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June 05, 07 12:02 AM (permalink)

For owners of Shure sm57 ...

Hi! I just got my first "serious" microphone - the sm57. I have a question: the very top of the microphone rotates -- it's not locked in place. Is it supposed to be like that? Thank you!
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    LixiSoft
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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... June 05, 07 12:06 AM (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: ericuf

    Hi! I just got my first "serious" microphone - the sm57. I have a question: the very top of the microphone rotates -- it's not locked in place. Is it supposed to be like that? Thank you!



    All of mine do..........

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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... June 05, 07 12:28 AM (permalink)
    Yeah, I had wondered the same thing. I guess they all do, mine does..
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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... June 05, 07 12:36 AM (permalink)
    ok thanks! ...
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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... June 05, 07 12:43 AM (permalink)
    you prolly got a fake from ebay... ahah
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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... June 05, 07 12:48 AM (permalink)
    The top is held in place by a spring clip that sits in a groove and has two little tabs to hold the cap on. To dissassemble, just set it up in the vicinity of a drummer with no stick control.
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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... June 05, 07 2:00 PM (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: ericuf

    Hi! I just got my first "serious" microphone - the sm57. I have a question: the very top of the microphone rotates -- it's not locked in place. Is it supposed to be like that? Thank you!


    Yes, that is normal.
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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... June 05, 07 2:38 PM (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: bpclark

    To dissassemble, just set it up in the vicinity of a drummer with no stick control.


    Funny, but soooooo true!

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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... June 05, 07 2:53 PM (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: bpclark

    The top is held in place by a spring clip that sits in a groove and has two little tabs to hold the cap on. To dissassemble, just set it up in the vicinity of a drummer with no stick control.



    LOL! Yes - the SM57's are great percussion instruments. I once miked an SM57 with another SM57 just to capture the sound of the plastic capsule being knocked off by my drummer.

    Seriously though - that is how they are made. Now that I think about it, seems odd that Shure never addressed this issue. I remember at one time someone sold a little metal clip that fit over the top of that thing to prevent it from popping off. This is probably one of the reasons I stopped using SM57s on drums.

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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... June 05, 07 2:54 PM (permalink)
    Aside from that darn plastic part, the mic is really durable.
    It seems most Shure mics are durable except for a single part. SM58 - the grill.

    I've never broken the plastic, but I've dented the grill.
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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... June 05, 07 3:07 PM (permalink)
    This is probably one of the reasons I stopped using SM57s on drums.


    Ok, stupid question alert...

    I've never taken mine off and haven't had it near any drummers, so I don't even know what exactly is exposed when it pops off...so, could you just leave it off?
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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... June 05, 07 3:09 PM (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: krizrox

    ORIGINAL: bpclark

    The top is held in place by a spring clip that sits in a groove and has two little tabs to hold the cap on. To dissassemble, just set it up in the vicinity of a drummer with no stick control.


    LOL! Yes - the SM57's are great percussion instruments. I once miked an SM57 with another SM57 just to capture the sound of the plastic capsule being knocked off by my drummer.

    .....


    LOL ! The SM57 works OK to mic the knocking off of the capsule of another one but fails to capture the full dynamics and detail of the event. I've found that an SM81 (even when placed over by the hi-hat) does a better job of captureing the full depth of the "performance" but may not sit as easily in the mix as your method.

    Ahhh... the SM57, best cowbell mic ever made.
    post edited by ohhey - June 05, 07 3:13 PM
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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... June 05, 07 8:36 PM (permalink)
    You could leave it off, but it leaves the tender part(mic diaphragm) exposed. The problem is that it can be a real bugger to get the top back on.

    ORIGINAL: ParanoiA

    This is probably one of the reasons I stopped using SM57s on drums.


    Ok, stupid question alert...

    I've never taken mine off and haven't had it near any drummers, so I don't even know what exactly is exposed when it pops off...so, could you just leave it off?

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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... June 05, 07 11:28 PM (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: bpclark

    You could leave it off, but it leaves the tender part(mic diaphragm) exposed. The problem is that it can be a real bugger to get the top back on.

    ORIGINAL: ParanoiA

    This is probably one of the reasons I stopped using SM57s on drums.


    Ok, stupid question alert...

    I've never taken mine off and haven't had it near any drummers, so I don't even know what exactly is exposed when it pops off...so, could you just leave it off?




    I don't know about that... the pickup pattern and even tone of a mic can be affected by removing the grill. The case and cap are often the most clever part of the design.
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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... June 06, 07 1:02 AM (permalink)
    you guys are funny

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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... June 06, 07 8:53 AM (permalink)


    I don't know about that... the pickup pattern and even tone of a mic can be affected by removing the grill. The case and cap are often the most clever part of the design.


    Really? Interesting. Not that I would have actually tried it, but it's good to know these things.
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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... June 06, 07 9:47 AM (permalink)
    Yeah - Frank's right. You can verify that info by looking at the specs on the SM57 and SM58. The only difference between the two mics is the grill. The bodies of the mics are exactly the same thing. And looking at the specs, the SM57 freq response is from 40Hz to 15kHz while the SM58 is 50Hz to 15kHz. Since the only difference between the two is the grill - that means the grill does make a difference.

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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... June 07, 07 6:40 PM (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Beagle

    Yeah - Frank's right. You can verify that info by looking at the specs on the SM57 and SM58. The only difference between the two mics is the grill. The bodies of the mics are exactly the same thing. And looking at the specs, the SM57 freq response is from 40Hz to 15kHz while the SM58 is 50Hz to 15kHz. Since the only difference between the two is the grill - that means the grill does make a difference.


    It does make a big difference, the grill on the 58's is thicker and has an internal
    foam rubber liner, there is a good 1/2 inch from the diaphram to the grill
    with the 57's the grill is thinner and just an 1/8th inch grom the diaphram.
    Which is why 57's diaphrams blow so much faster, but sound crisper.
    They are both excelent mics. I always liked singing through 57's.
    I used to take off the inner foam liners on the 58's for a better sound.
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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... June 30, 07 5:04 PM (permalink)
    just thought I would pass on this info. although they have very similar specs they actually do have different cartridges. but for the most part they are the same. but I will tell you I have owned them for years and they are different mics. also only buys these from a source you trust because there are a million fake ones. if you want a new one let me know I have six million of them and a few havent even been opened yet,
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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... June 30, 07 7:33 PM (permalink)
    Direct from the horses mouth:

    It is true the SM57 and SM58 microphones are based on the same cartridge design. The main difference between them is in the grille design. The SM58 was designed for vocal application and it uses a separate grille with a very effective pop filter. The SM57 was designed as an instrument microphone where smaller grille size is preferred. In this application the pop and wind are not usually a concern. The SM57 uses an integral resonator/grille assembly, where grille is actually a part of the cartridge. These two grille designs place the diaphragm of the microphones in a different acoustical environment. First of all, the distance from the top of the grille to the diaphragm is significantly shorter on the SM57 compared to that of the SM58. This allows for closer sound pickup with even more pronounced proximity effect. Secondly, a different resonator/grille assembly design of the SM57 is responsible for its slightly higher output above 5 kHz.

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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... July 01, 07 10:52 PM (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: ohhey


    Ahhh... the SM57, best cowbell mic ever made.


    You always need more cowbell in the mix!

    Funny story, did a show with Grand Funk a few years ago, they only gave us 8 channels for the entire band. They had used 4 mics on the cowbell alone

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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... July 03, 07 7:37 PM (permalink)
    congratulations.
    Its ironic that so many people spend so much on "more professional" mics.
    you will find 57's in pretty much every pro studio in the world.
    You wont find many CAD, MXL or Behringers though!
    the 57 and the 604 are pretty much always on my amp.

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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... July 04, 07 3:01 AM (permalink)
    I have an SM57 from 1980. The top twirls on that one too! Think of it as a design feature that can never break.

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    RE: For owners of Shure sm57 ... July 06, 07 5:36 PM (permalink)
    hhmmm

    not sure which of the horse's holes that came from but if you look at the tech specs for the mics they use two different cartridges. one using a 64 the other a 57 I think. if you go to the shure site you can look at the these specs. are these almost exactly the same. well yes are they EXACT same no my friend.

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