jbow
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Great or good Western movies?
My two favorites right now are
Open Range
and
Silverado.
Kevin Costner is in both and both he and Bob Duvall are outstanding in Open Range. My favorite character in Silverado is Kevin Kline. I've seen others I liked and I like most any movies, western or not, set in the 18th or 19th century.
Cowboys and Aliens... not so much.
The remake of True Grit was really good, IMO. 3:10 to Yuma was OK.. not great.
I like no BS characters like Capt. Woodrow Call in Lonesome Dove and Charley Waite (Costner) in Open Range.
Any suggestions?? What to watch...???
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/09 21:33:33
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She Wore a Yellow Ribbon...The Searchers...My Darling Clementine...Once Upon A Time In The West...The Oxbow Incident...Shane...High Noon...The Wild Bunch...Winchester 73...The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance...Last Train From Gun Hill...
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/09 21:54:33
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Here's two JW's, The Shootist, and Rio Bravo. Somewhere in my top five of fave moderns are Tomestone, and Unforgiven. Its a shame, shame, shame!!!! What has happened to hollywood since the year 2000. Westerns.. Countless great examples, in a fabulous genre... Edit = I liked that 310 to Yuma remake..
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/09 21:55:11
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Shall I go on??? Indeed!! and thanks... I will keep a list. J
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/09 22:03:06
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Quigley down under? Kinda like, "an australian western." In a genre all by itself...
I also like, "Kenny Rogers the Gambler series of flicks," but they are not real shoot em ups.
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/09 22:14:47
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My top 3 favorite Westerns: Quigly Down Under Unforgiven The Good, the Bad and the Weird (Chinese, no kidding)
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/09 22:24:32
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Love, Love, Love: "The Quick and The Dead."
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/09 22:50:42
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/09 22:54:26
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/09 23:03:19
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That reminds me, "Lonesome Dove!!!"
Great, great, great! but made for tv, and long as my...
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/09 23:27:37
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/09 23:31:59
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I'm way more into Sc-Fi movies and TV-shows such as Dr.Who and Star Trek that said; I suppose Cowboys and Aliens merges both Western and Sci-Fi genres quite well, another one is, TV-episode (Dr,Who) Town Called Mercy.
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/09 23:54:25
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bitflipper
The Good, the Bad and the Weird (Chinese, no kidding)
Now that's got my interest - had to google it and it seems it Korean, not Chinese. I love to see Zhang Yimou do a Western.
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/10 03:42:14
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'Appaloosa'.
'The Proposition' (set in Australia, but it's a Western in all but location)
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/10 04:07:44
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'Seraphim Falls' too, with Liam Neeson and Pierce Brosnan. Strange to have 2 Irishmen in the leading roles in a Western, but it's an excellent movie.
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/10 04:11:14
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You're right - that one is indeed Korean. I was confusing it with "A Woman, a Gun, and a Noodle Shop", another good one. Although a period piece, it's not actually a Western. I dig Chinese, Korean and Japanese movies. They don't follow the predictable formulas that American movies do. I like to be surprised. If the topic was horror movies, I'd have some recommendations from those countries.
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/10 04:35:32
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A Woman, a Gun, and a Noodle Shop is based on the Cohen Brothers "Wise Blood" and moved from Texas to China. - Directed by Zhang Yimou . I have not seen it yet. The cinematography in Zhang Yimou's movies is usually outstanding. They are worth watching for that alone. My other favourite Chinese director is Wong Kar Wai. 2046 is such a strange one with a bizarre mix of 60' Hong Kong and Sci Fi imagery. Sorry for hijacking the thread!
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/10 05:04:56
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If the topic was horror movies, I'd have some recommendations from those countries.
Most of the movies that I found to be borderline disturbing were Korean. And I'm not easily disturbed. Great stuff.
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/10 05:39:21
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Heaven's Gate. Cheers, Jerry
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/10 08:45:00
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/10 10:52:37
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Many of my favorites have already been mentioned, and I'd like to add Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
And Blazing Saddles.
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/10 13:11:07
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Glyn Barnes
A Woman, a Gun, and a Noodle Shop is based on the Cohen Brothers "Wise Blood" and moved from Texas to China. - Directed by Zhang Yimou . I have not seen it yet. The cinematography in Zhang Yimou's movies is usually outstanding. They are worth watching for that alone.
My other favourite Chinese director is Wong Kar Wai. 2046 is such a strange one with a bizarre mix of 60' Hong Kong and Sci Fi imagery.
Sorry for hijacking the thread!
Zhang's cinematography is methodical, but he is in tune with the theme of the story. In "Raise the Red Lantern" he is almost too mechanical and mathematical, and un-moving ... in tune with the rigidity of the story. By the time he gets to "To Live", he has learned a couple of things. The film starts out with methodical camera work, and by the time it gets to its 3rd hour, and the "revolution", it is all hand held and out of control, and it comes off as an editorial for the whole thing. Wai, is very difficult for American audiences, as he tends to not have a story, or have a story, and you can't follow it ... but his camera work has always been hand-held, and he was not the original that made that famous ... in the film festival circuit, in the 90's just about all films out of Europe, except the ones with a budget, were all handshot, and it was like even the tripod was too expensive! I have not kept up with these for the past 10 years, since I have lost the ability to see as well due to 3 right eye surgeries, that have put a dent on my ability to do reviews and such. Music has become easier to review as I do not have to battle visual exhaustion, that tends to stop me from enjoying film a lot. I try to keep up with DVD's ... but I'm not gonna see, or get the real good stuff ... my days at a movie theater, or at the Film Festivals, are probably gone ... trust me ... it's not fun!
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/10 13:15:15
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Heaven's Gate. Cheers, Jerry
Not quite a Western ... but in my book, a great film that was not liked by the critics because the studio made sure the critics hated it, and then the publicity for it was malicious. In the end, the bad guys in this film are the rich, the powerful and the corrupt ... not the "public" and this was the part that many people did not want the public to see, specially right after a revolution in the late 60's about the "new world", "new possiblities" and "life" ... that is not allowed in America, and was stolen from the native Americans and many other folks! In many ways, that film mirrors the ugliness that American History has been hiding in books, and is trying to come to grips with as the Black and Native groups gain more influence and appreciation for who they were, and ARE! The best western I have ever seen and enjoyed is "The Wild Bunch" "... let's go ... " and one of my favorite movie lines of all time ... "you can kiss my rosey red ___" by Ernest Borgnine! And his smile with the missing teeth ... is priceless!
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/10 13:42:19
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/10 15:57:06
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joakes
Heaven's Gate. Cheers, Jerry
Not quite a Western ...
LOL, others (me included would) disagree. You're right about the slating it received. I always enjoyed it, love the David Linley (?) skating bit. It is now quite well quoted. Nevada Smith ? Cheers, Jerry
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/10 16:07:27
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The outlaw josie Wales. Great movie that deals with some touchy subjects... I still do not understand why Kansas gets away with calling their teams the "redlegs". The Missouri border raiders (James, Youngers, Bloody Bill Anderson, etc) get all the blame but they were responding to what the "redlegs" had been doing. Bill went to Kansas and killed every male in town after the redlegs raided in Missouri, kidnapped wives and daughters, put them in a rickety jail that they expected would collapse, and it did. (The storekeepers nearby moved their stuff away before it collapsed) a bunch of the women were killed... but no one hears about that. The redlegs were named after the red fabricthat they stole and tied on their legs. They started the really bad behavior but the victors write the history... Josie Wales makes an attempt to put things in a more true light and is a really good movie to "boot"!
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/10 16:10:29
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That reminds me, "Lonesome Dove!!!" Great movie... I love the scene where Woodrow runs his horse into another guy's horse because the guy is messing with his boy (whom he wont claim), then he nearly beats the guy to death before he is pulled off. Larry McMurtry is a good writer. His book "Pretty Boy Floyd" (with Diana Osana) is a really good read.
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/10 16:13:09
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Well, I have some movies to look for now!! Thanks The Korean movie is interesting, got to find that. Appaloosa was god James, only seen it once... will find it. Saw Unforgiven uears ago, will find it again too... and the others. I'll check the Amazon link in a bit... got to go grill some hamburgers on the Weber right now! YUM...
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/12 13:44:13
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Not movies per se: Deadwood and Justified.
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Re:Great or good Western movies?
2013/03/12 14:37:58
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Wyatt Earp with Costner
Lonesome Dove - Duvall
Open Range - Both of them
Dance with Wolves - Costner
True Grit - Duke
Appoloosa - Ed Harris
She wore a yellow ribbon - Duke
How the west was won - A little goofy but visually true.
Streets of Laredo - Totally goofy but I always watch it
Yeah, those are my favorites.
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