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Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before.

I bought Sonar Artist a few months ago and I'm struggling.  I'm a working musician who needs to create new and edit existing MIDI files.  Also, I need to create audio tracks (Vocal harmonies) with my midi files and Edit existing MP3 tracks.  Can anyone out there help me with my questions?  Any help would be greatly appreciated :)
 
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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/09 16:56:56 (permalink)
Welcome!
I'm sure many here would be glad to help. What exactly is your question?
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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/09 17:05:44 (permalink)
Thanks for the quick reply.  I gave up on Sonar 2 months ago out of frustration.  Now that I've found this forum I will definitely have questions in the next few days.  Thanks again :)
 
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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/09 17:07:25 (permalink)
No problem. This is a very helpful place.
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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/09 17:45:51 (permalink)
Try to work through the tutorials that came with Sonar.  They are very helpful.  You might also checkout Cake TV and Sonar University.  They are on this site and have videos on how to do some things in Sonar.

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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/09 17:49:46 (permalink)
Thanks Dave.  Will do :)
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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/09 21:10:48 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby RSMCGUITAR 2017/02/10 01:07:31
BDKELSO
I bought Sonar Artist a few months ago and I'm struggling.  I'm a working musician who needs to create new and edit existing MIDI files.  Also, I need to create audio tracks (Vocal harmonies) with my midi files and Edit existing MP3 tracks.  Can anyone out there help me with my questions?  Any help would be greatly appreciated :)
 
Brad


These videos are for x2.  However, Artist just built on the platform so you will find the functions are generally the same as well as the layout.  This is a fantastic professional free resource. 
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKRYWdEpbc5PgUgvrNuSvVyfv5qkll0qj
 
1. Audio Interface Setup - 7:24
2. Audio Interface Options - 8:20
3. MIDI Device Setup - 8:58
4. MIDI Clock & Sync - 10:19
5. Control Surface Setup - 14:20
6. File Options - 10:08
7. Plugin Manager - 6:44
8. Instrument Definitions - 10:09
9. GUI & Track Overview - 14:48
10. The Browser - 8:58
11. Multidock & Control Bar - 11:41
12. Inspector & Control View - 7:02
13. Piano Roll View & Screensets - 10:05
14. Project, Track & Bus Templates - 14:02
15. Exploring the Track - 14:35
16. Exploring the Track (Pt.2) - 14:50
17. Exploring the Track (Pt.3) - 13:55
18. Exploring the Track (Pt.4) - 7:52
19. MIDI Synths - 13:03
20. MIDI Synths (Pt.2) - 5:47
21. Session Drummer & Drum Maps - 12:13
22. Audio Routing - 13:06
23. Working with Video - 4:02
24. Audio & MIDI Basics - 23:26
25. MIDI Advanced - 10:46
26. The Matrix - 16:15
27. Step Sequencer - 12:03
28. Editing Basics - 11:47
29. Editing Basics (Pt.2) - 11:45
30. Editing Basics (Pt.3) - 16:17
31. Editing MIDI - 11:22
32. Editing MIDI (Pt.2) - 8:50
33. Staff View - 6:22
34. Comping and V-Vocal - 17:22 - (V-Vocal not in X3)
35. Groove Loops (Clips) - 12:32
36. Working with Tempo - 10:24
37. Working with Audiosnap - 8:47
38. Working with Audiosnap (Pt.2) - 8:26
39. Working with Audiosnap (Pt.3) - 9:34
40. Working with Audiosnap (Pt.4) - 6:23
41. Console View - 9:32
42. Clean Up & Bouncing - 8:25
43. Control Groups & Gain Control - 10:24
44. Pro Channel & Side Chains - 12:56
45. Working with FX & FX Bins - 11:31
46. Working with FX Chains - 10:30
47. Working with Automation - 7:58
48. Working with Automation (Pt.2) - 10:53
49. Working with Automation (Pt.3) - 13:04
50. Exporting - 8:05
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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/09 22:34:32 (permalink)
Sonar power are cool books on the subject.

http://www.garrigus.com/powerbooks.asp

StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/10 00:42:45 (permalink)
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I bought Sonar Artist a few months ago and I'm struggling.  I'm a working musician who needs to create new and edit existing MIDI files.  Also, I need to create audio tracks (Vocal harmonies) with my midi files and Edit existing MP3 tracks.  Can anyone out there help me with my questions?  Any help would be greatly appreciated :)
 
Brad


These videos are for x2.  However, Artist just built on the platform so you will find the functions are generally the same as well as the layout.  This is a fantastic professional free resource. 
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKRYWdEpbc5PgUgvrNuSvVyfv5qkll0qj
 
1. Audio Interface Setup - 7:24
2. Audio Interface Options - 8:20
3. MIDI Device Setup - 8:58
4. MIDI Clock & Sync - 10:19
5. Control Surface Setup - 14:20
6. File Options - 10:08
7. Plugin Manager - 6:44
8. Instrument Definitions - 10:09
9. GUI & Track Overview - 14:48
10. The Browser - 8:58
11. Multidock & Control Bar - 11:41
12. Inspector & Control View - 7:02
13. Piano Roll View & Screensets - 10:05
14. Project, Track & Bus Templates - 14:02
15. Exploring the Track - 14:35
16. Exploring the Track (Pt.2) - 14:50
17. Exploring the Track (Pt.3) - 13:55
18. Exploring the Track (Pt.4) - 7:52
19. MIDI Synths - 13:03
20. MIDI Synths (Pt.2) - 5:47
21. Session Drummer & Drum Maps - 12:13
22. Audio Routing - 13:06
23. Working with Video - 4:02
24. Audio & MIDI Basics - 23:26
25. MIDI Advanced - 10:46
26. The Matrix - 16:15
27. Step Sequencer - 12:03
28. Editing Basics - 11:47
29. Editing Basics (Pt.2) - 11:45
30. Editing Basics (Pt.3) - 16:17
31. Editing MIDI - 11:22
32. Editing MIDI (Pt.2) - 8:50
33. Staff View - 6:22
34. Comping and V-Vocal - 17:22 - (V-Vocal not in X3)
35. Groove Loops (Clips) - 12:32
36. Working with Tempo - 10:24
37. Working with Audiosnap - 8:47
38. Working with Audiosnap (Pt.2) - 8:26
39. Working with Audiosnap (Pt.3) - 9:34
40. Working with Audiosnap (Pt.4) - 6:23
41. Console View - 9:32
42. Clean Up & Bouncing - 8:25
43. Control Groups & Gain Control - 10:24
44. Pro Channel & Side Chains - 12:56
45. Working with FX & FX Bins - 11:31
46. Working with FX Chains - 10:30
47. Working with Automation - 7:58
48. Working with Automation (Pt.2) - 10:53
49. Working with Automation (Pt.3) - 13:04
50. Exporting - 8:05


This table of contents is actually a very good resource. Thanks

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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/10 07:10:19 (permalink)
mudgel
This table of contents is actually a very good resource. Thanks



I agree, seen this last night and watched a few of them.
Nice find Brian Walton.

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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/10 10:28:55 (permalink)
Nice reference!  Thanks.  Also may want to look into Groove3.  They have a few videos on SONAR as well.

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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/10 11:05:22 (permalink)
Welcome to the forum.  Recording and editing audio and midi is easy-peasy.  If you don't get the answers you need from all the above material just post your problem and we'll get you sorted out.
 
Good luck!

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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/10 12:37:26 (permalink)
Welcome aboard!! I think you will find this place is as good as it gets with dedicated, helpful recording geeks and musicians of all styles, ages, and opinions!! All of the above posts have pretty much covered what you need to get started. Don't hesitate one moment to post a question, no matter how simple or difficult. You will find yourself among some of the most knowledable people and most importantly among friends!

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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/10 12:41:00 (permalink)
BDKelso welcome to the forum. You picked the right one to join. 

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There's a cost, however, this site has some great Sonar videos:
 
https://www.groove3.com/cakewalk-sonar-tutorials
 

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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/10 14:50:32 (permalink)
Welcome BD.... as others are saying, you will find this forum quite helpful.  Not too much BS here and if you have a specific question once you dive in, folks here are more than eager to help.  We were all noobies once.
 
Whatever you do, don't give up and don't be afraid to ask questions here.  There is no such thing as a bad question when it comes to SONAR.  I think you will find that SONAR can do practically anything you need to do in your projects. With the exception of creating new music and mixing tracks by itself.

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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/10 15:12:00 (permalink)
I would like to thank everybody for their welcoming contributions and encouraging words.  Today I will start binge watching all things sonar.  See ya soon :)
 
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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/10 17:26:59 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2017/02/11 03:55:58
BDKELSO
Today I will start binge watching all things sonar.

 
No! No! No! No! No! No! No! Please Don't. You will overload yourself in no time flat.
If you look at the list that Brain posted you can see that you need to chunk it all down.
 
I'm not very active on the forum but I peruse it most mornings with my coffee pot, today I make an exception and reply.
 
  • Get your setup happening, things like Audio interface, MIDI device setup,
  • Then get a good understand of things like the “Browser” “Inspector” “Multidock”
 If you have problems DO NOT keep watching the same video over and over, hop on the forum and ask questions (it's a great place to learn)
 
Once you reach that point start having some fun!
We don't know what your goals are for using Splat or what instruments you play but what ever your skillsets are... do it, record it, listen back and enjoy it. Fun! Fun! Fun! Fun! Fun! Fun! Fun! Fun!
 
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So to nutshell it…
Think what you want Splat to do for you! Then go about learning those skills while having FUN!
If your not sure what areas to concentrate on, then maybe these are the first questions you should ask on the forum. The support and knowledge of forum users is totally outstanding! I would hate to think you spent a lot of time and mental energy learning some section of Splat that you will never use and therefore get no benefit from.  
 

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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/10 17:33:30 (permalink)
I agree with Bent. Learning is best done in stages. Focus on one thing at a time.

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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/10 17:45:01 (permalink)
Yep, BENT's got it right.  Break it up into small chunks that you can actually use first.  Then add additional things.

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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/11 00:33:14 (permalink)

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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/11 04:17:48 (permalink)
Welcome to the forum! I owned a different products for 8 years before I ever came in here, so only a few months to pop in is a wiser choice.
 
Another endorsement for BENT's comments. Focus on the elements that are important to you first, and Karl's SWA Complete SONAR X2 (Brian Walton's post above) is a nice resource.
 
For what you mentioned in the OP, getting audio out, learning the GUI, and working with MIDI/Soft Synths may be a good focus. Piano Roll View (PRV) will probably become your default editing medium for MIDI, so the built-in Tutorials will also be an asset for you (doing tasks in a project you have not created from scratch). For MIDI, realize that a *.mid file is limited, so get into the habit of saving all projects as *.cwp's even if you "only want the MIDI." Down the road you will appreciate having all of the information you have worked on within SONAR. And since you are just starting, learn the habit of religiously naming tracks as you create them (for when you are searching files in years to come).
 
Many times you will run into a situation where you know exactly what you want to do, but not necessarily the names/functions of where to find them, etc. In those instances, do not waste undue time searching, but rather ask here. People here can save you a lot of searching by recommending a work flow or functions to focus on by name. Sometimes it is just that "specific name" that you are looking for so you can research more elsewhere.

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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/11 06:42:00 (permalink)
I learned on Cakewalk Pro Audio back in the late 1990's (I was convinced this digital thing was a flash in the pan).
I mean Tape lasted 50 years. Digital was supposed to take over Tape ? ... Lets move on.
 
At first it can be very confusing, there are so many things to learn and all we really want to do is begin creating.
My advise is to grab a pen and paper and watch some of the basic videos on simple recording / playback. the things you want to achieve. Take a few notes (don't write a book). But jot down the important things to remember.
 
Sometimes by writing things down we remember more, its almost as if its burned in to our memory.
As someone said above, don't try and fill a shot glass with a gallon of milk. Don't try and learn to much to fast.
You tube has a wealth of free knowledge.
 
Welcome to the crazy world of making music.
 

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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/11 08:42:29 (permalink)
Thanks guys.  I guess at this point learning what not to do is as important as learning what to do.  NO BINGE WATCHING. Got it.  Thanks again :)
 
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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/11 09:51:26 (permalink)
Welcome BD.
 
Another resource is the Reference Manual in PDF format written for all flavors of Sonar, which includes Artist. 
 
It is over 2500 pages and was updated in December.  It is a wealth of info.  It should be located in your install folder.
 
Good luck. 

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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/02/11 12:02:25 (permalink)
One of my early mistakes was using non-SONAR terms for things I was confused about. 
 
Also, I thinks it's best to open a thread about one specific issue. 
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Re: Hello. Im a total nubie to DAWs and Iv never joined a forum before. 2017/08/06 15:10:31 (permalink)
Make sure you spend time to put what you learn into practice so you start developing muscle memory for computer keyboard and mouse activity.
Start a project as soon as you can as it's the thing you want to do and it's where all your knowledge comes together. And above all enjoy what you do and realise that frustration is part of the process.

Whether it's a note or a lyric or a something to do with the computer or Sonar frustration can kill the joy until you realise it's part of the process. It gets your emotions and passions tiered up and that's a good place from which to get inspiration for your music. All the best

Mike V. (MUDGEL)

STUDIO: Win 10 Pro x64, SPlat & CbB x64,
PC: ASUS Z370-A, INTEL i7 8700k, 32GIG DDR4 2400, OC 4.7Ghz.
Storage: 7 TB SATA III, 750GiG SSD & Samsung 500 Gig 960 EVO NVMe M.2.
Monitors: Adam A7X, JBL 10” Sub.
Audio I/O & DSP Server: DIGIGRID IOS & IOX.
Screen: Raven MTi + 43" HD 4K TV Monitor.
Keyboard Controller: Native Instruments Komplete Kontrol S88.
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