SF_Green
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Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
Anybody else notice the message in the Start screen that as of 2017.07 Sonar will no longer install on Vista. Is that the first time the installer won't work when support is dropped? Usually it's just {fill in the OS} will no longer be supported, isn't it?
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subtlearts
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 10:10:46
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Other than my father, are there more than 6 people in the world still running Vista? What are the chances any of them are Sonar users who simply refuse to update to an OS that isn't dead in the water, and wasn't kind of a turkey to begin with?
But in answer to your question, I have no idea, you may be right.
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SF_Green
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 10:19:00
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subtlearts
Other than my father, are there more than 6 people in the world still running Vista? What are the chances any of them are Sonar users who simply refuse to update to an OS that isn't dead in the water, and wasn't kind of a turkey to begin with?
But in answer to your question, I have no idea, you may be right.
LOL!  And I agree with the turkey assessment. I do seem to recall a few people on here that still run Vista...
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 11:57:55
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My Model "T" Ford won't start...
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DeeringAmps
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 13:42:38
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I love my "Model A"!
Hope this doesn't become an issue with Win 7 for several more years...
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 13:56:31
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DeeringAmps
I love my "Model A"!
Hope this doesn't become an issue with Win 7 for several more years...
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You'll love '10 - upgrade and see how she goes.
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 14:12:58
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☄ Helpfulby rtucker55 2017/06/28 19:04:32
With Window 7 the writing is on the wall - it's probably a matter of when. I hope it is a little ways off...
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chuckebaby
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 14:23:19
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Still running Cakewalk 5.0 by Twelve Tone Systems on Windows 95. With my state of the art system. runs great 
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Cactus Music
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 14:25:49
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I work in a heath care facility which is part of a huge network. Bet we have thousands of computers and all running W7 pro. They never did use vista. But the IT guys told me we will be running W7 for a long time yet , mostly because it's solid and supports all our equipment. They say W10 would be a train wreck for networking. W10 panders to consumers not business and networking.
I will keep W7 on 2 of my laptops until they stop working. This one I'm typing on came with Vista and it was the worst OS I'd ever used.
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DeeringAmps
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 14:35:10
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"You'll love '10 - upgrade and see how she goes"
Not gonna happen anytime soon, results with the Tascam FW1884 have been "sketchy" at best.
Bear in mind I still play guitars that contain Brazilian Rosewood and amps that require electron valves.
I'm old...
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FLZapped
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 14:49:21
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I have a laptop with Vista on it.
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 15:16:49
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There was info in the September 2016 eZine about which operating systems accounted for the most session counts. At that time Windows Vista (32 bit) represented 0.0001% of the total session counts, and Windows Vista (64 bit) was even less.
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THambrecht
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 15:57:44
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2017/06/27 20:32:00
An Adler typewriter from the 50's is still better than Vista.
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 17:39:52
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I liked VIsta when it was current. I wouldn't go back to it though. Windows 10 is a far better OS in every way that matters and some that don't.
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Anderton
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 17:46:46
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If you did ALL the updates to Vista, it essentially became Windows 7 (although it took hours and hours to do all the updating). However, it still lacked a few key elements that I think affect the ability to run SONAR 100%.
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Glyn Barnes
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 17:59:19
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I am still using Vista 64 on my general purpose PC (which used to be my DAW) back in the day it was big step up from XP because I could use 12GB of RAM.
I have WIN10 on my DAW but I am happy using Vista on the old PC.
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abacab
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 19:14:25
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I avoided Vista. Stayed on XP, until jumping to Win 7 at XP end-of-life. Developers cannot be expected to support end-of-life systems forever, so that is always going to make it necessary to step up if you want to run current applications. Or you could just run Sonar 8.5 forever ... 
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jpetersen
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 20:06:25
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I remember having to make exceptions for Vista in the project I worked on.
Additional work didn't balance the (tiny) demand from Vista users.
We eventually didn't support it at all.
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bapu
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 20:29:02
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subtlearts
Other than my father, are there more than 6 people in the world still running Vista?
My father-in-law is one of them. He wouldn't know SONAR from SONOR from Schooner.
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bapu
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 20:31:04
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Anderton
There was info in the September 2016 eZine about which operating systems accounted for the most session counts. At that time Windows Vista (32 bit) represented 0.0001% of the total session counts, and Windows Vista (64 bit) was even less.
So John has not upgraded yet?
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 20:36:59
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abacab
I avoided Vista. Stayed on XP, until jumping to Win 7 at XP end-of-life.
Same here. Then I did the 10 thing. In fact I just went from XP to Win 10 Home ($119) on my 2008 Inspiron 9400 laptop. Upgraded the memory from 2GB to 4GB ($22). This will be a travelling Mixbus 32C machine (where I will do essentially audio only fiddly-faddle).
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 20:43:40
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Vista was a huge change from XP. It needed the right hardware to run well. I built my machine to run Vista and it did run it well. I also did keep it updated. I skipped Windows 7 because I didn't see much difference when it came out. The same machine is running Win 10 very well so I have no complaints.
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chuckebaby
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 21:30:50
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I wasn't a big fan of Vista but it was a big change from XP. It looked a lot more professional than XP did and once a few updates came out, Vista ran very nice. I was a bigger fan of Win 7 but I respect what Vista was. it was the parent of Windows 7 which behind the scenes Microsoft was building a great OS (one of the best in my opinion) which was Win 7.
I use Windows 8.1 right now in my Work DAW. but have Windows 10 installed on my laptop.
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Keith Albright [Cakewalk]
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 21:43:49
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 22:39:33
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LJB
DeeringAmps
I love my "Model A"!
Hope this doesn't become an issue with Win 7 for several more years...
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 Breaking something every update usually.
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SF_Green
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 23:37:01
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Last 3 places I've worked contracting have been on Win7 with no plans to upgrade to 10 anytime in the foreseeable future. Think we're good on 7 for a while. I would bet support for 8 goes away before 7.
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/27 23:50:13
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SF_Green
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/28 00:24:38
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promidi
SF_Green
I would bet support for 8 goes away before 7.
According to Microsoft Windows 7 support ends on January 14, 2020, whereas Windows 8 support ends on January 10, 2023, so I don't think Sonar support for 8 goes away before 7
Source:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet
Thanks for the info. Good to know the schedule. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if the Win 7 date didn't get pushed back like XP did. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
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Cactus Music
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Re: Goodbye Vista with 2017.07
2017/06/28 02:54:32
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I still have Xp on my little Asus Netbook which is now my lyric display for live gigs. I also use it when travelling for e mail and internet stuff. I figure if it gets a virus it only takes a small effort to re do it. It won't run on W7 being so pathetic at 1.5 Gz. I put an SSD drive in it and it is super fast to boot and run. Once your in Chrome you can't really feel any difference in browsing speed. Chrome nags me that it can't guarantee my safety. But for all it's worth, no matter the warnings, it's been at least 2 years and XP still works fine and I've yet to be attacked by monsters. It's all fear mongering as far as I can tell.And one day it even did an update??.
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