Hi ____ do you save your TTS-1 User Normal settings?

So what you have to do is immediately after you open the project... as in, BEFORE YOU HIT PLAY you need to switch your patch selection to "none".

ORIGINAL: ronniebuss2

I also had this problem. I would tweak a sound, save it in a user slot and set up the track to choose that sound. When I would open the file and press play the sound would revert back to the original sound. I called CW and they told me to eliminate the track patch choice. Huh??? They told me to choose none as the patch. Sure enough that worked. I still don't understand that. Any one else out there have a guess as to why this is?
Ron

ORIGINAL: ronniebuss2

I also had this problem. I would tweak a sound, save it in a user slot and set up the track to choose that sound. When I would open the file and press play the sound would revert back to the original sound. I called CW and they told me to eliminate the track patch choice. Huh??? They told me to choose none as the patch. Sure enough that worked. I still don't understand that. Any one else out there have a guess as to why this is?
Ron

ORIGINAL: Bob Damiano [Cakewalk]

So what you have to do is immediately after you open the project... as in, BEFORE YOU HIT PLAY you need to switch your patch selection to "none".

I was about to reply with this but I see you figured it out. It's a known issue with TTS-1 (in fact I think I logged it myself).

ORIGINAL: Kevinlane

OK, got it going, it entails needing to LOAD the user bank when you startup the program/project again

ORIGINAL: mike_mccue

I checked this morning.

If you go through the routine descibed above each time you make a User patch and set the patch to "none" you may have multiple instances of "none" which are somehow saved within the project with the custom parameter settings that you saved. You just can't use them anywhere else.

So you cannot effectively build or utilize a useful User Normal bank unless you save them custom as decribed by ronnie.

Cakewalks only solution is for you to do the beta work arounds. Not what I need, this is a known issue in sonar home 6/6xl sonar 6/sonar7 and although logged with Cakewalk as basic as this is to fix they have not come up with a solution. Is this supposed to be some sucker punch. If I were cakewalk I would want to deal with this embarrassing situation as quick as possible. I mean coe on set it to NONE. Pro application not acceptable at all. I cannot have the stiff upper lip with this one.

This Problem with TTS-1 Synth has been around since Sonar 5 circa 2005, it is now 2008 and it's still Buggy yet Cakewalk bring out Features like CD Burning and Publishing - I mean How many Pro users actually asked for that ?, in it's current format it's a feature for Home Users, Wavelab and DVD Architect are professional CD Publishing programs. Sonar relies on the Imapi Windows Drivers which are Basic to say the least Unlike Wavelab and DVD Arcitect that use dedicated drivers.

We keep getting a new Version every year, Yet we have a Buggy Playlist, Buggy Metronome, Buggy Interpolate, Buggy TTS-1, 3rd rate scoring facilities and much much more. These are things that should have been addressed long before all the new Gimmicky features that Pro's don't use were stuck in. It seems like they are trying to impress the Wrong Market with some of these Gimmicky features. The Products name is Sonar Producer edition these Gimmicks should have been put into Sonar Home Studio. Cakewalks image in a lot of Professional Studios that I deal with is that of a good Product that still has a long way to go to the Big league. I think Cakewalk will struggle to get close to a 100% Professional Image while they continue letting the Basics problems and inadequacies of Sonar Slide through the Cracks. Don't get me wrong I love Sonar and Cakewalk but I also have to sell the products and come up against a lot of Embarassing arguments that should have been fixed long ago and never seem to get done. Maybe with Rolands influence in the Months to come we'll get some serious Bug fixing done or maybe not

ORIGINAL: mike_mccue

So,
Does anyone know how long this nasty bug has been left unattended too?

first off, thanks for the tips guys.

So I saved my user patch:



And you can see it was added to the User Normal Patch list:



Then I save and close the project.

Then I open the project... and my user patch is gone:




As you can see it has disapeared from the list:



The real problem seems to be that if you hit play or go searching for your missing patch you WILL LOSE ALL THE PRESET DATA FOR THAT PATCH which really sucks... big time.

So what you have to do is immediately after you open the project... as in, BEFORE YOU HIT PLAY you need to switch your patch selection to "none". Does anyone know why this is?



In the past I'd noticed squirrely behavior with TTS-1 patch selections.

I haven't fully explored the ramifications of this buggish behaviour. For example; what happens if you have 2 or more custom patches? Do you set them all to "none"? Another Example; what happens if you mistakenly assign the same TTS-1 channel to another track? I think that anhilates the user preset and you are screwed... I haven't tried to screw myself yet... but a quick test suggests that this is the case.

Are we all just SONAR beta testers these days? I keep trying to make music and find myself spending more and more time learning work arounds than I think should be neccesary.

Any comments or suggestions? I'd welcome them.

best regards,
mike