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October 09, 16 3:41 PM (permalink)

How to position a marker to sample accuracy?

I am working with samples and have my ruler, the main NowTime display and the time display on the left all set to Samples.
 
But whenever I want to set a marker it will only position it more or less around the Now cursor.
 
Markers appear to be time-based only and cannot be told to position themselves over a sample.
I deduce that from the dialog which has an edit box where I can enter a position manually - but only to a particular time.
 
Is there any way to change this? I want to mark where the attack of a guitar chord starts with a view to selecting one of a number of such attack points later. 
 
 
 
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    Re: How to position a marker to sample accuracy? October 09, 16 3:59 PM (permalink)
    I believe you are correct. I had asked this question a while back and Brundlefly confirmed there was no was to place a marker with sample accuracy. It does land within a dozen samples or so, so is unclear that in your situation if that is not suitable.
     
    In my case, I had literally edited a sample to disprove an assertion that a single sample modification is audible. Turned out that single sample alteration made the audio engines of a DAW insert white noise for several hundred samples on either side (which is audible). As I went back into the original file to find the edit, the marker I put in would only drop about 7 samples away which was close enough to find it later.

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    Re: How to position a marker to sample accuracy? October 09, 16 6:47 PM (permalink)
    Thanks for responding.
     
    Funny, because the clip snipping dialog allows you to choose the measure type you want to use. And looping positions its flags on samples, from what I can see.
     
    Anyway, not a major problem. Just odd.
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    Re: How to position a marker to sample accuracy? October 09, 16 6:56 PM (permalink)
    True... it doesn't affect actual clip work, only marker positions. Since we rely on splitting at zero crossings, that would cause issues.
     
    Have you actually tried your chords in practice? I have dropped markers willy-nilly in songs before and jumped between them without issues. Is it more that you are trying to use this for composition?

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    Re: How to position a marker to sample accuracy? October 09, 16 10:49 PM (permalink)
    I've always found 1 ms to be sufficient resolution for markers. OTOH hand being able to trim clips and loops for sample accuracy, which SONAR can do, was a big deal back in the day before stretching became commonplace. People using loops expected trimming to be sample accurate to the stated tempo.

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