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Guitarhacker
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 08:34:18
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that sure looks like fun.... I mean what's not to like about cannons and fully auto with airplanes as targets?
I love that! Yup... family fun time.
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 08:42:17
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that would be an expensive hobby!
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 09:42:35
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Ah yes, boys and their enormous weapons 
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 10:15:42
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SteveStrummerUK
Ah yes, boys and their enormous weapons
AKA Bapsi?
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paulo
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 12:21:23
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Yeah......... let's all teach children that destroying things with guns is fun. What could possibly go wrong ?
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 12:22:21
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Yeah......... let's all teach children that destroying things with guns is fun. What could possibly go wrong ?
Everyone (who does not own guns) thinks it. Paulosezit.
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 12:37:36
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paulo
Yeah......... let's all teach children that destroying things with guns is fun. What could possibly go wrong ?
Everyone (who does not own guns) thinks it.
Paulosezit.
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 12:44:25
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very stupid idea. Yeah what we need more in our crazy world is everybody shooting heavy guns around...
like we don't have enough shooting and killing at school and other places.
don't understand how come that can be fun for anybody???
how about going with your family for some educational trip or something?
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 12:45:34
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paulo
Yeah......... let's all teach children that destroying things with guns is fun. What could possibly go wrong ?
Everyone (who does not own guns) thinks it.
Paulosezit.
gush, what a stupid comment...
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Guitarhacker
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 12:49:37
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Everybody thinks guns are dangerous..... they are not. The person with the gun in their hands determines what the gun does. At sanctioned shoots like this one... and many other gun events...SAFETY is the #1 rule. Being the shooting enthusiast that I am, I know several range instructors who have stated that civilians are more aware of gun safety than the so called professionals in law enforcement. One told me point blank in a conversation in a gun shop that he never goes to a police qualification session without wearing his kevlar vest. At just about every range and event of any sort that is an officially sanctioned event, ANY infraction of any safety rule is cause enough to be thrown out. Unintentional discharge of a weapon is totally, 100% preventable and there are NO excuses. This story happened just the other day..... http://www.cbsnews.com/83...cidentally-discharged/ BTW.... the firearm was a revolver.... double action ...with a fairly firm trigger pull.... you had to really be a screw-up to fire that weapon "accidentally" but that law enforcement officer managed to do it supposedly while "unloading" the gun...... I'd bet that the female flight attendant would have been able to unload it safely..... wadda ya think?
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 13:12:22
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Guitarhacker
Everybody thinks guns are dangerous..... they are not. The person with the gun in their hands determines what the gun does.
this is would be only right if all people were sane - but they're not! so what you're saying is wrong. Guns're are dangerous, any idiot can pull the trigger for no reason shooting you or somebody from your family. I believe you'd change your opinion then.
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bapu
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 13:30:40
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Everybody thinks guns are dangerous..... they are not. The person with the gun in their hands determines what the gun does.
Herb, with all due respect; your second sentence, IMO, contradicts your first since you say "what the gun does". I'll agree that a gun in and of itself is not dangerous until some human chooses to pick it up (especially if it's loaded). Then it has the full potential to be dangerous as you yourself state and cited an example. Again, a gun is potentially dangerous as soon as a human chooses to use it. There is no sugar coating that as far as I am concerned. If a gun in human hands was not dangerous why would there need to be a Rule #1 of SAFETY at gun events? Feel free to call me ignorant if you wish.
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bapu
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 13:31:47
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Guitarhacker
Everybody thinks guns are dangerous..... they are not. I wonder if there is any data to support that claim. Not opinion, data. 
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Karyn
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 13:39:26
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Sorry guys, I'm with Herb on this one.
A gun is just a lump of metal. A teaspoon is just a lump of metal. (if you big enough) you can take someone's eye out and shove it up their ar$e much easier with a teaspoon.
Guns are not dangerous.
And please don't think I'm being flipant with the comparison, it is only people's actions (or in-actions) that are dangerous, not inanimate objects.
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jamesg1213
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 13:55:33
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Karyn
Sorry guys, I'm with Herb on this one.
A gun is just a lump of metal. A teaspoon is just a lump of metal. (if you big enough) you can take someone's eye out and shove it up their ar$e much easier with a teaspoon.
Guns are not dangerous.
And please don't think I'm being flipant with the comparison, it is only people's actions (or in-actions) that are dangerous, not inanimate objects.
A teaspoon is indeed a lump of metal. A gun is metal, but also a sophisticated mechanism designed to propel ammunition at high velocity...to damage or kill something. A spoon isn't.
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bapu
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 13:57:27
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Karyn
you can take someone's eye out and shove it up their ar$e much easier with a teaspoon.
Please. Do not give Daryl any more ideas than he already has.
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Karyn
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 14:34:45
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Karyn
Sorry guys, I'm with Herb on this one.
A gun is just a lump of metal. A teaspoon is just a lump of metal. (if you big enough) you can take someone's eye out and shove it up their ar$e much easier with a teaspoon.
Guns are not dangerous.
And please don't think I'm being flipant with the comparison, it is only people's actions (or in-actions) that are dangerous, not inanimate objects.
A teaspoon is indeed a lump of metal.
A gun is metal, but also a sophisticated mechanism designed to propel ammunition at high velocity...to damage or kill something. A spoon isn't.
The level of sophistication and intended use are irrelevent. A loaded gun sitting untouched on a table will do no harm to anyone untill someone picks it up. In itself it is not dangerous.
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 14:52:44
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 15:07:22
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 15:08:38
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Beags,
Depends, is it blues pianer?
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 15:22:36
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Karyn
The level of sophistication and intended use are irrelevent. A loaded gun sitting untouched on a table will do no harm to anyone untill someone picks it up. In itself it is not dangerous.
Nothing is dangerous until it's picked up and used, I agree. A gun however, is exponentially more dangerous than something which doesn't fire bullets. Like, a spoon.
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 16:00:06
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Karyn
Sorry guys, I'm with Herb on this one.
A gun is just a lump of metal. A teaspoon is just a lump of metal. (if you big enough) you can take someone's eye out and shove it up their ar$e much easier with a teaspoon.
Guns are not dangerous.
the is the most stupid statement I have ever seen. Anybody who says guns are not dangerous is insane and is lacking of any logical thinking. First of all guns were created to be dangerous, this was actually the only reason we created guns and s$it. Second of all guns are especially dangerous because they allow people to take many lives quickly. Nobody would be ever able to commit so easily mass murders with just a knife or spear. Because of guns we have tragedy like this in Norway. ok, I'm outta this stupid thread.
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Guitarhacker
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 16:13:11
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The perception that guns are in and of themselves dangerous is a myth that has been promoted by certain people and groups/agencies with an agenda.
When accidents happen with a gun, an honest review of the situation and the events leading up to that accident have shown that the accident was totally preventable. Someone did not follow the safety rules. Sure we have safety rules with guns. We also have safety rules concerning the handling of gasoline, cars, electricity, swimming pools, and so many other common ordinary things that are all based on common sense for handling and using those things.
1. Treat every gun as if it was loaded.
2. Keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction.
common sense.
In fact, it is not the gun, no matter how simple or sophisticated that weapon may be, that is dangerous. I have weapons around my house and person all the time which are loaded. None of them have ever discharged "by accident". A loaded and cocked weapon on a table or in a holster is not any more dangerous than any other inanimate object.
The mere fact that something can cause substantial harm does not make it dangerous. A steak knife, a can of gasoline, a box of matches, a shovel, a baseball bat, or a car, are all very useful inanimate objects which can also cause great harm if used improperly. And in the hands of a mentally deranged person, or simply a person who is mad and has little self control, any of those items can become just as deadly as a gun. The only danger arises when that object, no matter what it is, is in the hands of a person intent on using it in a manner that would make it dangerous.
Being at an event where they are shooting guns all day long might make you a bit uncomfortable, and I appreciate that and would not impose that on you..... but for me, and many others, we see no danger in being around guns and enjoying that sort of activity. Single shot, semi-auto, or even full auto..... Heck... I went shooting Saturday with a friend who rarely shoots, and we both had a great time..... punching holes in paper, busting bottles filled with water, and during the time we were engaged in this shooting, we both followed the safety rules to the letter, and had a great time.
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bapu
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 16:24:01
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First of all guns were created to be dangerous, this was actually the only reason we created guns
Well they did catch on for hunting too, but that is not dangerous (except to the animals.... and they don't count )
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 16:24:03
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 Guitarhacker, sorry but you've gone nuts completely and you arguments make no sense whatsoever... You are not able to discuss rationality the problem BTW, you just repeat in circle same silly statements which you heard in TV.
post edited by offnote - 2012/09/25 16:26:21
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bapu
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 16:26:56
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I heard the sun is not dangerous, except of course if you stare into it. According to Springsteen's mamma.
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paulo
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 16:57:36
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 Who sez people goin' round shootin' stuff for no reason ain't normal ????? You show me 'em an' I'll go kill 'em for ya !
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daryl1968
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Re:Fun for the whole family
2012/09/25 17:02:56
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please don't get me started on this one again.
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