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Getting to know Mixbus3
This is one very interesting program. So far the learning curve is mondo steep and many things just seem to be convoluted. I actually had to ctrl-alt-del just to get out of the mixer view in full screen mode. IT's going to be a major pita to get comfortable with this one.
However, I imported a wav file and couldn't believe how much I liked the sound. The EQ carves frequencies, nothing subtle about it and the vocal track I was listening to just popped. Not bad pops, the good kind. It literally jumped forward and had unbelievable presence. It's going to be a steep learning curve but I think Mixbuss will replace my Tascam tape deck and my final processing stage.
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Richard Cranium
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
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I have been thinking about this, a couple of things put me off, one was that I believe it is based on Ardour, I messed around with Ardour years ago when it kicked off and I was having a look into Linux, didn't like it much, which was a familiar feeling for most things Linux, they just seemed to go the long way about doing things, things were just seemingly more difficult to do for no good reason, I realize Ardour would have progressed greatly from those days. Another thing that put me off was Mixbus's apparent buginess.
So your first paragraph made me think "phew, I'm not going there, that's settled" But then your 2nd paragraph basically negated the feeling I got from the first, so I am back to where I was :( The sound, that is the thing that is interesting, although I haven't heard it, everyone speaks about it, is it really that noticeable, that good ? I know the 'How good' part is somewhat subjective but . . .
I would like to give it a whirl, but I fear putting stuff I am not sure of or may have reservations about on any of my Music PC's, I like keeping them as clean as possible, no demos or stuff that isn't music related etc, but this has had my interest for a while, but I still see reports that it i still as bit unstable and buggy, so I hesitate.
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/05 17:16:34
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Yeah, Mixbus 3 is nice. It does now allow midi vsti's, but that is not its strength. Many around here use it for final mastering to get that Harrison sound. While most (not all) 3rd party vst effects will work with it, I find just using the eq's, compressors and tape saturation already built into Mixbus's channel strips is all that is needed to get an analog and warm tone. Many around here just export stems as wave files from Sonar, and import those stems into Mixbus for mastering. BTW, both T-Racks and Ozone now show up; so you can add them onto the Mixbus stereo (output) 2-bus to fine tune. Again, just running the native Harrison plugins gives a great analog character to the mix. I don't think I will use Mixbus for tracking, but for adding that Harrison analog "sound" to a project, it is great and well worth the money.
post edited by cecelius2 - 2015/11/05 18:37:45
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/05 17:16:35
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It takes some getting used to...for sure...
But, as RC said, it's the SOUND.
It is the most "Analogue" sounding piece of software I've used.
There is some "mojo" going on with Mixbus...and it's good Mojo...
I still haven't made the leap to 3 yet...as much as I've been chomping
at the bit to do so...because I eagerly awaited it's arrival....
Soon...
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/05 18:03:10
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hmmm, you guys aren't making it easy, I just have this uneasy feeling, probably because of it's Linux heritage, that I am going to install it and it's going to bring my systems crashing down, probably illogical I know, but that feeling is there. I guess I could just back up with Acronis and just take the plunge, but I'm a wuss lol.
And yes, that's how I would be wanting to use it, for the sound, not tracking or anything.
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/05 18:58:19
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Many use it as just their "Mastering" stage...
Others import their stems and Mix ....
All personal preference...but here is definitely a difference....
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/05 20:17:48
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Richard Cranium
I have been thinking about this, a couple of things put me off, one was that I believe it is based on Ardour, I messed around with Ardour years ago when it kicked off and I was having a look into Linux, didn't like it much, which was a familiar feeling for most things Linux, they just seemed to go the long way about doing things, things were just seemingly more difficult to do for no good reason, I realize Ardour would have progressed greatly from those days. Another thing that put me off was Mixbus's apparent buginess.
So your first paragraph made me think "phew, I'm not going there, that's settled" But then your 2nd paragraph basically negated the feeling I got from the first, so I am back to where I was :( The sound, that is the thing that is interesting, although I haven't heard it, everyone speaks about it, is it really that noticeable, that good ? I know the 'How good' part is somewhat subjective but . . .
I would like to give it a whirl, but I fear putting stuff I am not sure of or may have reservations about on any of my Music PC's, I like keeping them as clean as possible, no demos or stuff that isn't music related etc, but this has had my interest for a while, but I still see reports that it i still as bit unstable and buggy, so I hesitate.
Couldn't have said it better. Developer websites are bad as well.
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/05 20:53:50
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I'm a big fan of Mixbus 2.5 and 3.0. I think they sound slightly different, but they are both good.
After several updates...it's getting pretty stable, and I could easily track in it if I didn't have Sonar. For $79 you just can't go wrong here.
One thing you should all know about Mixbus 3... When it scans the plugins it creates an extension for it...so in the folder where your .dll files are, it's going to add this extension to every plugin you have. You may want to create a folder just for the plugins you want Mixbus to scan...or do like I'm doing and just get over it.
I'm planning on doing the final mix and master on my next project in Mixbus 3.
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/05 21:02:44
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clintmartin
I'm a big fan of Mixbus 2.5 and 3.0. I think they sound slightly different, but they are both good.
After several updates...it's getting pretty stable, and I could easily track in it if I didn't have Sonar. For $79 you just can't go wrong here.
One thing you should all know about Mixbus 3... When it scans the plugins it creates an extension for it...so in the folder where your .dll files are, it's going to add this extension to every plugin you have. You may want to create a folder just for the plugins you want Mixbus to scan...or do like I'm doing and just get over it.
I'm planning on doing the final mix and master on my next project in Mixbus 3.
So I am guessing that the 'extension' that gets added doesn't cause any issue with other programs ? I am already a little hesitant about making the jump, but I am very curious. I don't do to good with the ' just get over it' thing  and if you remove mixbus, does it restore things to the previous condition ?
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/05 21:14:58
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After I had finished any music project, the final stage was to perform a stereo mixdown to my tape machine. The tape became the final source material for the DAW to generate a final digital copy. The sound of a .wav file playing in mixbus sounds very much like it was bounced to tape. I don't know how else to explain it.
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/05 21:17:00
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No it doesn't cause any problems at all. If I remember correctly it's just an additional .frf file (that may not be the correct name) under the .dll file in your plugin folder. So if you have 20 T-Racks plugins your now going to have 20 .dll files and 20 .frf files. If you un-install Mixbus (you won't) I believe you have to manually delete these files.
This is some kind of identifier for Mixbus. I'm not sure why it needs it, but it does.
They also have a good forum and good support. I have installed it 4 or 5 times now without any issues. When they have an update...the installer removes the old version and installs the new version.
If you have anymore questions...I'll be glad to help if I can.
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/05 21:19:56
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Richard Cranium
clintmartin
I'm a big fan of Mixbus 2.5 and 3.0. I think they sound slightly different, but they are both good.
After several updates...it's getting pretty stable, and I could easily track in it if I didn't have Sonar. For $79 you just can't go wrong here.
One thing you should all know about Mixbus 3... When it scans the plugins it creates an extension for it...so in the folder where your .dll files are, it's going to add this extension to every plugin you have. You may want to create a folder just for the plugins you want Mixbus to scan...or do like I'm doing and just get over it.
I'm planning on doing the final mix and master on my next project in Mixbus 3.
So I am guessing that the 'extension' that gets added doesn't cause any issue with other programs ? I am already a little hesitant about making the jump, but I am very curious. I don't do to good with the 'just get over it' thing and if you remove mixbus, does it restore things to the previous condition ?
The extra "extension" has not caused any issues with other DAWs or plugins on my Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 machines. I do not know about it restoring that if you remove Mixbus, but I would doubt it. Again, I have had no issues with Sonar, Cubase or Studio One running on the same computer with Mixbus 2.5 or Mixbus 3.
post edited by cecelius2 - 2015/11/05 21:30:35
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/05 21:29:38
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clintmartin
No it doesn't cause any problems at all. If I remember correctly it's just an additional .frf file (that may not be the correct name) under the .dll file in your plugin folder. So if you have 20 T-Racks plugins your now going to have 20 .dll files and 20 .frf files. If you un-install Mixbus (you won't) I believe you have to manually delete these files.
This is some kind of identifier for Mixbus. I'm not sure why it needs it, but it does.
They also have a good forum and good support. I have installed it 4 or 5 times now without any issues. When they have an update...the installer removes the old version and installs the new version.
If you have anymore questions...I'll be glad to help if I can.
Ah, so it's 'additional' files, it doesn't actually modify the original, if I am understanding correctly ? If so that is much better
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/05 21:39:39
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/05 21:44:19
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Richard Cranium
clintmartin
No it doesn't cause any problems at all. If I remember correctly it's just an additional .frf file (that may not be the correct name) under the .dll file in your plugin folder. So if you have 20 T-Racks plugins your now going to have 20 .dll files and 20 .frf files. If you un-install Mixbus (you won't) I believe you have to manually delete these files.
This is some kind of identifier for Mixbus. I'm not sure why it needs it, but it does.
They also have a good forum and good support. I have installed it 4 or 5 times now without any issues. When they have an update...the installer removes the old version and installs the new version.
If you have anymore questions...I'll be glad to help if I can.
Ah, so it's 'additional' files, it doesn't actually modify the original, if I am understanding correctly ? If so that is much better
You are correct. It doesn't modify the original, and Bapu is correct...Mixbus 3 is the bomb!
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/06 03:06:16
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2015/11/06 15:01:33
Good Luck with Mixbus 3 John , It has a lot of character sonically . Mixbus 3 is Truly A Great Sounding DAW  Kenny PS , do me a favor my friend and don't tell anybody that Mixbus 3 in the right hands can make an ordinary run of the mill amp sim sound pretty darn good 
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/08 09:08:01
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Richard Cranium
clintmartin
No it doesn't cause any problems at all. If I remember correctly it's just an additional .frf file (that may not be the correct name) under the .dll file in your plugin folder. So if you have 20 T-Racks plugins your now going to have 20 .dll files and 20 .frf files. If you un-install Mixbus (you won't) I believe you have to manually delete these files.
This is some kind of identifier for Mixbus. I'm not sure why it needs it, but it does.
They also have a good forum and good support. I have installed it 4 or 5 times now without any issues. When they have an update...the installer removes the old version and installs the new version.
If you have anymore questions...I'll be glad to help if I can.
Ah, so it's 'additional' files, it doesn't actually modify the original, if I am understanding correctly ? If so that is much better
Did you ever try this out?
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/08 21:33:03
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It works great as a summing mixer if you've got a lot of stems or just copy your finished audio tracks over to Mixbus for mixing. There's no denying that it has a very smooth sound to it. I'm have to say also that, version 2 was very stable. Version 3 isn't quite there yet but another release or 2 should get it there.
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/09 01:15:08
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clintmartin
Did you ever try this out?
Not as yet, I was sitting there a couple of times just hovering over the buy button, but couldn't do it, then I mad the mistake of reading their forums, and it put me off a little, I started telling myself to wait until the next major release, I'll have another look on the weekend. I think it's the Linux heritage that is putting me off, I don't have fond memories of anything Linux.
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/09 14:26:52
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Richard Cranium
clintmartin
Did you ever try this out?
Not as yet, I was sitting there a couple of times just hovering over the buy button, but couldn't do it, then I mad the mistake of reading their forums, and it put me off a little, I started telling myself to wait until the next major release, I'll have another look on the weekend. I think it's the Linux heritage that is putting me off, I don't have fond memories of anything Linux.
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/09 15:04:37
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Shades of yesteryear... I remember using Lotus 1-2-3 V2, Wordperfect 4, and a host of DOS Database programs and whole a lot of command line DOS commands... I remember when Windows 3.0 came out and I could run Lotus 123 2.3 and Wordperfect 5 at the same time...it was party time on my 8086 IBM XT with 256 Kb of ram and a 20 Mb hard!!! (Don't laugh...that was like having an i7 16Gb of RAM and 3 TB today!)
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/09 15:59:41
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I like the sound of mixbus2 maybe a little better than ver 3. With that said, it's a bargain daw for the price of a plugin.
I found learning a few keyboard shortcuts for moving around the program, important.
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/11 09:27:58
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Loving Mixbus 2.5. I might have to look into version 3.
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/14 09:08:18
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I picked up Mixbus 3 recently after reading about it. I thought it would be nice for mastering. Unfortunately I have been unable to make the display large enough to read anything on it. I have it stretched across 2 22" monitors and everything still looks microscopic. The view options don't seem to help. I emailed Harrison and I guess I'll keep searching the manual to try to figure out how to make it usable for me. I guess I'm spoiled with how easy to view everything is in Sonar.
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/14 09:44:10
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You can change the font size in Mixbus.
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/14 15:26:48
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Thanks, I had to break out the reading glasses to be able to see the options well enough to change them. Now that I can see everything I just need to get time to figure out how to make use of it!
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/14 15:55:48
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I find the default font size a real pita. Didn't know it was variable so I'll have to look at it. Thanks.
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/15 09:58:02
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John, 
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
2015/11/15 10:00:18
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Ha ha ha, you can hardly read the pic. Just "save image as' to your hard drive.
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Re: Getting to know Mixbus3
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