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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/11/15 20:54:49 (permalink)
Or try the windows magnifier. It's an "accessibility" option which means it's for folks like me who can never keep ahead of their changing lens perscriptions.

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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/11/16 11:35:20 (permalink)
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Thanks Ed.


Any time John.
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/11/17 14:26:20 (permalink)
I keep finding features that I would like in Sonar. Today's winners are related to the timeline. I like the ability to fix the tape head (now time) and have the tracks scroll by. It really reinforces the tape deck model. The other thing I really like is when you grab the tape head and move it, a large now time pops up so you can move it precisely. All sorts of cool stuff coming out of this program.

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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/11/17 19:14:32 (permalink)
I've enlarged the size of everything in Mixbus 3 to maximum size and while portions are huge, the mixer portion still has microscopic controls.  I hate to have blown the money on something I can't use, but at this point my time is worth more than what I spent on it.  I'll just stick to mixing and mastering in Sonar Platinum where I can actually see what everything is. 

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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/11/17 19:41:35 (permalink)
I like Mixbus just fine in it's default settings, but hopefully they will finish the Harrison control surface. They have said they are going to try and keep it under $1000. That could be a very nice rig...and it should be very easy to see.

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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/11/17 21:07:48 (permalink)
I wouldn't worry about the Ardour heritage. If Sonar X1 had stopped at X1b I would have gone to another DAW. Thankfully most software improves with time.

There's for sure something spooky good going on with Mixbus.

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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/11/17 21:38:13 (permalink)
I wish they would release just a Harrison EQ module that would emulate the Mixbus 3 sound. 
I am happy with Sonar and Studio One for tracking and mixing but what you guys are saying about the sound has me very interested. 
With a VST EQ module, it would give us the best of both worlds?
post edited by Rimshot - 2015/11/17 21:49:11

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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/11/17 22:25:17 (permalink)
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I wish they would release just a Harrison EQ module that would emulate the Mixbus 3 sound. 
I am happy with Sonar and Studio One for tracking and mixing but what you guys are saying about the sound has me very interested. 
With a VST EQ module, it would give us the best of both worlds?



Your wish is granted...you just have to own a UAD card or interface...
http://www.uaudio.com/sto...zers/harrison-32c.html




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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/11/18 05:47:24 (permalink)
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I wouldn't worry about the Ardour heritage. If Sonar X1 had stopped at X1b I would have gone to another DAW. Thankfully most software improves with time.

There's for sure something spooky good going on with Mixbus.



That is comforting to read, (although I am still hesitant, I just fear everything going pear shaped after I install it, and then spending the next few hours banging my head on the desk "why did you do it, why . . )I have great respect for a lot of the folk here and the knowledge and experience you all have, even though I have drifted away from Sonar, this (Software and Deals) is still my favorite part of the web.
 
I'll take the dive soon enough, reading all the stuff people here say, and then someone up there said something about how it makes amp sims sound much better doesn't make it easy to ignore mixbus, perhaps after I deal with my latest fear, the new major Windows 10 update, I fear letting it install as well

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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/11/18 09:28:33 (permalink)
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I wish they would release just a Harrison EQ module that would emulate the Mixbus 3 sound. 
I am happy with Sonar and Studio One for tracking and mixing but what you guys are saying about the sound has me very interested. 
With a VST EQ module, it would give us the best of both worlds?



Your wish is granted...you just have to own a UAD card or interface...
http://www.uaudio.com/sto...zers/harrison-32c.html






Thanks for the info. Not easily affordable. MB3 appears to be the cheapest route.

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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/11/18 09:33:06 (permalink)
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/11/18 09:44:54 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2015/11/18 09:56:53
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I wish they would release just a Harrison EQ module that would emulate the Mixbus 3 sound. 
I am happy with Sonar and Studio One for tracking and mixing but what you guys are saying about the sound has me very interested. 
With a VST EQ module, it would give us the best of both worlds?



Your wish is granted...you just have to own a UAD card or interface...
http://www.uaudio.com/sto...zers/harrison-32c.html






Thanks for the info. Not easily affordable. MB3 appears to be the cheapest route.



You'd be hard pressed to find anything as good as Mixbus for the money...


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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/11/18 09:46:28 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2015/11/18 10:10:37
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I wish they would release just a Harrison EQ module that would emulate the Mixbus 3 sound. 
I am happy with Sonar and Studio One for tracking and mixing but what you guys are saying about the sound has me very interested. 
With a VST EQ module, it would give us the best of both worlds?



Your wish is granted...you just have to own a UAD card or interface...
http://www.uaudio.com/sto...zers/harrison-32c.html






Thanks for the info. Not easily affordable. MB3 appears to be the cheapest route.



You'd be hard pressed to find anything as good as Mixbus for the money...


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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/11/19 13:45:26 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2015/11/19 14:18:44
I have no interest in using plugs with mixbuss at this time. The built in EQ, comp, limiter are all very nice and I intend them to be part of the final processing. It seems that there is some magic in the distortion they add to get the console sound. I've got some Abbey Road stuff and other console emu's but they don't sound as rich as the Harrison.

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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/11/19 14:32:34 (permalink)
Is there any to use MB3 similar to VSL's VEPro5; routed directly out & back into Sonar for streaming, mixing audio in realtime or rendering?
 
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/11/19 15:03:04 (permalink)
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Is there any to use MB3 similar to VSL's VEPro5; routed directly out & back into Sonar for streaming, mixing audio in realtime or rendering?
 


I've read about Jack (separate install) where something like that can be done.
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/11/19 15:19:50 (permalink)
Thanks,
I found this, think I'll wait a while before trying-
"A simplified JACK  (which is not visible to other applications) is automatically installed when you install Mixbus.
If you would like to interconnect the audio of different applications into Mixbus, then you can download and install a system-wide version of JACK. 
This is not endorsed or supported by Harrison at this time."
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/12/06 22:18:56 (permalink)
I am blaming all of you for making me buy it. Its all your faults.  I didn't like Mixbus 2 but 3 seems a lot better and somewhat sophisticated. It does sound better. I was impressed by how well it sounds. I believe one can get the same sound from Sonar but with a lot more fuss.
 
One area that is a real problem is its VST support. I found a lot of my goto VSTs are unstable in Mixbus 3.  I don't want their plugins. Not yet at any rate.
 
With 3.1 coming soon with CS support I am going to use it more than I did version 2.   
 
Over all its a good DAW that needs a bit more development but its on the right track. 

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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/12/07 02:10:21 (permalink)
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I am blaming all of you for making me buy it. Its all your faults.  I didn't like Mixbus 2 but 3 seems a lot better and somewhat sophisticated. It does sound better. I was impressed by how well it sounds. I believe one can get the same sound from Sonar but with a lot more fuss.
 
One area that is a real problem is its VST support. I found a lot of my goto VSTs are unstable in Mixbus 3.  I don't want their plugins. Not yet at any rate.
 
With 3.1 coming soon with CS support I am going to use it more than I did version 2.   
 
Over all its a good DAW that needs a bit more development but its on the right track. 




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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/12/07 14:20:58 (permalink)
I hear what John's saying. Getting into Harrison plugs would be a slippery slope. I'm doing all the early signal processing in Sonar and using the Harrison console EQ, comp. limiter and so on for my final output. 

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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/12/07 14:58:11 (permalink)
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I am blaming all of you for making me buy it. Its all your faults.  I didn't like Mixbus 2 but 3 seems a lot better and somewhat sophisticated. It does sound better. I was impressed by how well it sounds. I believe one can get the same sound from Sonar but with a lot more fuss.
 
One area that is a real problem is its VST support. I found a lot of my goto VSTs are unstable in Mixbus 3.  I don't want their plugins. Not yet at any rate.
 
With 3.1 coming soon with CS support I am going to use it more than I did version 2.   
 
Over all its a good DAW that needs a bit more development but its on the right track. 


Which ones are you having trouble with? Most of mine work fine, but EZKeys won't work at all (unless they've fixed it). That is strange to me because EZD2 works fine. All of my Fab Filter, Valhalla, Klanghelm and TDR plugs work. Even some of the Cakewalk stuff works, like channel tools for example.

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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/12/07 15:23:35 (permalink)
Well I was using Nugen Visualizer 2 it worked until I tried to reposition it. I also hear on their forum Melda plugins wont work. I haven't tried them yet. I'm waiting for version 3.1 to come out. I believe things will be fixed with it.
 
I believe it is a very promising DAW that for now is a little unstable and not fully fleshed out. I should say I have used Nugen's stuff for many years and have never had a problem with their plugins.  Mixbus may also have a problem with VST 3. This is all 64 bit. 
 
Everyone please keep in mind that whatever I say about Mixbus 3 is based on a very limited knowledge of it and very preliminary observations. At this point I know just enough to be dangerous. Also I did not like Mixbus 2.  Mixbus 3 is a very different animal.  
post edited by John - 2015/12/07 15:52:08

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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/12/07 15:57:11 (permalink)
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I hear what John's saying. Getting into Harrison plugs would be a slippery slope. I'm doing all the early signal processing in Sonar and using the Harrison console EQ, comp. limiter and so on for my final output. 


I got every Harrison plug on sale (50% off) except the deesser. Just watch for the sales. 
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/12/07 16:05:54 (permalink)
FWIW, I do not plan to use Mixbus3 as a MIDI based DAW.
 
I expect to export from SONAR and mix in Harrison and master in Wavelab.
 
This may not always be my workflow, but for sure I do not ever expect to use VSTi technology in Mixbus 3.
 
 
 
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/12/07 16:13:56 (permalink)
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Well I was using Nugen Visualizer 2 it worked until I tried to reposition it. I also hear on their forum Melda plugins wont work. I haven't tried them yet. I'm waiting for version 3.1 to come out. I believe things will be fixed with it.
 
I believe it is a very promising DAW that for now is a little unstable and not fully fleshed out. I should say I have used Nugen's stuff for many years and have never had a problem with their plugins.  Mixbus may also have a problem with VST 3. This is all 64 bit. 
 
Everyone please keep in mind that whatever I say about Mixbus 3 is based on a very limited knowledge of it and very preliminary observations. At this point I know just enough to be dangerous. Also I did not like Mixbus 2.  Mixbus 3 is a very different animal.  


John are you on the latest interim release (2257)?
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/12/07 16:17:44 (permalink)
Yes Bapu I am. If you have any thoughts I am all ears!

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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/12/07 16:24:14 (permalink)
John,
 
No particular thoughts especially if you're on the latest interim.
 
I can say this, just like on this forum, the few times I have tried to replicate a VST error someone was getting I never ran into the problems they had. As always each person's setup may differ just slightly enough. 
 
As I said, I don't plan to use SoftSynths in MB3 (as of now) so I have absolutely no suggestions there.
 
I am off from the 24th through Jan 3 and so I hope to give all my 64bit plugs a thorough run in MB3 to see what falls out. Maybe by then 3.1 will be out (it's a bit overdue in my opinion, but as they say.... it's ready when it's ready).
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/12/07 16:39:45 (permalink)
The situation is not about VSTis (haven't tried those yet)but VSTs. Are you sure that will be enough time Bapu. I believe you have every Plugin known to mankind!  

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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/12/07 16:46:14 (permalink)
The few VSTs I've tried have not failed in Interim 2257. My current test project is 20 audio tracks and the single non-Harrison plug I'm using is the Relab LX480 verb.
 
As I said, I've tried to confirm reported bugs with a few VSTs but where others had failure I had success.
 
Ya, I may need a year or two to actually test all my VSTs (especially combinations).
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3 2015/12/07 17:40:15 (permalink)
Thanks Bapu. 

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