Hype

I have made some serious progress with  Deep  (my upcoming SONAR customization tool). Soon nobody needs to request Cakewalk for better customization. I'm doing a 'What You see Is What You Get' style SONAR X1 graphics interface editor. I can load my old mods (no need to use patchers anymore) and it allows you to replace graphics of the interface freely by yourself. 
Images can be loaded from files, copyied from clipboard, imported from DLL files and they can be edited by an external image editor straight from my utility.  Deep is like 'sonarmods meets Ben's Skin Editor'. 

But this was only one feature of Deep. It can also 

- Revert SONAR to factory theme with a single command
- import/export SONAR registry entries
- handle SONAR's recent files in an unique way
- edit colors with a new, very easy and fast interface that has totally different design than in SONAR
- change wallpaper like in SONAR but it remembers your last used custom bitmap
- full featured Key Bindings Editor with all kind of search and filter features
- full featured Utilities Menu editor
- AUD.INI browser
- content and user paths editor 
- Instrument Definitions browser
- Product Keys viewer
- SONAR General Settings
- Track View Settings
- Track Template Import Settings
- Audio Snap Options
- Big Time Options (featuring similiar GUI than in SONAR, just for fun)
- Freeze Settings
- Insert Synth Options
- Paste Options
- Plug-in Menu Layouts
- PRV Tools Options
- Explore SONAR Installation folder, Application Data Folder,  Picture Cache, Mini Dumps, Metronome Sounds, Drum Maps,  WMV Profiles and Sysx files
- Maintenance: Clear Picture Cache by age: you can delete files that are over 7, 30, 60, 180 or 360 days old.  Or all. 
- Open Cakewalk Problem Reporter WWW Page. Not a big deal but it copies your serial number to clipboard if you did not have it in browser's cache.
- View version that you used to save CWP project file.
- Check Installed Sonar version.
- I almost forgot: X1 does not show you if automatic crossfades are on or off. I found this disturbing but not anymore because Deep shows crossfades setting in its toolbar and status bar while SONAR is running.  Toolbar icon features all fade in & out settings with icons.

In Themes Editor you can
- Pick any of my mods from dropdown list and change SONAR looks in a second
- Edit single objects of the interface - load from file, dll or edit current image by your image editor
- Copy / Paste images 
- Save images from the current theme as files
- Make your own Themes: Deep uses ordinary file system structure for Themes. Make a copy of an existing theme and make it better yourself.

I hope you will enjoy this little utility as much as I have enjoyed while designing it. At first I had to create a program which could change some file paths without need to use Windows Registry Editor but as you see, I added a few other features, too. 
No promises of first beta release yet - I find  too many bugs but I work VERY hard to get it out.


Thanks for your interest ;-). 

Wow

Holy crap!! :) Excellent news!!!! Panu, you're a whizard :) Thank you for all your hard work! (-Damn this firefox formatting error thing!) Per

I wonder if X1 Expanded will impact all the work Panu is doing?

panup

John


I wonder if X1 Expanded will impact all the work Panu is doing? 

I'm confident I can make Deep compatible with X1 Expanded - if I decide to purchase it. 
Deep can already import my old mods to the newest version. It's design language and SONAR subversion independent.
Actually X1 Expanded demo video gave me a new idea how to arrange the Skylight Editor. 

I knew it would not phase you. Ah, one thing you use "subversion" in the post. I would not use that term about X1. LOL. Look it up! 

panup

John



I knew it would not phase you. Ah, one thing you use "subversion" in the post. I would not use that term about X1. LOL. Look it up!  

I referred to X1 a...c  updates because they're have been new versions to me in mod building context. 

I know what you meant. The word subversion has a meaning and not what you intended. If you make two words of it all would be well.

"Subversion" means to destroy, to undermine, to overthrow. "Sub version" means a version subservient to another.

It is a minor thing and I look at it as a very funny usage.

John

"Subversion" means to destroy, to undermine, to overthrow. "Sub version" means a version subservient to another.

It is a minor thing and I look at it as a very funny usage.

Funny how one, tiny space between two characters can make such a big difference!
Sorry my bad English, it's my 3rd language. ;-)

panup

John

"Subversion" means to destroy, to undermine, to overthrow. "Sub version" means a version subservient to another.

It is a minor thing and I look at it as a very funny usage.

Funny how one, tiny space between two characters can make such a big difference!
Sorry my bad English, it's my 3rd language. ;-)

No, I found it hilarious. No one could have viewed it in any other light. You do far and away better than me in using another language. Heck, I barely know English and its my native language. LOL

I figured as much. German is like that too. I have thought the way you in Europe do that makes a lot of sense. 

What a wonderful way to start my day... Excellent news Panu. I see you've been working hard...

The program is truly becoming an extraordinary work... Many thanks is the least I can give... I hope more...

Keni

Somebody, make this man President.

I'll be crazy happy to see something like VST-like control module for external hardware synths, where you can add all the control kob just the way you do in in "unbinded" instrument rack.

Not mentioning tool for doing ACT Control Surface definitions tailored to your (or my) controller

but it gonna be cool day in hell if/when Cakewalk will dd such support for hardware.

adrian4u


I'll be crazy happy to see something like VST-like control module for external hardware synths, where you can add all the control kob just the way you do in in "unbinded" instrument rack.

Not mentioning tool for doing ACT Control Surface definitions tailored to your (or my) controller

but it gonna be cool day in hell if/when Cakewalk will dd such support for hardware.

Currently you ask too much from me - controller surfaces require C++ knowledge and currently I do my stuff with VB.net and later maybe with C#.
Make a Feature Request. Cakewalk is full of talented programmers but currently they think SONAR is ready and they just spend time in CW HQ. Feature Requests may inspire them. 

panup

adrian4u


I'll be crazy happy to see something like VST-like control module for external hardware synths, where you can add all the control kob just the way you do in in "unbinded" instrument rack.

Not mentioning tool for doing ACT Control Surface definitions tailored to your (or my) controller

but it gonna be cool day in hell if/when Cakewalk will dd such support for hardware.

Currently you ask too much from me - controller surfaces require C++ knowledge and currently I do my stuff with VB.net and later maybe with C#.
Make a Feature Request. Cakewalk is full of talented programmers but currently they think SONAR is ready and they just spend time in CW HQ. Feature Requests may inspire them. 

I ment something to make doing "my own" presets for ACT.
As you maybe know, I have Behringer BCF2000 (in mckie mode) and BCR2000 (ACT or AJ surface), and I'm totally angry because of ACT control surface for BCR is totally ****ed up.
I'd like to see that these controllers work together with cooperation - not BCR is doubling some of the functions of BCF....
 
Main disadvantage with ACT is that it can handle just 16 controllers at once, and I have 32 knobs + 28 buttons AT ONCE....
For now I'm thinking about custom definition for controller or made two "virtual" controllers from one BCR

Panup,
With all your capability I wonder why you don't create your own DAW. You certainly seem to know what people want and you seem to know your way around programming. Why not create a software "dock" for a range of DAWs... a program that would serve as a host and as integration for several DAWs or audio programs so one could use the strong points of several DAWs in one host program... yours.
Or... just create, with help if you need it, a new DAW and my input would be in two versions, one catering to those who mainly do audio recording and the other to those who mainly do everything "in the box".
I don't know a lot but I think there may be a market niche for someone who is willing and able to make what people really want in a DAW... not that I am not happy with Sonar, I am and probably would not be a customer but, from the reception you get from many people. I think you could be really sucessful with either a VERY flexable and customizable GUI or a platform that would integrate several different programs (DAWs) in one host program.
Then again maybe I am just delerious... but I don't see why you don't create something that you can sell and make some good money. Of course I hope you will continue to do what you are doing that makes people so happy!
 
Julien