Bill Hester
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RE: How do I remove empty space at the start of a project?
2008/01/15 15:01:29
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I'm at a loss to understand why anybody would want to try and remove space in the project file, at the beginning or end. I mean, why?
I feel obligated to answer this, since I started the thread!
I'm betting I'm not the only person who wants to finish a mix, then burn a CD and listen to it in the car / beat box etc etc etc before moving along to the mastering process? My frustration was that I just happened to have 8-10 secs of silence before the song started, and it made the A/Bing of different CDs with different variations of the mix very irritating to do. I'm relatively new to this whole thing, and haven't 'learned' my monitors well enough to trust them yet ;)
Hope that answers the question....and thanks for you're respective points of view
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RE: How do I remove empty space at the start of a project?
2008/01/15 15:11:52
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ORIGINAL: Bill Hester
ISecondly wow is that maybe this wasn't such a dumb question after all! I do use envelopes a lot so selecting all and dragging isn't going to work for me. When I have exported audio to create the final wav file, I have tried setting the 'now' time to the opening bar, however it always renders the whole thing from the very start..... Not clear how the above advice differs from what I've done in the past?
After selecting all tracks, select the bars between beginning and ending of the song, then export audio (bounce)
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RE: How do I remove empty space at the start of a project?
2008/01/15 15:27:42
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Now that's a great question because it asks "why can't we move an audio file together with it's envelopes?" Come on Cakewalk that would be something. That's the big problem exporting as OMF files, no envelopes. Can you imagine exporting an OMF file in Sonar with envelopes and being able to import with envelopes into Logic or Pro Tools? wow that would be something else. I fear the different protocols would find difficulty in reading that, unless envelopes could be somehow standardised like wav files and midi.
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RE: How do I remove empty space at the start of a project?
2008/01/15 15:48:50
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I ask this question a bit back, I dont like to eliminate or move lots o tracks. My fav answer is: You can also place a marker at the place you want to start your export. (F11 is the shortcut key to add a marker). Ctrl-A in the track view to select all. Then click on the marker in the markers view, and your selection will adjust to that marker's point. You can also set an End marker, so that when you click on your beginning marker you selection will be adjusted to between the two. Here is the thread with other suggestions: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=659871&mpage=1&key=
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RE: How do I remove empty space at the start of a project?
2008/01/15 15:50:36
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I think if you hit CTRL and drag down all your Track Numbers, all data plus envelopes will be selected, then just drag all that data to the left as many measures as you'd like.
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Bill Hester
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RE: How do I remove empty space at the start of a project?
2008/01/15 15:58:21
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I hesitate to say but....that sounds like the simplest solution yet Tonester. Will this move all the envelopes and automation too?
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RE: How do I remove empty space at the start of a project?
2008/01/15 16:50:52
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I must be missing something. I have succesfully done what the original poster is asking by selecting all my clips, cutting by ctrl-X-ing, and clicking all the boxes to include track and clip enevelopes. Then I paste everything back starting at 0:0:0. I am not at my DAW, so I don't remember for sure if this also moves track envelopes. Can anyone confirm?
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RE: How do I remove empty space at the start of a project?
2008/01/15 17:10:49
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Hi Bill,
A couple of people have said this, and I have to agree - there really is no need to delete the silence and slide everything over in the project - just snip off the start of the exported WAV file - you could even just take it back into Sonar to do that, re-export it and overwrite the WAV.
Plus - if the silence is gone, and then you have an idea for a cool intro (like Bitflipper said) you'll have to slide it all the other way again!
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RE: How do I remove empty space at the start of a project?
2008/01/15 17:17:47
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☄ Helpfulby Bluenote 2018/01/14 19:34:05
You can do ctrl-click and drag in the timeline to set the selected region to whatever you want. ctrl-click at the end of your project and then drag over to the left until you pass the start. Zoom in to fine tune. No need to export from a 'select all'.
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Re: RE: How do I remove empty space at the start of a project?
2018/02/15 01:23:45
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Super easy - choose the "Move" tool, third tool icon from top left, select all (cntrl A) and just drag it over.
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Re: RE: How do I remove empty space at the start of a project?
2018/02/15 02:10:05
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dcmike
Super easy - choose the "Move" tool, third tool icon from top left...
You've just replied to a question that was posted 10 years ago. I'm not sure whether your description of the move tool is applicable to Sonar 7 anyway.
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Re: RE: How do I remove empty space at the start of a project?
2018/02/16 02:00:05
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Hi,
Bring the mouse to where the space is in the front and drag it towards where your recording starts. YOu may want to leave a little space so that when you burn a CD, MP3, etc., the music just won't start as soon as you play it. You should see a shaded area. Then go to the menu field on top and click Edit. Look for Delete Special. A window will pop up, click the check box for Delete Hole then click OK. This will delete the space. If you deleted too much no worries, hold down the Ctrl key and press Z for Undo and try it again. Hope this helps!
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Re: RE: How do I remove empty space at the start of a project?
2018/02/16 02:35:09
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What I do is leave all the tracks where they are from the original recordings.
Then after, Bounce to Track(s), I trim the extra space at the beginning and usually add a fade at the end.
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Re: RE: How do I remove empty space at the start of a project?
2018/02/16 13:36:38
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Isn't this why we were given Ripple editing ?
Not for Sonar 7 (Cant believe im responding to this 10 year old thread) but in Platinum, it takes literally 15 seconds. Markers and tempo changes move accordingly as well.
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