Help sonar 8

It's been awhile since I used Sonar 8.....IIRC....
 
When you insert a softsynth, make sure the "Enable MIDI Output" is checked. 
Then you just have to insert it as an effect on the audio track in Sonar (your guitar track).
After inserting the plugin to your audio track, you’ll need to connect the MIDI output to the virtual instrument
 
Hopefully, someone else will chime in with a bit more clear instructions.

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Make sure the "Input Echo" is ON:
 

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=434699&sid=5b2ac0bcb45b391501367a756b89aa14&start=60

Check out this thread on kvr

Jens-Åke
Been looking at that kvr page before aswell, but didnt find a solution for me.
I guess i have to learn playing piano after all

Hi Jens,
No need to give up yet, there's always a solution (even if it's hard to find).
Not sure if you've tried this yet......the link I'm suggesting is for an Izotope product and it has some good pics on how to configure as a synth (just substitute Migic for Stutter Edit).
 
http://help.izotope.com/docs/stutteredit/pages/quickstart_cakewalksonar.htm
 
I know Migic is in Beta right now, but you should really check out Midi Guitar by JamOrigin......we have already gone through the Beta stage of this and many (if not all) of us are very happy with it......now in version 2. The developer is also very open to requests.......most of all, it works extremely well for us non-keyboardists.
 
http://jamorigin.com/products/midi-guitar/
 
 
 

Which sound card are you using? If you don't have a dedicated soundcard, I'd recommend getting a fairly decent one to run Sonar and one that has good support for ASIO.
 
 
ASIO4all is usually used on laptops that only have onboard soundcards (i.e.Realtek). Have you tried using the WDM drivers? 
 
Yes, Midi Guitar (MG) has the full VST version and recording/tracking is excellent with it. You'll have to play around with the settings in MG and adjust them to your liking......also, there's a bit of guitar playing technique adjustment that you'll have to do to get the best results. Some synth sounds will need more technique adjustments while other sounds will be a breeze to play. Meaning, your playing technique will have to be cleaner and any sloppy playing can result in some unwanted notes.
 
Regarding Iron Maiden gallop (one of my fav. bands), are you talking about the song Running Free?  

I'm not familiar with Avid's products, but briefly looking at their site, it says it "works with ASIO" (as well as WDM)...... http://www.avid.com/us/products/pro-tools-plus-mbox/system-requirements
 
Have you tried the ASIO drivers that come with mbox? (they should be a whole lot better than ASIO4all). Once you get a good system/hardware performance going, then the software should work as advertised. If not, you'll be chasing all kinds of problems unnecessarily.  
 
I've had excellent experiences using ASIO with Sonar & Midi Guitar......no issues whatsoever. As I mentioned earlier, the synths you trigger with MG will respond differently (depending on the preset patch), but you can always adjust the parameters in the synth to suit your needs.
 
I think it's totally worth spending the $99 + taxes in getting this as there really isn't anything in this price range that's as good as what MG does. Like most Beta versions, Migic will likely get a lot of performance issues (software/hardware)  that may/may not get resolved in time. With MG, you won't have to go through many of these early headaches as it simply works....and works very well. :)) 

LoopBe1 and LoopMIDI, got them downloaded but actually have no idea how they work.
I think i created a midi port in one of the programs and found it in outputs in midi track in sonar. Thats all i have done.
Is there any short easy explaination how to do? :)

scook
Set the MIDI output in the stand alone program to one of the virtual MIDI cable inputs.
Make sure SONAR has the virtual MIDI cable selected as a MIDI input device in preferences.
After adding a synth to the project in SONAR set the Instrument or MIDI input to the virtual MIDI cable and enable input echo on the track.

Thank you for this, i actually got it to work and the notes transferred  to sonar!
The only problem i have is that when i using for example Midi Guitar, i hear the sound from that program but when trying to listen what i recorded in sonar, theres no sound.
same if i go on youtube when have a projekt open, i cant hear the sound in youtube without turning the audio engine off in sonar.
So now i can record the midi, but cant do it to any click, or hearing other tracks.. Think the soundcard is busy with one program in the time and cant do two, any idea why?
 
But if this works with the loopmidi, does that mean the vst will work or i got you wrong?
Thanks again for all answers!

scook
You do not want to a have anything generating audio other than SONAR. Make sure SONAR is not sharing the audio driver.

Although I've seen a lot of people on the forums stating to avoid "sharing the audio driver", Sonar's documentation says it's ok to share when Sonar is NOT the focus of Windows.
https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X3&language=3&help=Dialogs2.053.html
 
I don't have that box "ticked", but always wondered about this.

I tryied to select and unchecked it again but i did loose the sound from sonar and didnt get it back until i shut down MidiGuitar.
when i later start midiguitar again i have sound from both MG and sonar until i try record, after that i loose it and cant get it back untill i close MG.

Good to hear it's working out Jens.
 
It does take some (slight) adjustment to your technique and since pitch bends are not available (yet), it won't feel quite like when plugging a guitar straight into an amp. There'll always be some loss of "emotional expressiveness" that we're used to when playing the real guitar......hopefully, MG will someday evolve into something very close.
 
For best results, you'll just have to tweak the settings in MG to your liking AND also adapt to the sounds of the synth when playing.
I actually recorded a little "synth" solo last night with it and it tracked very well.....playing cleanly will definitely improve in not getting odd notes/odd responses.