Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)?

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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/20 12:20:34 (permalink)
The last time Billy took a break from the forums I pm'ed him after a few months and he immediatley answered.  We then exchanged a few pm's.  So if he did that for someone he didn't know, I'd bet the farm that he would certainly answer a pm from someone he knew.

I found Billy's ability to communicate to be outstanding.  He seemed to be able to put his thoughts into words and never come across as anything but a very nice guy willing to help or express an opinion. (Even when he was ticked.)
That is a gift I wish I had.

Whether he is gone from the world or not is not yet confirmed.  But he is gone from the forums and his presence is certainly missed.

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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/20 17:25:45 (permalink)
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Well, it does tell us that one Billy Arnell passed away.  But are we sure it's our Billy? 

The man who collaborated w/ Loeb was in his early 20s in the mid-70s.  Meaning he'd be 50 something now. Maybe I have it all wrong, but I imagined Billy a bit younger. I don't know, I'm hesitant to say my goodbyes to our friend before we know for sure.

More like 60. I saw the guy's photo on his website and he doesn't look that old! Plus his music does not sound like that of a 60 year old guy. I wouldn't close the book on this yet, if what you say is true about the deceased man's age. 


I tend to agree (because I'm hoping against hope it ain't true) - I usually listened to Billy's music on the Songs forum, and it ranged from techno to garage to R & B ballads..that doesn't really fit the image of a 60 year old guy to me.


His last log-in was May 13th this year, and his posts from around that time were pretty upbeat, so I'm really hoping this is just a long break.

 
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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/20 19:20:44 (permalink)
Well, I wish I had better news for you guys. If the address that Scott Lee posted (260 W72nd st) is of the Billy Arnell in question, he passed away 4 weeks ago. There was no doorman but I spoke to the super through the intercom. From where did this address come from?
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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/20 19:27:39 (permalink)
Ouch. Thanks for taking the detour Sharke.

Scott provided that address - I guess it was linked to one of the phone numbers he had for Billy.


EDIT - really I have no clue, I'm just bumping this thread, hoping someone will chime in w/ more info.

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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/20 19:35:43 (permalink)
This is terrible news. I won't pretend Billy and I got on especially well, as you all know we didn't, so I wouldn't want to be dishonest about it. But I'm saddened to hear he might no longer be with us, and I know he was very helpful and generous within this community, indeed far more so than I. We may have clashed a lot, but I respect that he had, or hopefully still has, a good heart and a sharp mind. I would be overjoyed to see him re-appear, I can certainly say that.

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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/20 20:04:05 (permalink)
I'd really love Billy to see this thread and come out with one of his punchlines just now.

He is sorely missed already.

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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/20 20:43:48 (permalink)
On that Note: Cheers and here's to You ! sipp ...
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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/20 21:14:58 (permalink)
Someone do something nice with his avatar.
I'm too lame.
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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/20 23:05:41 (permalink)
I will miss Billy and think of him every time I drop Pro-Q into an fx bin. 

You see, out of the blue one day Billy went and bought me a copy of Pro-Q - just so I would agree with him that it was the bestest ever. I do, and it is. 

Once I had Pro-Q I could then get a discount on Pro-C. Later on, a few other forum friends let me send them the FF invite so I could afford Pro-L. 

And that's why I have the Fabfilter trilogy today. It all started with Billy and an unexpected act of generosity. I will remember Billy every time I EQ a track.


All else is in doubt, so this is the truth I cling to. 

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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/21 00:04:21 (permalink)
Awwww...  I've been following this thread hoping that Billy would pop in with a Mark Twain-ish quote and let us know he's OK. Sounds like that's not going to happen, so I'll raise a glass to Billy tonight.....  He'll be missed.


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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/21 00:35:42 (permalink)
Found a very interesting article in New York Magazine featuring a "Musician and Jingle writer" from the Upper West Side named Billy Arnell from 1984 about the new fang dangled BBS systems cropping up all over. It sounds just like him from the way they described him in the article. Link Here

Hope we're all wrong and he's sitting back laughing wondering how long this thread will go on before he chimes in letting us know he's ok. I always got along with him and liked him. He seemed to 'get' my brand of obnoxious, abrasive humor, it's an East Coast thing I guess. ;) Hope all is well no matter where he's at now.

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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/21 01:01:20 (permalink)
Now I'm confused. There seems to be some assumption that the Bill in question is the Bill who is associated with Steve Loeb. Now apparently a Billy Arnell and Steve Loeb wrote the theme tune to ABC News, which in the following link says "1978 Publisher":


http://www.classicthemes.com/50sTVThemes/themePages/ABCnews.html

But if you click on his name in that link, it takes you to a page which says the theme was done in 1967:

http://www.classicthemes.com/tvRadioComposerPages/arnellBilly.html

Now honestly speaking....I don't know how old this guy was supposed to be, but listening to the stuff on his website, it just doesn't fit the bill of someone who wrote a TV theme in 1967. I'm still wondering where Scott got the address from that I visited today...was it connected to the Billy Arnell who worked with Steve Loeb? And are we sure that is BA-Midi? I hate to stir things up, but when I came away from that building today I was thinking "well I guess that's that," and yet here I am with my doubts again!
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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/21 01:11:28 (permalink)
Also, if you look at the source HTML of his website, there's references to photos that he's commented out - don't know what the ethics are of posting photos that he obviously chose not to have on the site, but if you look at the source they are titled "graphics/mypic3.jpg" going up to "mypic6.jpg" - if you paste these onto the home URL of his site (starting with a forward slash of course) then you can see 3 more photos of Billy. Again, I don't know when they were taken, but to me they just don't look like someone who was writing jingles and TV themes in the 60's. However, I could be spectacularly wrong. 
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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/21 02:05:19 (permalink)
While it's always hard to know for sure, the most worrying thing is that ignoring people's PMs, emails, and not visiting here even if not posting, just isn't like Billy. I only know him via here but I'm sure if he saw this topic he would definitely reply and let us all know he's okay.

Of course there may be genuine other reasons why he can't do any of those things and I really hope there is but it doesn't look good.
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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/21 03:38:59 (permalink)
Hi everyone,

This is what I know. I worked for Capital records for a bit, of which billy and I spoke briefly about. Billy owned, ran or had some affiliation with a record company that delt with capital as well as other record companies at some point in time. 

The address I supplied wasn't one billy gave me directly, but was the address I found for a Billy Arnell living in NYC.  Im not 100% sure that was his address, though was the only Billy Arnell I found. 

The thing about Billy is even if he would drop off, he always made sure to get right back to me or as some posted, would email them back promptly. Thats the big concern of mine. I am also reserving thinking the worst until someone can do a positive ID. 

Hoping for the best for Billy! Please still be with us.







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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/21 08:49:15 (permalink)

These photos of Billy, are from his website:





They are tagged with info that suggests that they were made at 1:24 a.m. on 01/02/2006, so that's about 6-1/2 years ago.


This photo was taken when Billy was 8 years old.



Looks like it was made in the late 1950's or perhaps early 1960's.


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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/21 09:04:14 (permalink)
OK the next step seems to be:   Someone in NY (Sharke again?) needs to take the picture Mike posted to the appartment and get a visual comfirmaton of the Sonar Billy Arnell and Billy Arnell who passed.  Are they the one and the same?
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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/21 09:26:48 (permalink)
Ya know something doesn't seem right here.   How can a guy in the music biz and a guy who is pretty tech savy,  who was on the internet a lot  have so little info? 

A one line obit,  a web page and a couple of blurbs on wikipedia and such?  No family...no nothing?

I mean if you dug on me you could find my current batting average in my old man's baseball league, the highschool I went to,  music projects, old bands I played in,  where I have worked,  where I have taught  etc....  i am not much younger than Billy.   You could find that stuff with little effort.




  

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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/21 12:05:17 (permalink)
Seems like it's quite an unusual name; I did a search on Facebook and only came up with one Billy Arnell, and it ain't our Billy.

 
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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/21 12:24:30 (permalink)
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Well, I wish I had better news for you guys. If the address that Scott Lee posted (260 W72nd st) is of the Billy Arnell in question, he passed away 4 weeks ago. There was no doorman but I spoke to the super through the intercom. From where did this address come from?

According to the links below, the man named Billy Arnell at that address was 63 years old. The phone number seems to match what Scott provided.  His CEL phone is a 212-362-xxxx


http://www.whitepages.com.ir/New-York/Arnell/Billy


http://www.spokeo.com/sea...mp;swp4=t30#:277986887



As Mike pointed out, the 8 years old pic looks like late 50's, maybe early 60's. Which would make it all the more likely.
post edited by Rain - 2012/08/21 12:31:16

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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/21 12:31:40 (permalink)
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Well, I wish I had better news for you guys. If the address that Scott Lee posted (260 W72nd st) is of the Billy Arnell in question, he passed away 4 weeks ago. There was no doorman but I spoke to the super through the intercom. From where did this address come from?

According to the links below, the man named Billy Arnell at that address was in his early 63 years old.  However, the phone number seems to match what Scott provided.  His CEL phone is a 212-362-xxxx


http://www.whitepages.com.ir/New-York/Arnell/Billy


http://www.spokeo.com/sea...mp;swp4=t30#:277986887
the 2nd link provides an email address w- breakout.com being the domain which appears to be a taxi service...seems unlikely Billy would have that email address


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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/21 12:37:11 (permalink)
Actually, Billy Arnell is also listed as chairman of Break Out Music, here. :s

http://www.manta.com/g/mr5h1sp/billy-arnell

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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/21 12:41:22 (permalink)
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Actually, Billy Arnell is also listed as chairman of Break Out Music, here. :s

http://www.manta.com/g/mr5h1sp/billy-arnell

 oh i see....not so encouraging 

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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/21 12:51:58 (permalink)
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Hi everyone,

This is what I know. I worked for Capital records for a bit, of which billy and I spoke briefly about. Billy owned, ran or had some affiliation with a record company that delt with capital as well as other record companies at some point in time. 

The address I supplied wasn't one billy gave me directly, but was the address I found for a Billy Arnell living in NYC.  Im not 100% sure that was his address, though was the only Billy Arnell I found. 

The thing about Billy is even if he would drop off, he always made sure to get right back to me or as some posted, would email them back promptly. Thats the big concern of mine. I am also reserving thinking the worst until someone can do a positive ID. 

Hoping for the best for Billy! Please still be with us.

The band Riot - produced by the man named Billy Arnell who worked w/ Loeb - had at least one record on Capitol.


See http://www.discogs.com/artist/Arnell+%26+Loeb
and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narita_(album)


EDIT - I hope this doesn't come across like I'm prying. Billy's absence just really affect me, like I think it does many of us. I'm always hoping that I'll hit some information that'll prove me that we have the wrong guy.

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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/21 13:39:06 (permalink)
This doesn't look good. However, like others here, I struggle to think that Billy has passed away until we get some confirmation. On the other hand, I find it weird that he hasn't picked up on this thread, either from visiting the forums (even just to lurk) or the PM's and e-mails sent to him. 

I would love to see him chime in here, saying "Hello" and calm us all. But I'm starting to think that it will never happen...

I will keep an eye on this thread in case something new pops up.


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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/21 13:46:19 (permalink)
I hate to make this any more complicated than it already is, but there is a YouTube video of an old track by one Billy Arnell (of Billy Arnell and the Sparkles), which features a comment from someone, posted 4 weeks ago, which says "RIP Billy we miss you." The super I spoke to said that the Billy Arnell at 260 W72nd st died 4 weeks ago too. I'm really confused as to whether or not there are two Billy Arnells, both seemingly in the music business. Or perhaps this YouTube commenter  knew of the BA-Midi Billy Arnell, heard of his death, and did a search on YouTube and mistakenly thought that Billy was the same one? Or maybe that really IS BA-Midi singing on the Tough Girl track? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GOsBpHyldE
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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/21 14:51:08 (permalink)
I hate to add this, but...   I think one of Billy's side projects, or perhaps his "day job" if you will, was some type of database software related to a taxi service.  I don't recall the details, but I do recall thinking it was an odd juxtposition to his music.  So based on the information above, it's certainly not looking good from here.
 

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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/21 15:39:20 (permalink)
More worringly is the similarity in website design between the breakout.com website and Billy's.

http://www.breakout.com/

http://www.ba-midi.com/music/files/


Same colour, similar layout, same font. While it hardly proves anything as an observation it doesn't help me stop thinking the worst.
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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/21 15:43:25 (permalink)
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I hate to make this any more complicated than it already is, but there is a YouTube video of an old track by one Billy Arnell (of Billy Arnell and the Sparkles), which features a comment from someone, posted 4 weeks ago, which says "RIP Billy we miss you." The super I spoke to said that the Billy Arnell at 260 W72nd st died 4 weeks ago too. I'm really confused as to whether or not there are two Billy Arnells, both seemingly in the music business. Or perhaps this YouTube commenter  knew of the BA-Midi Billy Arnell, heard of his death, and did a search on YouTube and mistakenly thought that Billy was the same one? Or maybe that really IS BA-Midi singing on the Tough Girl track? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GOsBpHyldE

Yeah, I noticed that video and comment when I was searching around frantically last week.  I just sent a message to the person who wrote it, with a link to this thread and to Billy's website, so hopefully we'll learn something soon.

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Re:Has anyone seen or heard from Billy A (BA-Midi)? 2012/08/21 15:49:15 (permalink)
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More worringly is the similarity in website design between the breakout.com website and Billy's.

http://www.breakout.com/

http://www.ba-midi.com/music/files/


Same colour, similar layout, same font. While it hardly proves anything as an observation it doesn't help me stop thinking the worst.


Yea and listen to the music in the video on Breakout.Com.  Sure does sound like Billy's stuff.  Have to say... that has to be him.
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