Goodbye Sonar - hello.......anything that works

Sorry you are so frustrated.

If you are still here:

1.  What OS and is it patch current?
2.  What audio interface are you using?
3.  For your audio interface, what Sample Rate and ASIO Buffer Size are specified
4.  For your audio interface, what driver version are you using?
5.  In Sonar, what driver mode is specified in Preferences?
6.  In Sonar, what Sample Rate is specified?
7.  In Sonar, what is the Total Round trip Latency showing as?

These issues sound like things that can be resolved with examination and adjustment to various settings, and possibly driver version and operating system maintenance.

Folks here in the forum can help you work through getting things set correctly, so before you truly go - why not give us a shot at helping you to get things working.

Bob Bone

I'm truly sorry to hear about your problems with X2.
 
As Bob has said, these issues should be fixable, so PLEASE come back with more info so that we might be able to help, before the moronic crowds descend upon this thread.
 
 

Sounds like a buffer rate issue, which could potentially be an easy fix.  Give us some information, and we can help you out.  Also, have you downloaded the latest updates for Sonar x2?

First of all, Sonar X2 is not the reason a Professional Studio is down for 7 days.

Second, the OP is not here looking for help.

If the studio DAW is not working, I can guarantee the studio will not be down for 1 day, let alone 7 days.

A major system problem (which would include hardware failure) is resolved in 30 minutes or less in most circumstances.

Sitemester

Any suggestions ? I mean GOOD suggestions that works day and night without agony...?

Most all of them do except Sonar ... it takes a lot of tweaking to get it to run somewhat stable. And when you do get it to run, you'll get carpal tunnel syndrome from keeping your left hand in a constant state of Ctrl-S.

I would say Reaper would be your best bet at this point. You can use it in evaluation mode without any restrictions until you decide if it's going to work for you or not. It doesn't come with a lot of the doo-dads and foo-fra's that Sonar does, but if you have a lot of 3rd party stuff, you'll be fine.

I'm not saying this to get under anyone's skin, but did you see the guys specs? He should have been able to just install Sonar, fire it up, and take off running. I have a 1st gen i5 Quad Core with 4GB ram and I can do that.

The only thing I can suggest Sitemaster is check your RAM, and make sure nothing is over clocked in your BIOS. When I first built my system, the motherboard came defaulted to overclock the RAM and it gave me all kinds of problems. I never use that Corsair XPS RAM. It's made for overclocking and it's junk. I once got 6 bad sticks of it in a row. I ended up going with the exact part number of RAM that was in my Mobo owners manual, and never had another problem with memory. It ended up being Kingston RAM and IIRC it was $9 bucks for 2GB ... and it was the same speed that the $90 Corsair was ... it just didn't have a pretty heat sink on it.

So

They only say, "Goodbye to Sonar," and whenever they do, they always have, "two posts."


??

What is wrong with these people?


Edit =  I sold my Ableton Live license.   I really, really did.  I did so because:  Abe's upgrade fees are exorbitant, for what you get; I really do not need Abe, I've got SONAR!!  and Renoise...   

Sonar = The software I have because I need, "a daw...."  Renoise is a tracker, and Sonar rounds out my studio.

Regardless:  When I sold Abe Live, I did not post a, "goodbye thread," on the Ableton Forums. 

And I had hundreds of posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Daw is not the problem, It's the person using it that's the problem.

John


Sonar does not need a lot of tweaking. I have or had run almost all DAWs at one time or another. At least those the run on a PC. I can state accurately that Sonar through the years has been at least as stable to all the others and most of the time more stable. X2a is very stable here.

Bub is unhappy with the new Sonar as well as having all sorts of problems with it. I have, and so have others, tried to help him but to no avail.  None the less he has come into any thread that is a negative one about X1 or X2. Its his style now. He offers no help or a reason for a problem all he does is bash CW and X1 and X2. Its becoming tiresome.  

Some one else will need to post this answer to Bub because he has blocked me.

But if some one is this unhappy with a product it seems to me that the person would find another product that they like and be unhappy there.

In other words its time to give it up and move on Bub. 

 
+ many many many, John.
 
Bub is not alone in this.  Mcq and a few others need to wake up and move on.
 
It would make them, and us, much more content.
 
I know I keep saying this, but some dullards never listen - "If you can't hold an adult attitude in front of something, then walk away."
 
Being child-like is not a bad thing, being childish is.  Bub can now put his fingers in his ears and go "Wah wah wah" and block me.  This is to be expected.
 
I miss his old avatar, it so suited him..

Guitarpima


Why bother? He only has 2 posts so he's probably from gearsluts.

Look at his name. He's probably from gearsluts.

as pointed out, a studio down for 7 days?

Hyperbole, or a frustrated noob?
 
Just because he sounds like he's from gearsluts, doesn't mean we need to act like we are, does it?  Not straight away, surely?  Maybe we should all move there.  My original posts were about benefit of the doubt, innocent 'til proven guilty.  Stupid idea, I'm of to gs..

jb101

kevo


First of all, Sonar X2 is not the reason a Professional Studio is down for 7 days.

Second, the OP is not here looking for help.

If the studio DAW is not working, I can guarantee the studio will not be down for 1 day, let alone 7 days.

A major system problem (which would include hardware failure) is resolved in 30 minutes or less in most circumstances.

#1 - I agree, it is how Sonar has been set up, or hardware, driver issues.

#2 - I don't know the OP, so I can't comment, but I've learnt to give people the benefit of the doubt first. If I can help him enjoy and make a living with Sonar like I, and many others do, then it's worth a try before I ridicule him.

#3 - I am not commenting on the OP's choice of using a relatively new version of a DAW in a Pro studio, without contingency plans. Would I? -No. But I have made a few daft decisions in my life, and am grateful for the people who have bailed me out, rather than poured scorn on me for them.

#4 - I wish that that were true. You are a very lucky man if that is your experience.

Now, this OP may just be a noob venting frustration, or someone with genuine troubles. I'd like to help them, whichever.

Now, they could be a troll. He's been here since 2009, so I'll give him a chance, before I treat him like a t%@!.

Just my tuppence worth..

Kool!
 
I am so glad you took time to address me personally since you started out by calling me a moron. Just a little suggestion, try reading many of your own posts. You seem to have no trouble calling people some term of endearment such as moron, idiot and the like. I can pull them up for you if you like...
 
I haven't treated anyone here as a troll. The OP wanted something that just worked without having to fiddle with it. I gave him an example just such a thing.
 
I actually read threads before posting unlike certain peeps.
 
If you had taken the time to read the initial post, there is no drawing any conclusions because the OP stated very clearly he was not here for help. Read his first post including his system specs.
 
Regardless of whether it is Sonar or some other software that the OP is using is irrelevant. I could care less what DAW he chooses to use. The software is not the reason his studio is down and not making money.
 
He can vent all he wants, I can understand frustration and needing to get it out. Virtually everyone on the forum has vented at one time or another including myself.
 
I at no time called to OP anything nor made any accusations against him.  You on the otherhand said the OP may be a Troll, a noob.
What I did call him on, was claiming his software was the reason for his studio being down.
 
I stated what I know to be fact and not dumb luck.
It is not luck that keeps a studio running, nor is it luck that makes a system stable.
 
Furthermore, if the OP ends up wanting help, I'd be happy to assist.
 
It is ironic that you have called me names, insinuated I have said things I did not, have assumed I was here to attack the OP, and yet, you are the one who has done the very things you have accused.
 
I think you better read your #2 again. Read it out loud and carefully.
 
BTW, because this is a text message, you have no way of knowing if I'm pissed, laughing my butt off, or serious as heck.
 
You seem to be selective of who you do #2 on. <- Yep pun intended.
 
peace!
 

kevo

jb101

kevo


First of all, Sonar X2 is not the reason a Professional Studio is down for 7 days.

Second, the OP is not here looking for help.

If the studio DAW is not working, I can guarantee the studio will not be down for 1 day, let alone 7 days.

A major system problem (which would include hardware failure) is resolved in 30 minutes or less in most circumstances.

#1 - I agree, it is how Sonar has been set up, or hardware, driver issues.

#2 - I don't know the OP, so I can't comment, but I've learnt to give people the benefit of the doubt first. If I can help him enjoy and make a living with Sonar like I, and many others do, then it's worth a try before I ridicule him.

#3 - I am not commenting on the OP's choice of using a relatively new version of a DAW in a Pro studio, without contingency plans. Would I? -No. But I have made a few daft decisions in my life, and am grateful for the people who have bailed me out, rather than poured scorn on me for them.

#4 - I wish that that were true. You are a very lucky man if that is your experience.

Now, this OP may just be a noob venting frustration, or someone with genuine troubles. I'd like to help them, whichever.

Now, they could be a troll. He's been here since 2009, so I'll give him a chance, before I treat him like a t%@!.

Just my tuppence worth..

Kool!
 
I am so glad you took time to address me personally since you started out by calling me a moron. Just a little suggestion, try reading many of your own posts. You seem to have no trouble calling people some term of endearment such as moron, idiot and the like. I can pull them up for you if you like...
 
I haven't treated anyone here as a troll. The OP wanted something that just worked without having to fiddle with it. I gave him an example just such a thing.
 
I actually read threads before posting unlike certain peeps.
 
If you had taken the time to read the initial post, there is no drawing any conclusions because the OP stated very clearly he was not here for help. Read his first post including his system specs.
 
Regardless of whether it is Sonar or some other software that the OP is using is irrelevant. I could care less what DAW he chooses to use. The software is not the reason his studio is down and not making money.
 
He can vent all he wants, I can understand frustration and needing to get it out. Virtually everyone on the forum has vented at one time or another including myself.
 
I at no time called to OP anything nor made any accusations against him.  You on the otherhand said the OP may be a Troll, a noob.
What I did call him on, was claiming his software was the reason for his studio being down.
 
I stated what I know to be fact and not dumb luck.
It is not luck that keeps a studio running, nor is it luck that makes a system stable.
 
Furthermore, if the OP ends up wanting help, I'd be happy to assist.
 
It is ironic that you have called me names, insinuated I have said things I did not, have assumed I was here to attack the OP, and yet, you are the one who has done the very things you have accused.
 
I think you better read your #2 again. Read it out loud and carefully.
 
BTW, because this is a text message, you have no way of knowing if I'm pissed, laughing my butt off, or serious as heck.
 
You seem to be selective of who you do #2 on. <- Yep pun intended.
 
peace!
 

Going back to the beginning of the thread, your picture of a tape recorder showed your willingness to help?  How? 
 
I am sorry if I misinterpreted your honest offer of succor.
 
If you read the initial thread TITLE again, slowly and carefully, you would see that it could be construed as a genuine cry for help.
 
I read the thread titles as well as the posts..
 
I'm glad you are willing to help the OP.  Perhaps you could post a picture of a four track reel to reel, too.  Or maybe a screenshot of Ableton..
 
I never said you had called the OP names.  Nor did I call him names.  I was merely pointing out worst case scenarios, and saying it was worth giving him the benefit of the doubt, even if these things were true.  I'm sorry if you didn't follow that.  I will try to be more clear next time
 
As for you last point - it's "Of whom you do #2"  Object, not subject.
 
Happy music making.

JB if you want a laugh go to the BFD 2 thread and read my response to Danny at the end. At least I hope its funny.  

Believe me sometimes things don't go as well as we wish. But there is always another day and a new start. 

Backwoods you do know you now owe me a new keyboard for it is ruined thanks to you. 

<sigh>

John,

I am not upset with jb.

Nor do I have anything that I need to apologize for.
You got gist of what was communicated as well as most others who read the thread.

I had no attitude when I began in this thread, and I still do not have one.
I cannot help that a forum member decided to make a personal attack.

jp is obviously upset so I won't respond any further as things would just deteriorate further.

Back on topic <whatever it was>

Was it nike shoes? I forget!