Zo



And yes a lot of guyz are sharing the same account ....and they mutualise their bought ( for most of them , they work together) ..so do you find bizarre a studio owner have 3 studios and 3 cards (3 engineers) , have only one account and 3 cards registered to only buy once the plugins ? this is totaly normal !! 

Well, it isn't a matter of how much sense it makes or normal it seems. 


Some manufacturers let you use their software on as many machines as you want.
Others allow you to install it on many but rely on your good faith to use it on only one at a time.
Others use iLock or similar so that you can only use it on one computer at a time.

As such there is no "normal" approach. It's at the seller's discretion.

I understand what you mean - if you paid 3 DSP cards, buying the software for each of them may seem a rip off. I probably wouldn't agree w/ the approach if I needed multiple set ups. But legality isn't a matter of what I agree w/.  So I'd look for another option.

Otherwise where do you draw the limit? Say I bought PC2A and you buy the next model. Would it be "normal" that we share the plug-ins since we both bought Sonar? 

Incidentally, I've read about a guy who ended up in court for something like that recently. He found people to share the expenses to buy a big sample library and then they illegally redistributed it among them. 

Apparently, the court didn't really see that as a sale where there would have been none.



EDIT - here's the article http://www.filmmusicmag.com/?p=9356

I hear you guyz ....you guyz talking to a guy that some dev gave some NFR ...and decided to pay anyway ...

Ok so take it like that : i understand some of the situation but do not caution them ....

if you guyz wants , i can erase the post...really no big deal for me ;)

seems to be the case ....

yorolpal


We're quoting lines out of movies for moral imperatives now? :-)

I'll quote lines out of movies (since art imitates life) quite often. They fall on deaf ears as well as my simple argument "Do the right thing".
 

Isn't "Do the Right Thing" a movie too?  Heck... my favorite admonitions come right out of my favorite movie, Dr. Strangelove..."I'm not saying we won't get our hair mussed" or "I am capable of being just as sorry as you" and "Mandrake, come over here and feed me boy, the Redcoats are coming".  Course I draw the line at stuff like "Love Story" and such.

I couldn't find the chart that listed how many instances of each plug in that could be run.  It's not a deal breaker to a certain extent because any improvement would be acceptable and more or less icing on the cake.

The attractive thing about the 710 is that it is more or less two pres in one.  I could go with a colored sound or a transparent sound.  The only thing I don't like is that it's a 2 space x 1/2 rack width unit and I will have to futz with where I place the unit.
 
 
EDIT: I was able to navigate to the instance chart from the UA page so I see what I can possibly run now and what I saw was more than acceptable IMHO.

Mod Bod




I couldn't find the chart that listed how many instances of each plug in that could be run.  It's not a deal breaker to a certain extent because any improvement would be acceptable and more or less icing on the cake.

The attractive thing about the 710 is that it is more or less two pres in one.  I could go with a colored sound or a transparent sound.  The only thing I don't like is that it's a 2 space x 1/2 rack width unit and I will have to futz with where I place the unit.
 
 
EDIT: I was able to navigate to the instance chart from the UA page so I see what I can possibly run now and what I saw was more than acceptable IMHO.

Sorry about the bad link to the Instance Page.  It was fine when I posted, but for some reason now it is a defective link.  So, I have struck it out.  Please go to UAD Support Center and there one can find the Instance Chart.


Yes, I agree, the Solo card will run a decent number of instances, and for me in my little basement studio, this is sufficient [for now].

UA is always doing these bundle type sales promotions. As with any company trying to increase sales, it is just a way to help move product. Last November, I took advantage of the "Buy a LA-610 MkII and get a FREE UAD-2 DUO". A year ago there was a "Buy a 6176 and get a FREE UAD-2 QUAD". Also, I think UA is hoping that once you get the card you may be inclined to buy a UAD plug-in or two. I believe once you register your card, UA will put a $50 plug-in coupon into your UA account to help you purchase your first plug-in. Anyway, I would never turn down a free UAD-2 card. All UAD cards have 64bit driver support so you can install them on a 64bit OS. ATM, the plug-ins are still 32bit, so you will need to use a 32 to 64 bit-bridge. Like others have already stated, the good news is UA has announced a free 64bit plug-in compatibility update (for all UAD-2 plug-ins) will be forthcoming in 2012. Cheers, Billy Buck

it's even more vicious cause some are buying the 710 just because of that offer ...they didn't even tried the preamp or have a educated buy (not talking about the op , but people i actually know !!)

I see that you are leaving me out of this statement but I'll comment on it anyway.
 
I'm seeing a lot of positive reviews for the 710 in general.  I always take this with a grain of salt because I always notice that people either rave about something because they own it (and who wants to let on that they bought a mediocre piece of gear) or rant negatively about it  because they bought it thinking it could fill some perceived void in their life or it was a miracle worker due to the positive comments they read in reviews.
 
I also know that some people are just stupid and can't figure things out or learn how to "work" a piece of equipment.  They might fail to see that a paricular piece of equipment does one job particularly well like a guy who gives a hammer a bad review because he can't loosen a bolt with it.  They will rant that the equipment is no good and a waste of their money.  (I love to find those people because I can buy good gear cheap.)
 
I've held off buying the 710 because I've been trying to find a used one.  Unfortunately, used 710s are going for too high a price based on the current street price.  I always try to find used gear at 50% street price at most.  If you factor the street price of the UAD-2 solo package then anything more that $400 is definitely not as attractive.  I guess it's possible that I could auction off the UAD-2 Solo on Ebay and use the money to purchase something else.

Mod Bod: Let us know how you like it........

Mod Bod


Awwww, screw it.  I pulled the trigger and got one on the way.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/710/

That's the spirit....

Anticipation is making me wait, making me wait...............  for some reason I keep thinking of the ketchup commercial and not really Carly Simon or song, just the slow ketchup bottle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoLoyg3JKRQ

Jonbouy

Philip


@Zo and the Op,

The Solo (like the Duo and Quad) is basically a huge iLok; the UAD software v

Actually it's a bit more than that it is a DSP co-processor and you really notice the benefit of that on a slower machine and no doubt in the plug-ins designed to work with it benefit as a result.

Having said that the need for dedicated processing is diminishing by the minute it seems with the more brute force CPU's available now and native algo's taking advantage of that, the point where it does become a huge dongle seems pretty close.

I'm planning on building a 64bit machine with the i7-2600k CPU and was wondering if it's worth upgrading to a UAD2 Solo? Besides the plugs that came with original UAD1e, the only "prized" plugins I have are the Neve 88RS channel strip, Dreamverb, Pultec Pro EQ, & the Precision Enhancer.
 
I do use the Neve, Pultec EQ + some of the others that came with it, but not as often since I've got Nomad's, T-Racks, Cakes Pro Channel etc...
 
Due to the cost of these UAD plugs/my older card, I've hesitated to buy anything. (I'm of course a hobbyist and don't "need" these for my livelyhood, but do like quality in my work. I'm a bit on the fence on this one....
 
   
  

Thanks Craig....these "enticing" things are my achilles heel......lol. I know once I/if I get the UAD2, I'm certainly going to want bigger and better/more expensive plugs......that's my dilemma. The $199 upgrading price (until June 30th) IS very enticing!! Decisions....desicions...

The UAD2 Solo comes with:  
"*The Analog Classics bundle includes the LA-2A Classic Audio Leveler, 1176LN & SE Limiting Amplifiers, Pultec EQP-1A Program Equalizer, RealVerb Pro Room Modeler, and CS-1 Channel Strip"

Mesh,
I traded in both of my UAD1 cards for a UAD2 Quad Flexi and I couldn't be happier. (Found one at the local Sam Ash that was actually cheaper than any of the online stores too.) Some people on various forums have been complaining about the UAD1 being phased out, but I think the trade-in deal they are offering is great. My old purchased plugs are still active and I used part of my voucher money to get the new 1176 pack. Trying hard to wait for a sale to spend the rest, but I started the demo on the Fatso, so I may not be able to wait much longer.
 
I had thought about phasing out UAD plugs all together because my system would occasionally only detect one of the UAD1 cards. (Seemed OK after I dug in and reseated the card, but I was still a little paranoid about it.) Getting rid of the old PCI cards also seemed to fix some other strange issues I was having with my PC and boot order of my hard drives.
 
I'm really excited for Mod Bod and looking forward to reading his impression of the preamp and the card as well.
 
(Edited to add paragraph breaks since Cakewalk still can't get forum software that works with FireFox... keep forgetting to open up IE for this one.)