micklamm 
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Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
After 8 months of fiddling around trying to get Sonar X1 to work I've had enough. I have tried another DAW and find it so much more user friendly and above all more stable than Sonar X1. I have been having recent problems with freezing and crashing and the only advice I get from Cakewalk is turn off your Norton, disconnect from the internet, make changes to the registry and if that fails (or when) reinstall Sonar. I didn't buy Sonar so that I could spend time fixing the damn thing. I bought it so I could make music. I'm not going to divulge the program I have gone to as when others have done that they get accused of representing other products. I don't. I just want to record my music and to do that I need a program that works. Not one that I need to keep fixing. Adios Sonar and thanks for nothing.
Mick
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 02:00:29
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here you are...no wonder big studios are not running sonar....
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 02:17:43
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Some are, and some are running other software. Blanket statements are never productive. The gentleman is running a IMac, as you are running a Macbook pro, and both are running boocamp. No wonder you have some issues. Heck if you want to run Macs, go buy Mac software. If Macs are so freakin great, why keep buying PC software and running under a emulation program Sure it is possible, but not 100% ! I have a basic Dual core PC with a simple 2 gig of ram, and i have had nothing but success with this. No fiddling around, nothing I loaded and installed, and started recording. I am no IT tech just a musician with a PC. This forum is filled with people using the software successfully. Sure there are a few with issues. But for every bad post there are tons of good ones. Besides those with no issues have very little to talk about, so they are busy working. So all you see is the gripes at times. Once again either get on line with support, tell us what the problem is, or go buy some Mac software there are several out there.Reaper for Mac, Cubase, and Logic to name a few. Go have fun, and stop the pain for yourself. A few years back i was using a program called N-track studio, it was decent, had a lot of features, but was buggy on my system, so I quit using it, and bought Cakewalk MC 3 I was able to open and record that day.
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 02:35:46
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As far as I'm aware Cakewalk no longer support SONAR running on Bootcamp as recent versions have proven to be unstable.
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 02:47:33
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iMac. Audio interface - VS-100, Win 7 Via Bootcamp, 4Gb Ram if i had a mac i'd be busy burning the wheels in Logic or GarageBand.. you were told in advance that issues could arise with Windows programs on macs..try pointing the finger at Bootcamp..C ya..
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 03:13:17
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Robomusic
Some are, and some are running other software. Blanket statements are never productive. The gentleman is running a IMac, as you are running a Macbook pro, and both are running boocamp. No wonder you have some issues. Heck if you want to run Macs, go buy Mac software. If Macs are so freakin great, why keep buying PC software and running under a emulation program
Sure it is possible, but not 100% ! I have a basic Dual core PC with a simple 2 gig of ram, and i have had nothing but success with this. No fiddling around, nothing I loaded and installed, and started recording. I am no IT tech just a musician with a PC. This forum is filled with people using the software successfully. Sure there are a few with issues. But for every bad post there are tons of good ones. Besides those with no issues have very little to talk about, so they are busy working. So all you see is the gripes at times.
Once again either get on line with support, tell us what the problem is, or go buy some Mac software there are several out there.Reaper for Mac, Cubase, and Logic to name a few. Go have fun, and stop the pain for yourself. A few years back i was using a program called N-track studio, it was decent, had a lot of features, but was buggy on my system, so I quit using it, and bought Cakewalk MC 3 I was able to open and record that day.
Hi I used Sonar X1 on a PC before I bought the iMac and had plenty of problems too. Rather than throwing Sonar out straight away I thought I would give it a go using Bootcamp. I was unaware that there were known problems with Bootcamp. So I didn't buy the PC software to run on the freaking Mac. I have gone and bought Mac software now and as with everything else on the iMac it does what it's supposed to do. A few issues?? Every time I look at this forum there are truck loads of people trying to get help just to get Sonar to do what it's supposed to do. I've been online heaps trying to get problems sorted out and I've contacted the tech heads at Cakewalk and every time I get suggestions that involve re-installing or tweaking or deleting or disconnecting. It's a joke. Now back to recording... which is what I wanted to do in the first place. Mick
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 03:14:02
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if i had a mac i'd be busy burning the wheels in Logic or GarageBand.. you were told in advance that issues could arise with Windows programs on macs..try pointing the finger at Bootcamp..C ya..
Hi Told in advance by whom?? Mick
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 04:08:38
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here you are...no wonder big studios are not running sonar it doesnt matter..folks are shocked everyday by how many Reason, FLstudio, and Reaper files that get imported and mixed in something else. just this year i have heard stuff done in FL .. that made me say Wow! "that was done in FL"..
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 04:36:58
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Told in advance by whom?? Hi Mick the Bootcamp issue has been on the net for many years, and discussed on this forum many times. Com' on man! you knew it was a risk...Mick i hope everything works out for you..GarageBand is free and a helluva program.
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 04:40:26
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Hi Mick,i'm sorry to hear your problems,but it's common with many others forum mates.Always, before to buy a software i have read the hardware compatibility and specifics,always. For me Sonar X1 is the best daw in stability and flexibility that i have worked with.I have done two remixes for my client.First in Pro Tools and the second in X1.My client has preferred the Sonar X1 version couse seemed more dynamic and natural.The projects were identical. 64 bit FP vs 48 fixed point maybe? Well,with audio 48 tracks,22 midi tracks,32 instance of various plugs and 6 busses ,no drop out no glitches,all perfect. It's just my experience. Good Luck!! Roby my spec for X1: Enermax silent 700w,Zalman cpu fan,Intel Quad ,8 gig Corsair ram,Asus P5B Deluxe,Windows 7 64 bit,Focusrite Saffire Pro 26i\o,Liquid Mix,Edirol PCR M50,Sonar X1 c Pro www.myspace.com\grooveinmind
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 05:05:02
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If you use a MAC you use LOGIC PRO not SONAR...end of discussion..
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 05:09:26
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Told in advance by whom??
Hi Mick
the Bootcamp issue has been on the net for many years, and discussed on this forum many times. Com' on man! you knew it was a risk...Mick i hope everything works out for you..GarageBand is free and a helluva program.
Not all of us have been using DAWs for years or exchanging information about them over the internet for years. Where does Cakewalk warn people that using Bootcamp is problematic. I am not an IT person so saying that I should just know about it is wrong. I had a look at Garageband and went straight to Logic Express. It's straight forward and simple enough for someone who just wants to record some music and put it on a CD for family and friends. All the best. Mick
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 05:09:57
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Hi Mick,i'm sorry to hear your problems,but it's common with many others forum mates.Always, before to buy a software i have read the hardware compatibility and specifics,always. For me Sonar X1 is the best daw in stability and flexibility that i have worked with.I have done two remixes for my client.First in Pro Tools and the second in X1.My client has preferred the Sonar X1 version couse seemed more dynamic and natural.The projects were identical. 64 bit FP vs 48 fixed point maybe? Well,with audio 48 tracks,22 midi tracks,32 instance of various plugs and 6 busses ,no drop out no glitches,all perfect. It's just my experience. Good Luck!! Roby my spec for X1: Enermax silent 700w,Zalman cpu fan,Intel Quad ,8 gig Corsair ram,Asus P5B Deluxe,Windows 7 64 bit,Focusrite Saffire Pro 26i\o,Liquid Mix,Edirol PCR M50,Sonar X1 c Pro www.myspace.com\grooveinmind
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 05:10:48
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If you use a MAC you use LOGIC PRO not SONAR...end of discussion..
Thats what I am doing. Though I am starting with Logic Express and if I need more I will move up to Logic Pro.' Mick
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 06:40:00
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See ya Mick. Hope it works out for you. In fairness to Cake in light of the tone of the thread title, the title should say "Farewell from a Mac platform user". As an aside also, if you are running something like Norton on a dedicated DAW, it indicates potential for other issues in how you are running things. But this is only a general observation and I'm sure you know how to get the best from your computer for it's given application/purpose. Anyway, hope it goes ok for you and you ever go to a PC platform, we hope to see you again because I 'believe' Sonar is still the best option for PC's. Cheers!
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 06:41:08
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Ah...the great Apple vs PC arguments. How about this..if on a Mac just get yourself Reason 6 and have at it. Then maybe the idea of getting on a forum to kvetch about this issue would not have been an issue. Issuing issues over issues.... 
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 07:06:50
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aleef
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if i had a mac i'd be busy burning the wheels in Logic or GarageBand.. you were told in advance that issues could arise with Windows programs on macs..try pointing the finger at Bootcamp..C ya..
Hi
Told in advance by whom??
Mick
Oh but Cakewalk DID tell you in advance, on the X1 support page that clearly stated the only supported OS's are.... "Windows XP Service Pack 3 (32-bit)/Vista Service Pack 2 (32- or 64-bit)/Windows 7 (32- or 64-bit)*" do you see "Mac OS running Bootcamp"?, well gee i guess its not supported, and if its not supported you tweak around at your own risk SONAR rocks here, and IMO the fewer whiny dumbasses that use it, and then go on to make half-assed comments on it, the better, so ya... take off man... Cya... bye bye
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 07:22:51
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from micklamm.....
"...... I have been having recent problems with freezing and crashing and the only advice I get from Cakewalk is turn off your Norton, disconnect from the internet, make changes to the registry and if that fails (or when) reinstall Sonar ......"
gee, "the ONLY advise?!?!", you would have thought Cakewalk would have also said something about NOT using an unsupported OS/configuration
did you even mention to Cakewalk support that you were using a Mac and Bootcamp, and if you did what was their advise to you?, and if you didnt mention it, well why not?
im sorry, maybe its the crappy weather, or the fact i havent had any coffee yet, but you come off like a half-baked whine-ass
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 07:59:12
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@Tweakberry:
Don't need those kinds of gratuitous insults either.
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 08:00:44
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Yes I did mention to Cakewalk that I am using a Mac and Bootcamp. If you bothered to read my earlier posts you'd realise that I was using a PC before I switched to the Mac. I had trouble using a PC as do many of the people on this forum who try to work in Sonar. I started this thread to simply say that I am fed up with having problems with Sonar as are many others. Your reference to me being a 'whiny dumbass' and a 'half-baked whine-ass' is made through the anonymity of the internet and reeks of cowardice. It is people like you who spoil what is essentially a very helpful forum in many ways. Some on here tried to help me sort out the issues I had with Sonar and I thank them.
Mick
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 09:05:13
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Robomusic
Some are, and some are running other software. Blanket statements are never productive. The gentleman is running a IMac, as you are running a Macbook pro, and both are running boocamp. No wonder you have some issues. Heck if you want to run Macs, go buy Mac software. If Macs are so freakin great, why keep buying PC software and running under a emulation program
again, I'm not running Sonar on my Macbook Pro but on Sony VAIO which is PC laptop last time I checked....
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 09:12:54
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Freddie H
If you use a MAC you use LOGIC PRO not SONAR...end of discussion..
Thats what I am doing. Though I am starting with Logic Express and if I need more I will move up to Logic Pro.'
Mick
OK. So goodbye already... Jeez...
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 09:31:40
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I must say I've had some trouble leaving some places, especially pubs after a drink or three, but it's never taken me over 6 hours................
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 09:37:00
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I must say I've had some trouble leaving some places, especially pubs after a drink or three, but it's never taken me over 6 hours................
You're not trying hard enough then mate 
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 09:55:40
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Freddie H
If you use a MAC you use LOGIC PRO not SONAR...end of discussion..
Thats what I am doing. Though I am starting with Logic Express and if I need more I will move up to Logic Pro.'
Mick
Great that it working out for you. Logic is very good program. Good choice.
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 10:39:10
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There's a lot of misinformation on this thread. Let's try to clear it up. I don't know if Cakewalk no longer _supports_ Sonar running under Windows on a Mac, but it works just fine. I do it every day. Both RME and Lynx will provide support for their audio interfaces when running under Windows on a Mac. MOTU will _not_ offer support. Sonar runs exactly the same in Windows irrespective of the computer hardware--barring of course processor and motherboard features and other such differences--whether the machine was built by apple or dell. The main issue with Macs is that you can't tweak the bios. But I've never had to, all the Macs I've run Sonar on (5 different ones, as I recall) have performed at least as well as their "PC" hardware equivalents.
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 10:51:17
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Goog bye to you too, Micklamm.. And I wish you a goog day..
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 11:34:08
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cowardice, not until you see me run, rude and unproductive... hmmm maybe i work in systems support, and after all last week dealing with half-baked users using half-baked procedures making half-baked assumptions who then blame the 'half-baked' system about thier problems im a **** still i guess i should have drank more last night hey sorry if i was insulting, but the supported OS list is Cakewalks writeoff right up front, and if you step outside oh well good luck man hope it works more power to you, but dont **** about someones work, and livelyhood, unless you know for sure what you are talking about, you havent proven anything about SONAR
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 11:48:27
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Tweakberry
you havent proven anything about SONAR
you have just proven something else instead...
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Re:Googbye Sonar - Enough is enough
2011/08/28 15:45:34
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Robomusic
Blanket statements are never productive.
Surely you can see the irony in this statement.
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