Aloha

Turns out a user could always print out the notation in cakewalk.
I took a look at my users guide from cakewalk pro 3.0 and sure enough the info is there on how to do.

I bet there are many, many things I could do with the software but DON'T know how, or why I would want to...........

I'm guessing that the pool of information is very deep and one should just jump in, but, I've been floundering around in this pool for some time and my arms are getting tired.  I got really angry when I heard a new release was on its way.....more reading - more software to learn - but I got over it.  Watch the videos and you will too.  Still, I wish the path was more clearly marked or there was some kind of GPS for navigating; a CPS perhaps or is it SPS or X1PS.

I love indexes and paper manuals! 
Why?  Because then I can open the page and read it over and over and over until it makes sense and/or penetrates my very considerable barriers.  (thick skull) 
Then one only needs the forum for companionship and reassurance and the occasional finger point to the place to find the desired info.  Probably costs a lot for printing for Roland but I am willing to print it on my own paper if they will provide the manual.   Did I miss the location of the downloadable manual?
And please don't direct me to the marketing pamphlet (User's Guide) that came with the program DVDs.  Why do corporations let marketing departments write operators manuals?  Wouldn't a tech writer who uses and understands the software be a better choice?  Marketing just wants to sell and they will spew large amounts of booshwah to do it.  Many tech writers merely revisit the marketing spew and try to pass that off as useful.  Considering the economy I think there may be more than a few tech writers available.  Hire some good ones.  Or task someone(s) from within Cake to put the thing together --- call it the  "INDEX" or "CAKE BIBLE" with table of contents,  glossary and index.  Make it downloadable, printable and revisable.  Probably make Anderton and Garrigus mad but hey.  If Cakewalk and Roland would handle this part of the problem then those guys, Craig and Scott,  could concentrate on how to do the higher level, more elaborate things that expert users want to do? 

I already bought it.  Now I want to use it.  Stop selling me.  Please. 

Mahalo

Aloha

Tomas,
To reply to some of your earlier messages, I think if you keep an eye on some of the posts from the "regular" members, you'll see that many are playing their parts all the way through the song (driving a softsynth with a MIDI keyboard or controller) and then touching them up (as needed) with either the PRV or the event viewer. I doubt many would use the "staff view" (as you note) because it's difficult--if not impossible--to enter certain types of MIDI-specific data there. The PRV or event viewer are much better suited to this. (The event viewer used to be my favorite, but I'm getting quicker at the PRV for working with things other than drum parts now, too.)

I think we're saying basically the same thing though, and I think you'll see that many people here are not just looping a phrase or two a few times and making a "song" out of it--not that there's anything wrong with that. I think many are playing the song with a MIDI controller driving a softsynth. It's all MIDI data until they "bounce" the softsynth and convert that to audio. Then they mix that.

If you're having a problem converting your old Cakewak files to SONAR files, you really should post a question about that. I haven't seen that issue in the four years I've helped out here, but it could be something simple. If it is,  you can fix it quickly and easily and just open your Cakewalk files in SONAR with no problem. I've never had an issue opening my older Cakewalk 3.0 files in SONAR 4 or 6--at least, not that I can remember.

And yes, a printed manual would be great! Sadly, most companies are getting away from this now, to cut costs. Dimension has a good printed manual, but SONAR's is nowhere to be found. And the on-line "Help" appears to cover all the versions of SONAR, regardless of which one you have--so it's not necessarily much "help".

Steve

You guys try the bass plug in Sonar X1 yet...SI Bass guitar? I think it's pretty killer. It doesn't have multi samples, but it appears they at least sampled the entire fret-board. It also slides! :)

Yeah, in my opinion, nothing beats a real bass and you can get a really good one used. Plus it's a lot more fun to mess around with then creating midi bass in my opinion. :)

-Danny