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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/04 15:23:43 (permalink)
I believe the goal is to keep adding to it little by little until it takes up all of the space in whatever room it resides.
 

The dream.
 

Reality...
 

 
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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/05 09:57:32 (permalink)
Where is that Craig?
 
I don't think I'd be able to leave once having entered...

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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/05 10:19:37 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby synkrotron 2016/12/06 16:48:25
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Where is that Craig?
 
I don't think I'd be able to leave once having entered...




Then, for your sake, I won't tell you. 
(The fact that I don't know might come into play too...)

 
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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/05 12:52:10 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby synkrotron 2016/12/06 16:48:31
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Reality...
 




The scary part is how much you end up spending just on those cables.
 
At first when your system is small you have no use for longer cables as they just get in the way. Then when you add 2 more rows you don't have enough cables that reach... 

 In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/05 15:45:20 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby craigb 2016/12/05 16:25:16
Craigb isn't one to brag, but he's obviously snagged a picture of CJ's modular synth room. 
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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/05 16:25:48 (permalink)
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Craigb isn't one to brag, but he's obviously snagged a picture of CJ's modular synth room. 




The smaller room. 

 
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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/06 16:50:25 (permalink)
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The scary part is how much you end up spending just on those cables.

 
Haha! Yeah, I've just received a little bag of them Mutable Instrument cables. Rather nice, I must admit. They look and feel much better than the standard Deopfer ones
 
Oh... I've also just received the Expert Sleepers Disting Mk3 module. I've not even scratched the surface of that thing yet but I wanted to know how its VCO sounded:-
 
https://soundcloud.com/sy...n/somemadexperiment005

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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/06 18:15:04 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby synkrotron 2016/12/08 04:26:35
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Oh... I've also just received the Expert Sleepers Disting Mk3 module. I've not even scratched the surface of that thing yet but I wanted to know how its VCO sounded:-
 
https://soundcloud.com/sy...n/somemadexperiment005




Sounds nice!
 
I'm actually up to 3 Distings - a mk2 and I just recently got my 2nd mk3 after he added even more stuff, including implementing a 2nd parameter addition I personally asked for - and if you're using the octave shift parameter on the VCO, you're welcome because that was the 1st.   And make sure you ask in the MW thread if you want something added, because he's been pretty awesome about adding stuff people suggested - from simple parameter additions, to the sample playback stuff (!), to the new favourites list which makes stuff so much easier to find.
 
On my to do list is to go through the endless loop .wavs I've accumulated over the years (without ever really using) and put some on memory cards for Disting. 

 In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/08 04:29:32 (permalink)
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I'm actually up to 3 Distings



Yeah, three sounds a good combination. And you've still only used a total of 12HP, which is quite amazing given the tools you then have at your disposal
 
I doubt I will use all of its tools, although I will certainly give them at least a bit of a go. I haven't a clue what most of them do haha!

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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/08 07:51:23 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby synkrotron 2016/12/18 04:27:14
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I've also just received the Expert Sleepers Disting Mk3 module.




And so it begins, hope you have plans on some extensions to the house Andy.

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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/08 13:09:55 (permalink)
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I'm actually up to 3 Distings



Yeah, three sounds a good combination. And you've still only used a total of 12HP, which is quite amazing given the tools you then have at your disposal
 



I like smaller modules and sort of found that the quantizer and quite a few of the other algorithms are pretty competitive with dedicated modules - and he keeps adding more stuff - so the main down side for me is the UI.
 

I doubt I will use all of its tools, although I will certainly give them at least a bit of a go. I haven't a clue what most of them do haha!


 
The individual videos for them are short and good if you haven't watched them yet.

 In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/08 13:14:46 (permalink)
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I've also just received the Expert Sleepers Disting Mk3 module.




And so it begins, hope you have plans on some extensions to the house Andy.




 
I tell myself I might be done once I fill the space I currently have remaining.
 
But I'm sure some tempting new stuff will be shown at NAMM (and whatever comes after that) and I also know Olivier (Mutable Instruments) has some as yet completely unknown stuff (he generally doesn't reveal much until it's ready for release) coming in the mid-year 2017. 

 In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/15 09:32:42 (permalink)
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hope you have plans on some extensions to the house Andy.



We'll be alright for a bit... Kids have left home so we have a few more rooms to move into
 
drewfx1
so the main down side for me is the UI.



Yeah, the UI is pretty hard to get my head around. I mean, it's not like it's rocket science or anything, it's just a pain remembering the steps to  choose algorithms and change/set parameters.
 
So far I have only been using the two different VCO and the quantiser.
 
And we've now got two
 
Plus a Mutable Instruments Warps.
 
And, to sync my existing MIDI hardware and add some sequencer power to the setup, we've gone for a BeatStep Pro.
 
But that's it now till 2017...
 
Wait a minute... 2017 is nearly hear, so that could be a problem!

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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/15 10:19:59 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby synkrotron 2016/12/18 04:27:48
Andy, the big question is.......will you still be dreaming of wires in 2017? 

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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/15 11:53:21 (permalink)
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Andy, the big question is.......will you still be dreaming of wires in 2017? 




Probably more like nightmares of being trapped surrounded by wires! 

 
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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/15 13:05:24 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby synkrotron 2016/12/18 04:27:57
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And we've now got two 

 

 

Plus a Mutable Instruments Warps.
 



Make sure you install the Parasites alt firmware - it adds some nice stuff and unlike some other alt firmwares, there's almost no downside in this case. And it makes it so much easier to get to the frequency shifter* easter egg, which is glorious.
 
*Not to be confused with a pitch shifter.

 In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/18 04:32:59 (permalink)
Hi Drew,
 
Thanks for the heads up on the Warps Parasites. I'll have a look into that. It seems that MI are cool with all the alt firmware stuff but are quite clear on the fact that if messing with the module in this way "bricks" it then they charge for fixing, which I suppose is fair enough.
 
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Andy, the big question is.......will you still be dreaming of wires in 2017? 




As long as I am still breathing Mesh!

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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/18 13:54:32 (permalink)
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Hi Drew,
 
Thanks for the heads up on the Warps Parasites. I'll have a look into that. It seems that MI are cool with all the alt firmware stuff but are quite clear on the fact that if messing with the module in this way "bricks" it then they charge for fixing, which I suppose is fair enough.



You're unlikely to have a problem with bricking - I think most of the issues that some early alt-firmware experimentation revealed have been diagnosed and it's more of just a warning now. I looked at it carefully and wouldn't have played with alt firmwares on my MI modules myself - much less recommend them - if I felt there was a concern.
 
And in this this case you get a lot of new stuff, easy access to the frequency shifter easter egg and the UI is very straightforward compared to some of the alt firmwares for other modules:
 
http://mqtthiqs.github.io/parasites/warps.html
 
 
Note though that it is sometimes a little tricky to get playback device level just exactly right to get a firmware update to take, but that's just a question of repeating (and sometimes repeating) until you get it right. Definitely do not worry if it takes a few tries to get it right - if it starts but doesn't complete successfully just adjust the level a little and try again. If it doesn't work at all, some people have had a playback device/SW that was messing with the signal by adding effects or whatever, but for me it's just been a matter of following the directions carefully and getting the playback level right. That's just the cost of doing firmware updates using an audio wave file - it works well, but the levels have to be right and the audio has to be played back unadulterated.
 
And note that you will generally need to do the calibration routine after changing firmwares, but that's not a big deal provided you have the proper voltage sources.

 In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/19 17:24:25 (permalink)
Thanks for the info Drew.

I must admit that the word "calibration" sounds a bit scary, coupled with the phrase "proper voltage sources." I will have to do more research before going ahead with any firmware updates.

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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/19 20:50:11 (permalink)
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Thanks for the info Drew.

I must admit that the word "calibration" sounds a bit scary, coupled with the phrase "proper voltage sources."



It's not really a big issue - MI modules are just looking for 1V and 3V inputs to calibrate the pitch tracking, and in the 1V/octave scheme those voltages correspond to two C notes two octaves apart and can be from any reasonable CV source. 
 
The only issue some people have is that MI specifies those notes/octaves as C2 and C4, but with some midi interfaces or controllers or whatever things are an octave off and it's really C3 and C5 (or whatever) that end up corresponding to 1 and 3 volts. It's a no brainer for those of us who happen to have a digital multimeter (DMM) lying around, but needless to say, not everyone does so they just have to figure out which octave of C equals 1V. 
 
Or you can just try it and then see if the built-in VCO in Warps tracks pitch properly. Calibration is part of the learning curve in a modular if you want it to track properly and play in tune with other instruments.

 In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/20 03:08:56 (permalink)
Thanks again Drew.

I do have a multi Meyer as it happens so that first thing to do is experiment with that, which is something I have been meaning to do anyway.

Is it safe to assume that ground is negative and that on the outputs the sleeve is ground and therefore the tip is positive?

I've only been working on the sound aspect of our system so it is about time that I paid attention to those voltages anyway...

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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/20 03:09:25 (permalink)
Oops... Double post...

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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/21 10:33:13 (permalink)
Made some attenuators:-
 

 


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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/22 15:18:57 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby synkrotron 2016/12/23 04:40:12
Needed something to do with old phone cable? 

 
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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/23 04:41:09 (permalink)
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Needed something to do with old phone cable? 




Yeah... I'd kept that old phone cable for a lot of years, just in case of such a project

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Re: I dreamt of wires! 2016/12/23 12:23:50 (permalink)
Hi,

...
 
There was a very strange and weird film done by Peter Weir, that was called "The Plumber" ... and you have to see it to believe it ... it's short, but it is a total trip ... and it makes this wiring harness look kinda ... tame!

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