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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
2015/06/01 06:58:56
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I think I figured out the popcorn problem. Instead of dragging a single hit of the kick .wav file into DR. I think I had several instances of the sample or I created a .wav file that had many hits of the kick on it. It just dawned on my that the image in the default DR wave window viewer thingy, has one single wave file or wave image in it. The .wav file I dragged into DR appears to have six or seven wave files or wave image in it. So the default looks like one single kick hit. My dragged .wav looks like six or seven kick hits. Here I was sitting in my office working on something and it just kinda hit me. I can't wait to get home and check this out, but I think that is the problem.
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
2015/06/01 10:53:35
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If using the wav profiler internal to AD2, I have gotten into the habit of dragging into an audio track (one hit, and wait for the record to stop). From there, rename the clip, slip-edit, normalize (the audio you will get at 127 for a midi fire), and bounce. Then can move it into a sampler without issues (just be sure the start/end are at zero crossings - the "pop" often happens if the clip starts/ends with some amplitude). If want that piece for other uses, can move to a media browser folder; but with the above, it will "live" in the project's audio folder (which is usually sufficient).
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
2015/06/11 11:31:38
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Bill Jackson [Cakewalk] I just hacked together a little tool that automates the process a bit. I'll share a link. But a big disclaimer: this is not an officially sanctioned Cakewalk utility. It's an unofficially unsanctioned, might break your computer, no guarantees, no promises, batteries not included, Bill Jackson personal hack job. Proceed at your own risk and with caution. Now that inviting preamble is out of the way: https://www.dropbox.com/s.../CwDrSfzMaker.zip?dl=0l This utility should simplify the process of sampling drum synths for use with Cakewalk Drum Replacer. It digests a string of hits in a 24bit wave file and installs them to the Drum Replacer content locations in the correct format. 32 velocity levels are saved in the multisample. The source file should have 32 hits, crescendoing, separated by exactly 2 seconds each. Included is a SONAR project that can serve as a template. Steps: 1. Open included project: "DrumSamplerTemplate.cwp" 2. Insert the drum instrument of your choice and choose the kit you'd like to sample 3. Adjust the repeating MIDI note to play the kit piece that you want 4. Export a 24bit wave 5. Open the CwDrSfzMaker.exe utility 6. Type in a name for your sample 7. Specify a type 8. Click "Browse..." and locate the file you exported in step 4 9. Click "Make It" At this point, you can instantiate Drum Replacer, navigate to the "User" section in the sample list, and locate your new content. I hope I'm not just confusing things further :-\.
Hi Bill... Thanks for creating and explaining this util... I would love to try it but when I click the link Dropbox reports the file missing or changed... Is there a new link available? Keni
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
2015/06/11 12:21:00
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Keni Hi Bill...
Thanks for creating and explaining this util... I would love to try it but when I click the link Dropbox reports the file missing or changed... Is there a new link available?
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Yes, expired link. I'm always a day late and a dollar short lol. Thank you!
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
2015/06/11 13:05:24
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Bill Jackson [Cakewalk] I just hacked together a little tool that automates the process a bit. I'll share a link.
I missed this thread when it was active. This is cool and potentially very useful tool. Thanks for sharing, Bill. I just wanted to add my $.02 that, in most cases, I would think the fastest path to glory is simply to extract the MIDI using DR (or Audiosnap or Melodyne), and pop it into a MIDI track pointing to the drum synth of your choice. This ensures that you can take full advantage of the synth's velocity layering and possibly more advanced features like round-robin of same-velocity multisamples (IIRC, AD2 does both). It also lets you fix any timing issues, and tweak velocity to suit the synth's response.
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
2015/06/11 14:38:57
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Bill Jackson [Cakewalk] Updated link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vqq5iujmpsspwhf/CwDrSfzMaker.zip?dl=0
Thanks Bill... This seems a handy tool... I'll bet you get to add it or something like it to Drum Replacer (or Sonar) itself in an upcoming update! ??? ;-) Keni ...and just a note, better late than never? ...and not even close to being too late to be helpful! ;-)
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
2015/06/11 14:51:20
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Keni Thanks Bill...
This seems a handy tool... I'll bet you get to add it or something like it to Drum Replacer (or Sonar) itself in an upcoming update! ???
;-)
Keni
I'd like to. But as others have said, the MIDI drag/drop functionality is the designed solution for this. Plus: it's difficult to determine where functionality like this would live... Right in SONAR? Or do we create a MIDI output and an audio input for Drum Replacer, so it can play out MIDI notes and record in the results? Where does it tap in - post FX? How do you do the routing in general? Pretty hard to design a simple solution (I've tried). I wouldn't count on seeing a built-in solution any time soon. There are bigger Drum Replacer fish to fry. Like user-inserted hit markers, FLAC support, etc.
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
2015/06/11 15:13:32
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Keni Thanks Bill...
This seems a handy tool... I'll bet you get to add it or something like it to Drum Replacer (or Sonar) itself in an upcoming update! ???
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Keni
I'd like to. But as others have said, the MIDI drag/drop functionality is the designed solution for this. Plus: it's difficult to determine where functionality like this would live... Right in SONAR? Or do we create a MIDI output and an audio input for Drum Replacer, so it can play out MIDI notes and record in the results? Where does it tap in - post FX? How do you do the routing in general? Pretty hard to design a simple solution (I've tried). I wouldn't count on seeing a built-in solution any time soon. There are bigger Drum Replacer fish to fry. Like user-inserted hit markers, FLAC support, etc.
Hi Bill... What about building into DR... The ability to read an audio stream input? Then simply using a little midi file to generate the hits and sending the selected synth output into the DR input would be an easy job? But I understand priorities and such... In the meantime, your solution appears to get the job done relatively easily though I haven't tried it yet! ;-) Thanks again! Keni
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
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Hate to be "that guy", but I get failure to launch on Win7 Home Premium x64 with "System.IO.DirectoryNotFound". Executable is only 16kB; is that right? EDIT: I guess if all it does is read fixed size chunks of data out of a file, and write them to new ones, using libraries for the GUI, that could be right.
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
2015/06/11 15:53:34
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I don't know if this will help or was mentioned. AD2 can give you audio samples that you can drag into a timeline. I don't know how Drum replacer works but if it accepts audio clips, then your ready to go. You will have to figure it out but on the bottom left of the AD2 UI, you can record the sounds. Those sounds can be put into the timeline. I remember seeing it done but can't remember anything further than that so I hope this helps.
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
2015/06/11 16:02:21
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brundlefly Hate to be "that guy", but I get failure to launch on Win7 Home Premium x64 with "System.IO.DirectoryNotFound". Executable is only 16kB; is that right? EDIT: I guess if all it does is read fixed size chunks of data out of a file, and write them to new ones, using libraries for the GUI, that could be right.
I have no idea... Try re-downloading. I made a change that might help. Yes. Very small.
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
2015/06/11 16:49:34
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Hmmm... still no go. Might try on another machine later. No biggie for the moment. I was more curious than anything. But it could come in handy if I can get it running.
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
2015/06/11 18:07:41
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I guess I'm "that other guy" in that case lol .... win7 pro x64 Under admin or not .. with sonar open or not. And with a fresh download. The cwt file opens up my bjackson dir perfectly though. lol
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
2015/06/11 18:15:30
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Thanks Sausy very informative indeed. Keep up the good work. Regards Glenville
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
2015/06/11 18:24:50
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No worries man. I find it useful cos you can get tweak things inside AD2 to get the sample exactly like you want it for the particular song your working on, also you can use the link function in AD2 and blend 2 kicks or 2 snares together using the flexi channels.
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
2015/06/11 18:29:52
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sylent I guess I'm "that other guy" in that case lol .... win7 pro x64 Under admin or not .. with sonar open or not. And with a fresh download. The cwt file opens up my bjackson dir perfectly though. lol
Tried another tweak. Re-download and let me know. Please remember: this thing is expected to be total crap. Just sharing a little utility I made for myself. :)
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
2015/06/11 18:41:00
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sylent I guess I'm "that other guy" in that case lol .... win7 pro x64 Under admin or not .. with sonar open or not. And with a fresh download. The cwt file opens up my bjackson dir perfectly though. lol
Tried another tweak. Re-download and let me know. Please remember: this thing is expected to be total crap. Just sharing a little utility I made for myself. :)
I always expect crap .. then there's no place to go but up. lmao But seriously, effort is never crap, and it's appreciated no matter what in my book. Edit: It opens for me now. I'll play with it in depth asap. Thanks Bill!!
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
2015/06/11 18:53:53
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Its working on windows 7 64bit computer. Thanks for the tools.
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
2015/06/11 19:33:54
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Yes, the latest one's a go for me as well, and my first "Jackson Extracksion" was successful. Thanks for taking the time, Bill.
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Re: How To Load A Kick Sample From Addictive Drums To Drum Replacer
2015/06/11 19:46:38
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sausy1981 Hi guys, I did a quick video on this on my youtube channel. https://youtu.be/RluAdlhq3D4
Great job! I'll have to eyeball some of your other interesting looking vids as well.... subscribed. Thanks!
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