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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/28 12:26:55
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I have to agree with John T on this. Sure, you can buy an enormous bundle and the price per plugin is low. But how many of those plugins do you actually use, and how many of them did you actually need before you bought them? How many of them duplicated tools you already owned?
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/28 12:35:56
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bapu
I paid $2352 for Mercury during a sale. So I paid $18 per FX. Care to explain that to my wife? ;) Kidding - she spoils me already. Plus, I don't need Mercury or even Gold, just that CLA bundle and then I'm good... Oh, and Maybe JPP's Classics too. And then maybe... Honestly, the way I see it is that even if I never had the opportunity to put my hands on the hardware version of most of those things, they are an integral part of the sound I'm after. And the Waves models, unlike some others, seem to give me something that's so much closer that familiar sound, not just somewhat reminiscent.
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John T
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/28 12:38:11
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That is another point, yeah, though more one to do with personal preference. The idea of having a 150 plug-in bundle with 20 compressors and 20 EQs and 20 whatevers gives me the screaming abdabs.
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/28 13:08:22
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John T That is another point, yeah, though more one to do with personal preference. The idea of having a 150 plug-in bundle with 20 compressors and 20 EQs and 20 whatevers gives me the screaming abdabs. It takes all kinds to make the world go round, roight?
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/28 14:25:25
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/28 14:33:00
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Just don't stand too close to the edge otherwise you could fall off.
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bapu
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/28 15:39:00
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yorolpal The world goes round? Mine does. Everyday. strikinglyhandsome1 Just don't stand too close to the edge otherwise you could fall off. I often wondered about that. BTW, how would we get back on?
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/28 15:47:33
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You know when you haven't seen people for a while and you say - I wonder what happened to so and so? - Fell off, I'm afraid. Sorry to break the news. It's like hearing there's no Santa Claus. You have had the - there's no Santa Claus - chat?
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/28 15:48:23
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/28 15:48:58
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strikinglyhandsome1 You know when you haven't seen people for a while and you say - I wonder what happened to so and so? - Fell off, I'm afraid. Sorry to break the news. It's like hearing there's no Santa Claus. You have had the - there's no Santa Claus - chat? In my world I Am Santa Claus.
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/28 15:52:57
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Ah, so all your purchases are not for you. They are for us.
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bapu
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/28 15:55:30
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No. My world is just a little smaller than that.
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strikinglyhandsome1
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/28 15:58:38
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* rips up letter asking for Waves Mercury and FabFilter total bundle *
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/28 19:03:55
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bapu strikinglyhandsome1 You know when you haven't seen people for a while and you say - I wonder what happened to so and so? - Fell off, I'm afraid. Sorry to break the news. It's like hearing there's no Santa Claus. You have had the - there's no Santa Claus - chat? In my world I Am Santa Claus. This is how you call Dracula in your country ?
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/28 19:29:02
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/29 15:13:59
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Do not trust anything bapu says. He is now officially a shill evangelist pusher pimp spin doctor apologist street rep for Waves.
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strikinglyhandsome1
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/29 15:23:01
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Imagine I had to edit this post because I wanted it in another thread.
post edited by strikinglyhandsome1 - 2012/03/29 15:26:47
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/29 18:54:26
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strikinglyhandsome1 The very same, bit. It's pining but I can't afjord any of the collections.
Someone had to give props to one of the best/worst puns I've read in a while. Good on ya1
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Zo
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/29 19:19:16
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what's a street rep job .?
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Rain
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/29 19:41:25
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TCB - Tea, Cats, Books...
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/30 13:04:28
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"Ability to earn free products" - sounds like Mary Kay / Avon / Herbalife pyramid marketing. Maybe you pay to become a street rep and are then encouraged to sign others up? I joke, because in reality it's about time somebody in this industry approached marketing from this angle. When it comes to plugins, online discussions are easily as influential as magazines and trade shows. But vendors are still pursuing name engineers for endorsements, and planting favorable reviews in print media and blogs. Meanwhile, a dozen nobodies on KVR or Gearslutz are over there trashing your product, being read by thousands of impressionable noobs, and cancelling out all your marketing efforts. They just need to be careful how they implement it. There is a fine line between a volunteer advocate and a sock puppet.
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/30 13:24:56
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The CLA Bluestripe would be the main reason I would break down and start buying waves. Not quite ready yet but good luck there Bit.
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bapu
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/30 15:11:16
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Funny that Bit mentions Herbalife. I was on their IT team during their heyday. When told that getting an HP-3000 computer (our 4th) on a same day order and the overnight shipping alone would cost him tens of thousands of dollars he simply signed the P.O. The internal running joke at the time was that if MH dropped $100,000 out of his wheelbarrow on his way to the bank, he simply could not be bothered to stop and pick it up. It was pocket change to him.
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/30 18:10:32
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I have my own Herbalife anecdotes, but if I related them here that ethics-challenged (purportedly!) company would likely challenge them as slander, and I'd lose a lawsuit and be forced to take licorice root until heightened blood pressure made my head explode.
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Middleman
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/30 20:06:13
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Herbalife is one of my accounts here in LA. I have some stories as well.
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/31 01:38:26
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OK, so we're all in agreement: Ed should NOT become a street rep for Herbalife.
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bapu
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/31 02:51:30
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bitflipper OK, so we're all in agreement: Ed should NOT become a street rep for Herbalife. <bapu shrugged>
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/31 08:06:27
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Hi, I wonder if any of you guy can give me any wise words. I'm not technical and getting sonar and waves vsts to work together has been long and tortuous. I've got sonar X1d and just upgrades to v9 of waves with the hope of running my Maserati plugs for the first time since I bought them 9 months ago. Well it loaded and hey presto it all worked all fine and dandy. The next day I was unable to complete the vst scan, getting a series of error messages about missing files includes waves.ddl. When I stopped the scan I could open Sonar but couldn'thear any vst instruments. I've since deinstalled waves and the scan runs. Currently when I play existing projects I hear audio but no midi. If i load a new project I can create and hear both.. I'm very confused and hope you guy can help. I'm sure its something simple around the config but i'm not technical and worried i'll make things worse. I've logged this with Sonar support on the 25th but to date had no response. Regards Neil
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/31 11:43:49
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You'll do better to pursue this with Waves support, as it's an installation issue with their products rather than a SONAR issue. Waves' installations are more complex than most plugins, so there's more that can go wrong.
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bapu
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Re:I have become a Waves customer after all these years
2012/03/31 11:47:43
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neilconnor Hi, I wonder if any of you guy can give me any wise words. I'm not technical and getting sonar and waves vsts to work together has been long and tortuous. I've got sonar X1d and just upgrades to v9 of waves with the hope of running my Maserati plugs for the first time since I bought them 9 months ago. Well it loaded and hey presto it all worked all fine and dandy. The next day I was unable to complete the vst scan, getting a series of error messages about missing files includes waves.ddl. When I stopped the scan I could open Sonar but couldn'thear any vst instruments. I've since deinstalled waves and the scan runs. Currently when I play existing projects I hear audio but no midi. If i load a new project I can create and hear both.. I'm very confused and hope you guy can help. I'm sure its something simple around the config but i'm not technical and worried i'll make things worse. I've logged this with Sonar support on the 25th but to date had no response. Regards Neil Hi Neil, Did you manually move any of the files installed by Waves? That is the first No-No. Second, did you remove or modify any of the VST paths in X1 preferences?
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