From Sonar 8 to 2016?

Hi gentleman! 
 
First things first, i am no one famous etc ...i'm a guitar, bass, uke teacher in Atlantic Canada ...i have some real concerns about the new Sonar Series ...
 
My upgrade path ..Sonar 3 /4 / 8 / 8.5 / 2016 ....
 
i've been trying to use my latest for the past 3 months as my main DAW is Win 10. Sonar 8.5 won't even open files authored in 2016. Sonar 8 is normal except - the mouse on the faders in console view are  a disaster!? I've given the new Cake Bake a solid try ...i want things back to normal ....and i'd like to keep Win 10. They've made too many changes in this change  over from Roland to whoever owns it now! 
 
Opine please! I shall persvere ....i see brilliance in the new stuff ...but i feel i need a freaking university course in New Sonar to pull this off! 
 
I've been hung up on the stupidest stuff ....display clips!? a tiny icon on the left? WTF was wrong with "show layers"? 
 
You Changed the "copy" Command to cntl, alt, c .....FK that is idiocy ....get your **** together or i'll FKN go Audacity or revert to something worse like Pro Tools M Powered! Judas! Do not Fk with a good thing ...i just restored my buddies win XP PC and gave him my Sonar 3 .... i was blown away by how smooth it ran! Come on!? 
Thanks, SammyP 
 
 

sammyp
I shall persvere 

In my humble opinion, definitely a big fat Yes.
 
I had a big break away from music and I jumped from Sonar 6 to X1, and I have stuck with Sonar and kept up to date since.
 
As Colin says, there will be some pain, but, in the end, I think it is worth it, and moving to Win 10 is also, IMO, a positive step, despite all the issues with "privacy."
 
Spend some time in here, as questions, as silly as they may seem, and Peeps will get you up to speed.
 
cheers,
 
and good luck,
 
andy

Definitely stick with it and spend the time SammyP. I had the advantage of incremental changes, but the thought of going back to an older version and giving up all of the new features and stability terrifies me!

Your in a time warp bro. Its like driving a 1956 Buick and then buying a 2017 Corvette...then saying where's the handle to roll down the window.
 
Its not uncommon though and your not alone. A lot of people who make this jump say the same thing. Then after a few months of using the new tools realize how easy it is now. This forum and Documentation is your best friend.
Cheers.

I went from SONAR 8 to Platinum last summer, and I'm still figuring things out. A few things seemed easier in the old version, but that's probably because I was used to them the way they were. Lots of great new stuff, though.
 
Hang in there, you'll be OK.

I have to agree.  I simply LIKED sonar 5, and before.   While I use sonar platinum every day, I still don't LIKE it.  Often I HATE it. 

sammyp
 
You Changed the "copy" Command to cntl, alt, c  

 
That's news to me Sammy. But in retrospect, I typically copy clips with a control click drag.
 
 
Good luck - I wouldn't like going back to Sonar 8 again...

DrLumen
...and becan fryers and ... But, I think it is better.

That sums it up nicely. 

AFAIK, the only problem with the plug-in manager is backward compatibility of menu layouts. Is there anything else? There is a pretty easy workaround to maintain the old plug-in manager for menu layout editing. The thread you  created provided the implementation details although there is a tool available to avoid having to use regedit to maintain SONAR tools entries.

Thanks scook.
 

scook
AFAIK, the only problem with the plug-in manager is backward compatibility of menu layouts. Is there anything else? 

I don't think it's a matter of 'backward compatibility' of menu layouts, being that after a Splat install, you can't create new or revise layouts in 8.53. It's more like, Splat broke 8.53's plugin manager capabilities. (I would say that not being able to use Splat menu layouts in 8.53 would be understandable and lacking 'backward compatibility').
 

scook
There is a pretty easy workaround to maintain the old plug-in manager for menu layout editing. The thread you  created provided the implementation details although there is a tool available to avoid having to use regedit to maintain SONAR tools entries.

 
I looked thru my thread, if you are referring to this one:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Plugin-manager-not-working-in-853-after-Splat-install-m3579913.aspx
 
I didn't see anything that appeared "easy", at least to me. Are you referring to ralf's idea on page 2 ?
TBH, I have an aversion to editing the registry. And, I'm not sure I understood every detail of what he said.
 
What "tool" are you referring to?
 
Thanks scook
 
 

scook

timidi
I don't think it's a matter of 'backward compatibility' of menu layouts, being that after a Splat install, you can't create new or revise layouts in 8.53. It's more like, Splat broke 8.53's plugin manager capabilities. (I would say that not being able to use Splat menu layouts in 8.53 would be understandable and lacking 'backward compatibility').

This is precisely why I prefer not to to discuss the matter with you.

Well, that sure is interesting. 

I stuck with Sonar 7 for a few years and was quite happy with it. But there was one single feature of X2 that attracted me and made me want to upgrade. That was Screensets. The only thing that had annoyed me about working with that older version of Sonar was the need to keep opening, closing and re-opening Console View and PRV, with the need to re-congigure PRV each time. Screensets solved that problem.

After upgrading, the biggest stumbling block for me was the new menu structure. Features that I was already familiar with had been moved to different places and I didn't always know where to look.