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Midi-Guitar Software
I just saw this site and haven't tried it yet, but it might be a good option for guitarists whom are non-keyboardist. It's free since it's still in beta testing and might be a useful VST. http://www.jamorigin.com/site/products/midi-guitar/
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January 04, 13 10:58 AM
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Wow, that's really cool. Going to try it for sure. Thanks
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January 04, 13 11:02 AM
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January 04, 13 11:11 AM
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I did. I have an 80's plastic Casio DG-20 that is polyphonic. Hard to set up and doesn't do bends and A Sonuus G2M guitar to midi converter. Does bends but monophonic. Sounds like this can replace both. Thanks again.
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January 04, 13 11:18 AM
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☄ Helpfulby ericg80 October 19, 16 5:58 AM
Instructions for using this with Sonar (from their website): 1. Copy VST pluging to your VST folder. 2. Launch Sonar. It should automatically recognize the new plug-in and create needed registry entries (ie you should see the plug-in as an effect in Audio FX menu). If not, use Plug-in Manager to scan new plug-ins. 3. Use Cakewalk Plug-in Manager, find MIDI Guitar in Effects section and open "Plug-in Properties". Enable "Configure as synth" option. 4. Close Sonar and use Regedit to change generateEvents key from "0" to "1" in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\SONAR Producer\Cakewalk VST X64\Inventory\ -> MIDI Guitar 5. Launch Sonar. Add new audio track. Insert MIDI Guitar (now found in Soft Synths menu) to FX bin. 6. Go to Synth rack view. Right click grey area of the MIDI Guitar synth block and click "Enable MIDI Output". That's it. Add your favourite synth to a new track and route MIDI input from MIDI Guitar, which should be visible in MIDI input menu.
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January 04, 13 12:05 AM
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Thanks for the updated info. Got the DL link and tried the stand alone with the test piano sound. I can confirm it is indeed much better than both of my other MIDI guitar options for sensitivity. Now that's what I call innovation.
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Re:Midi-Guitar Software
January 04, 13 12:18 AM
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I signed up but could not get the confirmation there fore no DL Link.
I am very much intrested in trying this out. Always wanted a Midi Guitar and now I should be able to use my regular Electric ......
this could be good!!
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January 04, 13 12:41 AM
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Good news Grant!!!! I'm looking forward to installing this tonight. I'm glad it's free :). I was actually reading some reviews on the You Rock Guitar Gen 2 as I'm terrible on the keys and ran into all kinds of midi guitar stuff. Clifford, not sure if you've seen this yet, but the Fishman Tripple Play midi-controler seems to be the next best option. I don't think it's out yet, but it's really impressive......at least the way Burr Johnson made it look at NAMM 2012. This was designed by the same guy that built the Axon and it looks like it will leave the Roland GR series in the dark......I think it's around $300 for the Fishman. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UZ7Qv5H_2k
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January 04, 13 1:32 PM
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I played around with this for about a half hour and can say it's definitely worth checking out. I had no problems getting it to run in Sonar (Windows 7 x64) using the procedure I posted earlier.
At first the latency was horrible, so I ran the wave profiler at the fastest buffer setting and that helped a lot. Increasing the Pitch Prediction to 3 also helped. I had to increase the Sensitivity to 100 to get every note to play using a strat w/ single coils.
I'm going to spend some more time with it, but I wouldn't be surprised if I end up preordering it.
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January 04, 13 2:43 PM
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Thanks jma for the tips......I'm sure I'll need them. 
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January 04, 13 2:43 PM
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jma
Instructions for using this with Sonar (from their website):
1. Copy VST pluging to your VST folder.
2. Launch Sonar. It should automatically recognize the new plug-in and create needed registry entries (ie you should see the plug-in as an effect in Audio FX menu). If not, use Plug-in Manager to scan new plug-ins.
3. Use Cakewalk Plug-in Manager, find MIDI Guitar in Effects section and open "Plug-in Properties". Enable "Configure as synth" option.
4. Close Sonar and use Regedit to change generateEvents key from "0" to "1" in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\SONAR Producer\Cakewalk VST X64\Inventory\ -> MIDI Guitar
5. Launch Sonar. Add new audio track. Insert MIDI Guitar (now found in Soft Synths menu) to FX bin.
6. Go to Synth rack view. Right click grey area of the MIDI Guitar synth block and click "Enable MIDI Output".
That's it. Add your favourite synth to a new track and route MIDI input from MIDI Guitar, which should be visible in MIDI input menu.
Thanks for the detailed steps. But, I did all that and I do not get any output from guitar to synth. Not even in record enabled for the MIDI track. Hmmmmmmm. I'm on 64bit Win 7 with SONAR 64bit.
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January 04, 13 2:56 PM
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jma
Instructions for using this with Sonar (from their website):
1. Copy VST pluging to your VST folder.
2. Launch Sonar. It should automatically recognize the new plug-in and create needed registry entries (ie you should see the plug-in as an effect in Audio FX menu). If not, use Plug-in Manager to scan new plug-ins.
3. Use Cakewalk Plug-in Manager, find MIDI Guitar in Effects section and open "Plug-in Properties". Enable "Configure as synth" option.
4. Close Sonar and use Regedit to change generateEvents key from "0" to "1" in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\SONAR Producer\Cakewalk VST X64\Inventory\ -> MIDI Guitar
5. Launch Sonar. Add new audio track. Insert MIDI Guitar (now found in Soft Synths menu) to FX bin.
6. Go to Synth rack view. Right click grey area of the MIDI Guitar synth block and click "Enable MIDI Output".
That's it. Add your favourite synth to a new track and route MIDI input from MIDI Guitar, which should be visible in MIDI input menu.
Thanks for the detailed steps. But, I did all that and I do not get any output from guitar to synth. Not even in record enabled for the MIDI track.
Hmmmmmmm.
I'm on 64bit Win 7 with SONAR 64bit.
Bapu, I believe routing for this is similar to setting up the Kirnu Arp or Vocalizer (not sure if you've have these.....then again, I'd be surprised if you didn't  ). See if this youtube video from jhart might help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hIzD_GqV8s
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Re:Midi-Guitar Software
January 04, 13 3:00 PM
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Mesh, that did not help. Thanks mate.
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Re:Midi-Guitar Software
January 04, 13 3:09 PM
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This no workie.   I have KONTAKT with Session Strings loaded as the Synth Folder. The MIDI of the Synth Folder is set to MIDI GUITAR input (OMNI), Output of MIDI track is to KONTAKT instance 1.  
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January 04, 13 3:28 PM
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Bapu, in the "Insert Soft Synth Options" window (when you insert a new synth), try checking the box "Enable MIDI Output". (BTW, this is just a shot in the dark).... EDIT: Nevermind, I see that this is also done in that video on Kirnu and you've prolly done it.
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January 04, 13 3:29 PM
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Haven't got that worked out either Bapsi, If you launch the stand alone, it has an option to connect to DAW, that tells you to download MIDI loop and use that as your MIDI input in Sonar
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January 04, 13 3:32 PM
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Clifford, not sure if you've seen this yet, but the Fishman Tripple Play midi-controler seems to be the next best option. I don't think it's out yet, but it's really impressive......at least the way Burr Johnson made it look at NAMM 2012. This was designed by the same guy that built the Axon and it looks like it will leave the Roland GR series in the dark......I think it's around $300 for the Fishman.
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January 04, 13 3:38 PM
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You're welcome Clifford.
Once it comes out, I'd like to get it too (after the initial testing everyone does). I like the idea of playing 2 (or more) instruments at the same time via programming the strings......latency and sensitivity will be important factors.
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January 04, 13 3:57 PM
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Sad to report can't get it to work in Sonar here either. I'll keep an eye on it's development
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January 04, 13 4:01 PM
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Hi I found this on the Triple Play http://www.youtube.com/wa...dded&v=bCGruXRijp8 Have to say does look impressive - a few years back I tried a GR system, but to be honest I found it more trouble than it was worth. The one thing I would like to see before buying one of these is the midi transcription - with the GR system you got so many ghost notes etc it took ten times longer to correct than to do if from a keyboard from scratch - playing live was not too bad as long as you were ultra careful. But it was extremely limited in what you could get away with. One thing I can say, you could NEVER even attempt this sort of shredding on a GR system - not sure why you would want to, but I suppose it does show this new systems tracking capabilities. Apparently release has been delayed until 1st quarter 2013 - perhaps there are some little issues!!!! Nigel
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January 04, 13 4:02 PM
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Sad to report can't get it to work in Sonar here either. I'll keep an eye on it's development
NOt sure what I did differently but I got it to werk now. YAY!!!
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January 04, 13 4:14 PM
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I sussed it.
I already had loopBe1 (similar product to MIDI Loop that Grant mentioned above) installed. However I had loopBe1 disabled. Once I enabled it MIDI Guitar worked in SONAR as described.
I believe that this is due to the fact that SONAR is NOT a MIDI out capable DAW, IIRC.
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January 04, 13 4:20 PM
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If I configure it like the instructions above, record and input echo the track with MIDI Guitar in it, it works fine. Did have to go back and add the regedit bit after X2a because of the VST reset. I have been recording MIDI with it for a few days. If you do not want to record the MIDI but just want to drive a synth, you can use the Instrument Drop down in the second column to scan your VST synths and load it directly into MIDI Guitar. Or you can do both at the same time.
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January 04, 13 4:30 PM
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I have not tried it with Sonar yet. I got it to work as a standalone using DP with a martin. The bends don't work but I'm not sure DP is capable of that. I'll have to route it to the TTS-1. It's still got latency and it may need a hotter signal but so far it's not bad.
I don't like the UI. to bright and almost unreadable.
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January 04, 13 4:34 PM
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For anyone still having problems running in Sonar, make sure Input Echo is enabled on both the MIDI Guitar track and the soft synth track.
Some synths are more accurate than others. The True Pianos VST that comes with Sonar was pretty bad: extra notes, missing notes., etc., while Alchemy and z3ta were pretty much spot-on.
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January 04, 13 4:47 PM
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jma
For anyone still having problems running in Sonar, make sure Input Echo is enabled on both the MIDI Guitar track and the soft synth track.
Some synths are more accurate than others. The True Pianos VST that comes with Sonar was pretty bad: extra notes, missing notes., etc., while Alchemy and z3ta were pretty much spot-on.
Just curious. Do you have loopMIDI or loopBe1 (or a similar product) already installed? As I said above, this product only worked in SONAR after I enabled loopBe1.
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January 04, 13 4:51 PM
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I do not have an extra MIDI looping software on my machine. I do as jma, have input echo and record both the track with MIDI Guitar and the synth MIDI track.
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January 04, 13 4:56 PM
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I do not have an extra MIDI looping software on my machine. I do as jma, have input echo and record both the track with MIDI Guitar and the synth midi track.
I'm pretty sure I tried that. However, with loopBe1 enabled I do not need to have record or echo on for the MIDI Guitar (audio) track to now trigger the MIDI track and thus the synth. In fact I record an audio of the guitar track and did not record the MIDI and upon playback the audio track drove the synth. So, it seems you can just apply MIDI Guitar (as a synth FX bin insert) to any previously recorded guitar track and drive any synth (YMMV on the accuracy bssed on the quality of the recorded track).
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January 04, 13 5:00 PM
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So, is the $99.95 price the 30% off price or is there a coupon for the 30% off? I mean, $99.96 is 30% off $148.80. $148.80 seems an odd price point.
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January 04, 13 5:03 PM
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Woo hoo! It was the head up the old arse syndrome, got it working now. Far more accurate and sensitive than my Casio for chords. Much more responsive than my Sonuus G2M hardware. It will pick up every note of a fast lick where the G2M had lag and missed notes at fast speed. Payday it's mine.
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