This is indeed a solid release!

outland144k

kevinwal

outland144k
Hi Guys:
 
The March update is not showing up in Command Center (I'm guessing that it's out from the positive comments here). Ideas?
 
Thanks for all your work!
 
Dan
 
BTW- What's it called?

In CCC, right click on Sonar, select "Rollback" and you'll see the early release entry in there. Intuitive, huh? :)

 
Really. I'm not sure why I didn't think of it. 
 
Thanks to all who answered. Right now, the only thing that shows up is "Early Access". I'll be doing that (I figure "anything I can do to help", you know?). 
 
Can I make a suggestion to the bakers? If you're going to implement "Early Access", it might help to get a relatively detailed profile of the musicians opting to help you piece together the data. It may help to evaluate if the way an individual uses Sonar and the way they perceive and/or ideally desire to use Sonar match up. Maybe you've done this already (I haven't had a chance to check as EA is still DLing) or maybe this is just beyond you concerns. This is offered in the spirit of FWIW.
 
Anyhow, thanks again.
 
BTW- assuming that the Early Access DL is not the new update, is there a name for the update available? It does help to identify the updates beyond all the numbers (yes, I do agree, however, that 2016.03 is pretty straight-forward if we're going over to that).
 
Dan

Yep, they're going forward with the year and month release number scheme now. 

ok

bitman
Me too.
 
Can't wait to try this.
I can't AND won't cut to a click.
 
To be able to quantize the midi drums to a free form performance tempo map is what I've needed for as long as I have used a DAW. I could never get my head around Audio Snap. The thought of teaching it the song (transients) just never sat well with me. While I am stuck at work and can't try it yet, leave it to the wizards at Celemony.
 

+1 This is so going to become my number one feature. Can't wait to try. Thanks Bakers. This release alone will be worth my years payment.

I've been dreaming of a feature like this ever since I began recording (with a $23 mini reel-to-reel from the hardware store that came with a little gold clip-on lapel mic and a capstan to change speed).
 
Now, here it is. I can record without a click and have my measures line up tempo-wise for subsequent tracks, all without getting out of and getting back into Sonar or doing any other unmusical gymnastics.
 
Noel, do I win some sort of prize for Outstanding Patience? The Cakewalk Cup? :)
 
Thanks for this fantastic feature!

Is the early access edition supposed to run in "demo mode"? Mine came up this way....

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]

bitman
Now if it will just stop crashing creating a Fx Region for melodyne.
I plan to update everything tonight, Sonar, Melodyne essential and see how it goes. :-)

Is this in the early access release or in Newburyport? There are a bunch of ARA fixes in the new build as well.
Let me know ASAP if the crash occurs in the latest update. You can download it via the rollback menu in command center.

I'll let you know Noel.
 
There was a sad thread going for awhile about Melodyne 4 crashing Sonar, I'm sure you saw it.
In my case it was the M update. I never put Newberryport on the DAW as it didn't look like the
Melo 4 crash 0xC0000005 upon region fx create in my case, was addressed.
 
It in encouraging to hear there was some work in ARA. 
 

Anderton
Oh, and by the way...don't overlook the Analog Session synth just because the tempo thing is cool. The synth is a lot of fun.

That's actually what I'm looking forward to. The online demos of the full version are incredible, so hopefully most of that is included.
 

Jim Kalinowski

tenfoot

Jim Kalinowski

tenfoot
 
Found 2 bug fixes so far - render bit rate change now works as advertised, and a docked piano roll note/controller alignment bug gone as well.

One bug that is not yet fixed (or at least I saw it happen again last night) is the timeline in docked PRV does not always line up with the events in the PRV until you scroll the PRV.  I was hoping that would get fixed as part of the controller/note alignment problem.

I haven't seen that problem in the new version yet Jim. Have you found a consistent way to reproduce it?

This works every time:
 
1. Create a MIDI track and on a measure other than the first (let's use the 2nd measure) add some MIDI notes.
2. In one screenset, dock the PRV and have the PRV display the MIDI track from step 1.
3. Go to another screenset that has the track view in it and set the now time in the time ruler to be the measure where you added the MIDI notes in step 1.
4. Go back to the screenset you used in step 2.
 
What I see every time is the vertical line for the start/now/current time in the PRV is all the way to the left.  The ruler at the top of the PRV shows that measure 2 is the measure all the way to the left.  That part is fine.  However, my MIDI notes are on measure 3...they are not lined up with the current time.  Once I start clicking on the right scroll arrow at the bottom of the PRV, the now time and ruler start moving to the right and eventually line up with and stay synched with the MIDI notes.  
 
This bug has been there for a while.  It was talked about once or twice on the forums.  I'll submit a bug report (hey, aren't we supposed to be getting a new feedback portal? :) )

Got it. You are absolutely right Jim. It turns out we are talking about the same bug and it is not fixed - I have just stumbled upon a work around for the velocity/note allignment issue and presumed it had been fixed! If you already have PRV open in the dock displaying another track, then use a keyboard shortcut do display a different track in PRV, the window refreshes correctly and all notes/velocities are in their correct place on the timeline and in allignment.  If PRV is not currently displayed and you open a track using the PRV shortcut, the PRV window that opens in the dock still has the notes/veloicities out of allignment (velocities are correct on the timeline, notes are not) until you touch the scroll slider. So the workaround is to leave a PRV tab open in the multidock, then whenever you open tracks they will display correctly. 
 
I guess switching between screenshots involves opening new PRV windows, hence the timeline/allignment issue shows up.
 
I reported this problem a while back and it has a number. Given that it's a small annoyance it could be a while I guess:(
 
Thanks Jim - I will edit my initial post to reflect our new discoveries:)
 
 

scook
It should also be in the SONAR rollback menu in the Command Center.

For some reason, I can't find a rollback menu in CC.
 

Anderton

ampfixer
Thanks Craig, it looks like I need to do some homework and explore Melodyne upgrades. 90% of the stuff I record is with people that can't, or won't use a click.

In case I wasn't clear...drag and drop conform to tempo does work with Melodyne Essential, both version 2 and 4. It's just that Editor and Studio offer more options.

As it relates to Editor 2 + Editor 4 and this new conform to tempo feature, are there any real advantages to 4 vs 2?  
 

Anderton

ampfixer
Does the new Melodyne related feature work with the version supplied with Sonar or do I have to buy an upgrade? It's not clear in the ezine and this is a feature I would like to explore.

As the eZine says: "Although this feature reaches its full potential with Melodyne Editor and Studio, it’s still extremely effective with Melodyne Essential 2 and 4." Later on it mentions that only Editor and Studio include a tempo detection option to modify the tempo, but I've done the drag 'n' drop thing with Melodyne 2 and 4 and it works well.

Where can the eZine be found for next release? yea I know... But today I'm medicated today. :)