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2017/09/13 20:51:55 (permalink)

Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul????

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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/13 20:55:05 (permalink)
The financing is $3 a month for 36 months.  Might as well get a few, ya? 
 
(If the quality of their $2,300 LP's was poor, it makes you wonder about one that costs $99, eh?)

 
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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/13 20:56:45 (permalink)
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The financing is $3 a month for 36 months.  Might as well get a few, ya? 
 
(If the quality of their $2,300 LP's was poor, it makes you wonder about one that costs $99, eh?)


we live in a millennials disposable society anyway roight?

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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/13 21:02:26 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tlw 2017/09/14 15:11:02
That guitar is a long way from being a Les Paul. The only things similar are the name and the outline. Still a great thing to get kids into guitars again. Dirt cheap yet functional.

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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/13 21:17:21 (permalink)
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That guitar is a long way from being a Les Paul. The only things similar are the name and the outline. Still a great thing to get kids into guitars again. Dirt cheap yet functional.




Not according to Gibson, I quote
 
The Epiphone Les Paul SL guitar delivers the look and feel of one of the world's most popular electric guitars, and it's also the most affordable Les Paul ever made. Comprised of a poplar body with solid hard maple neck and rosewood fretboard, the Les Paul SL is primed for rock and blues, and just like its namesake, it's amazingly versatile in a wide range of styles. The Epiphone single-coil pickups with ceramic magnets offer Master Volume and Master Tone controls for simplicity, with a three-way switch lending access to a wide range of sounds.
 
I am not arguing with you , but the ad copy is tending to say this is just like a Les Paul!!

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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/13 21:22:10 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Ham N Egz 2017/09/13 21:41:40
pfft... the only GOOD Gibson guitars are hand crafted by authentic Australian Aborigine slaves from the tusks of endangered Appalachian tapirs and the harvested tree forts of rain forest wood elves.
 
You might pay a little more but the evil makes them sound better.
 
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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/13 21:23:04 (permalink)
Gibson is even manufacturing this?  Lol..   likely Gibson is licensing the name to a foreign - Chinese/Korean/Pakistani company that is manufacturing this.
 
The current corporate structure of Gibson leaves a lot to be desired, to say the very least.

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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/13 21:33:50 (permalink)
Cakewalk has tech support.
 
Just throwing that out while we're talking about lies that Gibson is promoting. 

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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/13 21:42:44 (permalink)
today UPS delivered my Harley Benton Les Paul....it's about 175 usd new.
https://www.thomann.de/nl/harley_benton_sc_450plus_hb_vintage_series.htm?glp=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwruPNBRCKARIsAEYNXIgC0-8jLkbGjVo6DzF7HibvgSNV92sdSR2SZ7_7Zf91lBHkbfJc3JkaAgatEALw_wcB
iic it's made in the Epiphone factory, it has Wilkinson pups and harware.
From the tuners and knobs I could tell it's not a top guitar, and frets were a little rough.
The thing did sound killer though, I'd say it beats an Epiphone.
 
I'm gonna return it because the color of the paint is just awful, instead of a honeyburst it's a almost neon orangeburst....really looks bad imo.
But other than that it's not a crap guitar at all imo.
 
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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/13 21:53:29 (permalink)
Whar $99 SG's and V's?!
 
WHAR???!!!
 
/never much cared for the LP platform
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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/13 21:53:43 (permalink)
That Harley Benton looks just like the Hondo guitar I had as a kid (my first pseudo-guitar).  So glad when I dumped that POS for a real '76 Les Paul...

 
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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/13 22:01:54 (permalink)
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today UPS delivered my Harley Benton Les Paul....it's about 175 usd new.
https://www.thomann.de/nl/harley_benton_sc_450plus_hb_vintage_series.htm?glp=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwruPNBRCKARIsAEYNXIgC0-8jLkbGjVo6DzF7HibvgSNV92sdSR2SZ7_7Zf91lBHkbfJc3JkaAgatEALw_wcB
iic it's made in the Epiphone factory, it has Wilkinson pups and harware.
From the tuners and knobs I could tell it's not a top guitar, and frets were a little rough.
The thing did sound killer though, I'd say it beats an Epiphone.
 
I'm gonna return it because the color of the paint is just awful, instead of a honeyburst it's a almost neon orangeburst....really looks bad imo.
But other than that it's not a crap guitar at all imo.
 




I've got an Ibanez ART LP copy (not one of the rare good ones from the 70/80's... sadly this is the post 2000 release). It's not bad but the machine heads are AZZ. Thing refuses to stay in tune. I have a bunch of Grover (or sumthin') machine heads I raided from a smashed acoustic I found in the garbage years ago I've been meaning to install but the machine heads on both have those little stabilizing pegs sticking out of them (that insert into the headstock) but they are in different positions.
 
If I want to install the garbage score machine heads I'll have to drill out new holes in the headstock to accommodate them. I really should get around to that.
 
There a lots of things I really should get around to though (like mopping my floor, taking a shower, changing my underwear, etc) and my Pacifica has been serving me well so...
 
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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/13 22:05:55 (permalink)
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That Harley Benton looks just like the Hondo guitar I had as a kid (my first pseudo-guitar).  So glad when I dumped that POS for a real '76 Les Paul...




lolololol...
 
My jammin' buddy when I was teen had a Hondo (Explorer copy IIRC).
 
It was the WORST!!!
 
I think the body was made out of particle board and had the crappiest bolt on neck I think I've ever had the displeasure of playing on.
 
Just soooo bad.
 
edit: oh... and it sounded like an old man trying to take a crap.
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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/13 22:34:56 (permalink)
hey Beeps, usually if a guitar doesn't stay in tune it's NOT the tuners.
have you tried cleani?ng the nut in the carves where the strings sit ?
many luthiers advise to put a little graphite (you can use a simple pencil) so the strings don't get stuck.
you can get great tones out of an Ibanez LP, as with many copies.
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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/13 22:38:07 (permalink)
It's an Epiphone.
 
Single coils are wrong on an LP of any make.  Unless they're P90s, of course.

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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/13 22:48:53 (permalink)
It's Les of a Paul than you might think?!
 
 
or
 
 
Pre April ad?
 
 
or
 
 
Finally! Gibson comes down to earth with real world pricing strategy.
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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/13 22:51:03 (permalink)
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It's an Epiphone.
 
Single coils are wrong on an LP of any make.  Unless they're P90s, of course.


to my ears the humbucker on the neck sounded better in split coil mode.
personally rarely hear a nice neck pickup on LP's.
but I haven't heard a humbucker sound good on Fender yet, not saying there aren't any.
I have a Squier with a humbucker that would do great for metal and drop tuning though.
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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/13 22:54:42 (permalink)
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Gibson is even manufacturing this?  Lol..   likely Gibson is licensing the name to a foreign - Chinese/Korean/Pakistani company that is manufacturing this.
 
The current corporate structure of Gibson leaves a lot to be desired, to say the very least.



Been doing that for years now. Where do you think all the "high quality" cheap knock-offs come from? Same factory - different door.
 
 
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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/13 23:02:07 (permalink)
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hey Beeps, usually if a guitar doesn't stay in tune it's NOT the tuners.
have you tried cleani?ng the nut in the carves where the strings sit ?
many luthiers advise to put a little graphite (you can use a simple pencil) so the strings don't get stuck.
you can get great tones out of an Ibanez LP, as with many copies.




Naw, it's the tuners, dood. They are loose and floppy and generally El Garbage-o.
 
hmm... now that I think about it though I might see if I can pop the buggers open and see if I can tighten them up a bit.
 
hmm...
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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/13 23:14:35 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2017/09/14 00:24:12
Saw a bunch of excellent condition used Traditional and Classic Gibson LP's up at GC today at incredible used prices. I wish I had some funds stashed away, I would have walked out with one of them. Maybe if I quit piddling it away on plug ins for a couple of months, it would be within reach.

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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/14 06:04:23 (permalink)
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That Harley Benton looks just like the Hondo guitar I had as a kid (my first pseudo-guitar).  So glad when I dumped that POS for a real '76 Les Paul...




lolololol...
 
My jammin' buddy when I was teen had a Hondo (Explorer copy IIRC).
 
It was the WORST!!!
 
I think the body was made out of particle board and had the crappiest bolt on neck I think I've ever had the displeasure of playing on.
 
Just soooo bad.
 
edit: oh... and it sounded like an old man trying to take a crap.


 
I had a Hondo as well... A Hondo II 'SD Curlee', whatever that was supposed to mean. Nasty guitar. Upgraded to a Gibson Sonex, which I still have, but never play.

 
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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/14 13:04:01 (permalink)
What a piece of junk.  I wouldn't pay $99 for that, unless I was buying it for a kid who i expected to throw it away in 3 months...

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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/14 13:37:30 (permalink)
At least get the one with the humbuckers:
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ENSVEBVCH
 
Its $50.00 more...Yes, it too is probably a piece of crap but at least it will sound like a Les Paul & not a Stratocaster...
 
 

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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/14 13:48:23 (permalink)
That's not a Les Paul - just about everything looks wrong - horrid thing!
I have a number of Les Paul's ranging from a Custom to a Studio as that's what I mainly play - love all my Les Paul's!!
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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/14 14:50:20 (permalink)
Hi,
 
Aren't these the cardboard guitars that are made in Mexico?
 
They don't even come with a drink!

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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/14 14:54:16 (permalink)
guessing it would be a starter guitar for young teenage girls, from the looks of it.
sure is not a top guitar or a real les paul, but for a girly starter guitar not bad imo.
sounds somewhat reasonable too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seICRkGNyUM
 
 
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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/14 15:10:00 (permalink)
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guessing it would be a starter guitar for young teenage girls, from the looks of it.
sure is not a top guitar or a real les paul, but for a girly starter guitar not bad imo.
sounds somewhat reasonable too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seICRkGNyUM
 



When I decided I wanted to get the equivalent of my Gibson EB-0 back, the only option I had was to get me an EB-0 or EB-3 by Epiphone. I got me an EB-3 (still have it) and it has no feel whatsoever, and does not have the great action and spunk that the original EB-0 by Gibson did. It pretty much helped me put the bass to sleep and not play a whole lot.
 
I miss dearly the original EB-0 I had, and if I ever get some extra money, I will get me one ... a real one, instead of a fake, Mexican cheap crapper that does not sound good and can not be made to sound good.
 
It might be good for a starter kit, and such, but in the end, it will also turn off the kids, because they can not make it sound better and more attractive to one's ear ... it's like saying that you have to have the chops to make a shi!!y guitar sound good, and in general that is not the case, and not likely to happen, and this is where learning, and teaching has a serious distance that is losing kids from learning music even more and better. 
 
I can see some kids in my own neighborhood playing and trying to sound good, and playing some fair to better stuff, but when you get up close, you know the difference right away ... it's not the kids or the chops ... it's the cheapness of the guitars and the amps that are the difference ... the quality and fidelity are lost. The better equipment helps you clean up details and get better, and you would not know that until you try it!
 
As they say ... you get what you pay for ... but many will never get that far to know that part ... you can't get the paying gig on crap equipment in general!

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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/14 15:33:50 (permalink)
If a guitar isn't a mahogany body with a set mahogany neck on the correct scale length it isn't the same thing as a Gibson Les Paul. The maple top is optional, the LP Jrs and Specials are good guitars and sound very similar to the original Les Paul Mark 2 Jrs and Specials (soon renamed the SG)

As for Gibson's pricing policy, that got out of hand a long time ago when it was decided that Gibson="luxury brand with resulting price premium". Fender US have gone down a similar road. A US-built 60s reissue Telecaster is not £1,000 better than a Mexican 60s reissue. Especially if you spend a little on the Mexican one and drop in a better nut if it needs it and Fender US pickups.

Both companies model ranges are increasingly bizarre as well. Want a new Firebird with the distinctive pickups they originally had? Nope, it's high-output ceramic buckers, overwound P90s or nothing. A modern-style US-built Tele without the noiseless pickups and with a steel bridge plate? Sorry... Gibson and Fender have dozens of different models of pretty much the same thing and almost none that are the same as the guitar you bought a few years or a couple of decades ago. I guess there must be a market reason for that - collectors perhaps at the most expensive end of the ranges - but how many models of the Les Paul does the world really need and does the range have to change at least once a year?

And don't get me started on high-priced custom-shop "relics"....

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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/14 18:07:15 (permalink)
I don't play but I'm tempted to pick one up just for grins.
 
I also find it a bit humorous that a case costs more than the guitar.
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Re: Gibson going bankrupt but NOW a $99 Les Paul???? 2017/09/14 19:20:56 (permalink)
BobF
It's an Epiphone.
 
Single coils are wrong on an LP of any make.  Unless they're P90s, of course.




Yes Bob , P 90's Rock .
 
Even on an low budget Epiphone 
 
https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/20138-bottom-feeder-my-81-les-paul-special
 
 
FWIW ,  I'm actually interested in the guitar that this thread was started over ...I love playing around with budget guitars ...
 
 
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