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I need to build a new DAW. (Revised 08/23/2011
Tue. 08/23/2011 Update Hi Everyone I just wanted to let you know that I built it!!!!! I am very excited!!!! It is sitting on my Dinning room table right now as I type....I just need to torture test it tonight when I get home from work (which I think it will be fine) and then I can begin the software loading process and next week.....well next week I am on vacation so I will have all week to play with it......!!!!!!!!!!!! I am really looking forward to finding out just what she is capable of..... However that being said I really just wanted to say two things: 1. A very big and warm Thank you to Jim Roseberry Since this was was my very first build I needed a: Friend Advisor Mentor Teacher He was a stand out and a wise choice for all the above. I have no regrets and would not have gotten as far so I appreciate all his time, effort, advice and teaching. I would do it again. Thank you.  2. Thank you to everyone here for their Advice and Guidance.......Some times just having moral support is worth it's weight in gold...  I am very proud of how this build went......for several reasons and they would be the same advice I would give any one thinking about doing this themselves as well..... 1. I did several months of research. .....(and a lot ot time to save)....on parts, how to articles, magazines, "This Forum" (which was a biggie) etc.....just a lot of thinking and gathering of information....and prep work.....a lot of prep 2. Once I decided on my kit parts I sought consultation (this forum and Jim R.) 3. I ordered EVERYTHING I needed to do the entire build from begining to end. No piece mealing it. I did not get everything I wanted (had to comprimise in a few spots) but I am very satisfied with what I ended up with.....it was the correct choice for everything in the end. 4. I made sure that I had all my software I wanted to install, made sure they were all compatable with 64 bit drivers, had all their updates / patches and all my authorizing codes and serial numbers. I only have a couple of items that are 32 bit...but that will be ok.... 5. I took my time building.......I spread the work out so that i did not stress over anything......I built very carefully....paid attention to all the details and what I was doing...... 6. when I pressed the "on" button for the very first time and she came to life.......... all my prep and effort became worth it......I could see it in my ear to ear smile Now I am on the back side of the build.....just one more test tonight and then the software installation and away we go.... so Thank you again to everyone who chimmed in here to steer me in the correct direction!!!!! Peace Great wishes to everyone Clifford Hi Guys. I have to invest in a new DAW because my current one is dead due to being struck by a power surge from a Tampa storm a few weeks back. After a lot of thought and a LOT of research (a lot of it from you all) I have put together a parts list of what I think I would like to have in my next DAW. If you would be so kind as to have a look thru it and let me know if I am on the correct path. (meaning will all the parts work together and fit in the case, be stable and a solid build). I use 8.5.3 PE (althought I have x1 but it is still not installed) I would like to overclock this system a little up to like 4.0 ( stablility is the absolute most important point) I use a lot of CPU intesnive VST's like SD 2.0, Rapture, NI Komplete (I wouldlike to add on Machine) and Kore 2, Dim Pro etc...I use them in multi output instances. I would like to be able to run at least 80 or more tracks in any given project if I wanted. (I record at 24 bit / 44.1 ) I am going to go to a 64 bit system as you can tell. Iwould love to have 24 GIG of RAM but can only find 16 GIG. I am thinking of preping to add on RAID in the future. Not sure which one just yet because I am going to first fill every H.D. slot during the build and then later in a year or so add on RAID. Thank you for any input you may have for me. Clifford SPECS: CPU Intel Core i7-2600K BX80623I72600K Unlocked Processor - Quad Core, 8MB L3 Cache, 3.40 GHz, Socket H2 (LGA1155) http://www.tigerdirect.co...3159&sku=i69-2600k/ Mother Board ASUS P8P67 Pro B3 Intel P67 Motherboard - ATX, Socket H2 (LGA 1155), Intel P67 Express, 2200MHz DDR3 (O.C.), Gigabit LAN, 8-Channel Audio, SATA 6.0 Gb/s, SuperSpeed USB 3.0, SLI/CrossFireX, Bluetooth http://www.tigerdirect.co...ails.asp/?EdpNo=7343079 Ram Corsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9 Vengeance 16GB PC12800 DDR3 RAM - 1600MHz, 4x4096MB, Non-ECC, Unbuffered http://www.tigerdirect.co...7025816&catid=3473/ Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit 1-Pack - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Pro...x?Item=N82E16832116997 Drives Seagate ST32000641AS Barracuda XT Hard Drive - 2TB, 7200 RPM, SATA 6G, 64MB Cache http://www.tigerdirect.co...4438030&catid=4357/ Case Zalman GS1000 Plus Professional Computer Case http://www.quietpcusa.com...uter-case-p628c81.aspx/ Power Supply Unit Cooler Master RS-A00-80GAD3-US Silent Pro Gold 1000W Power Supply - ATX, Modular, 1000 Watt, SLI, CrossFire X, 80+ Gold Certified, 135mm Ultra Silent Fan http://www.tigerdirect.co...6389018&catid=2535/ Video Card Galaxy 55NGH8HX4NXK GeForce GTX 550 Ti Video Card - 1GB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 2.0 (x16), HDMI, DVI, VGA, DirectX 11, SLI Ready http://www.tigerdirect.co...ails.asp/?EdpNo=7335353 Fire Wire Card Fireboard-Blue™ 1394a PCI adapter http://www.unibrain.com/p...1394/fireboardblue.htm Optical Drive Lite-ON iHAP222-06 DVD Burner - 22X DVD+R, 22X DVD-R, 8X DVD+R9, 8X DVD-R9, 12X DVD-RAM, 8X DVD+RW, 6X DVD-RW, LightScribe, IDE http://www.tigerdirect.co...=4412159&catid=482/ CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D14 SE2 Ultra Quiet CPU Cooler Xtra Case Fans ZALMAN SF3 120mm Shark's Fin Blade ELQ (EverLasting Quiet) Bearing Case Fan http://www.newegg.com/Pro...067&Tpk=35-118-067 Fan Speed Controler NZXT Sentry LX Dual Bay Fan Control Panel http://www.quietpcusa.com...trol-panel-p694c7.aspx/ Sata Cables Nippon Labs 19.7" SATA III Flat Cable with Latch Model SATA3-0.5M http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812816115
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2011/05/30 23:09:21
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I could help. I would like to know what your budget would be though. You can get anything you want, as long as you pay for it.
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2011/05/31 07:46:51
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So, did the surge destroy the whole machine or just knock out the power supply? Have you tested for this?
I would at least try to reuse the drives that have all your data on them. I have in the past been able to move the drives from a "dead" computer to a "live one" and access the data.
If it is dead... the specs look like a real nice DAW for sure.
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Truckermusic
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2011/05/31 10:07:32
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gat19g
I could help. I would like to know what your budget would be though. You can get anything you want, as long as you pay for it.
I already have the cost for each item on an excel spreadsheet so I know what this system will cost me. When I do research like this I put everything into my sheet (it's just like costing out a job) so that It hleps me make an informed decision. (I have been saving for this since last september. But it still will be a few more months before I can move forward with it financially because I had some other financial set backs which I had to use a portion of this monye Thank you Clifford
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2011/05/31 10:37:23
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Guitarhacker
So, did the surge destroy the whole machine or just knock out the power supply? Have you tested for this?
I would at least try to reuse the drives that have all your data on them. I have in the past been able to move the drives from a "dead" computer to a "live one" and access the data.
If it is dead... the specs look like a real nice DAW for sure.
Herb I am not sure about the drives just yet. I have already thought about that cause if my drives are gone so is 6 yrs of work. If the drives are good then I have it planned to already help fill out the drive bays of the new one. I have taken the PC to three different repair facilities and they all were very close to the same solution. The basic bottom line is that it will cost about 65% of a new build vs to repair. So at present I think that it is smarter to build new than to repair. It just means that I caon do no recording until I get a new machine. I would like to try to build this myself but I've never built a computer before and at this kind of cost a mistake could spell disaster. I still have some time to think about it cause it is still a few months away but I need to weight the factors of a machne being built for me vs I do it myself and then mess it up.... I know you built your own just recently and are stoked about it which I admire you for. I feel that this is in my realm of ability to do but messing up one thing could be costly and I am not sure if that is worth it. but I really would like to try..... Clifford
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2011/05/31 12:12:04
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Since you've never built a computer before I would definitely recommend you look at some of the experienced vendors who put together DAWs for a living. The offerings from ADK and Studio Cat are very slick. Your requirements are significant, a machine that will perform under those sorts of projects is going to need to be solid all the way through. If you were going to salvage some parts from your existing machine then there might be an argument for building yourself in order to try and keep the costs down a bit. Since you're budgeting for a complete build I would definitely recommend checking into the pre-built systems. I don't think you'll save much more than 10 - 20% by doing it yourself and if you consider the value of consultation for your specs, ongoing support, and the guarantee that the job gets done right, no components damaged during installation or anything then I think you'll come out ahead by going with an experienced vendor.
Good luck!
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2011/05/31 14:56:36
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I agree. Try customizing a PC from a computer manufacturer.
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2011/05/31 16:06:44
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I agree. Try customizing a PC from a computer manufacturer.
I do this all the time with my internet computer. It is an E machine and it is 8 years old and runs really really well...... I only had a major problem with it once and that was due to the security suite from CA. Now it did take me three weeks to figure out what was wrong but Once I deleted it that computer seemed to run a lot better. I installed MS Security Essentials and have not looked back since. but I have installed (upgraded) all new ram, additional hard drives, cables, fans, Audio tuned it etc and have never had an issue. I hack on the registry on a usual basis as crude as I am and still it runs..... My crispy DAW I have installed additional internal drives with cabling, 4 new fire wire cards, a new optical drive and several external Hard drives (which I had to install them in a case first) etc....I do work on the registry when I uninstall any programs but that is far and inbetween because before a program gets on the DAW I have to really know that I want it..... The ONLY thing that makes me wondeer is really just the BIOS and generally configuring the thing..... Clifford
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2011/05/31 21:39:02
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I was a bit unsure whether to build or buy..... but I figured I would build and just went for it.
These days, if you do the research to be sure everything is compatible, it's simply a matter of mounting the parts correctly, plugging in a few cable connectors according to a picture diagram, installing the OS and you are up and running.
My only sticking point was on the OS installation... and that had to do with the order of the disks...... once that was solved, it was a piece of cake. A few days to install the DAW software and sample libraries, get everything registered, and it was functional. It took a few days because I was not in a big rush.... I took my time.
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2011/06/01 00:13:37
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...do the research to be sure everything is compatible...
It's a good idea to google each component to be made aware of potential problems. I made the mistake of ordering an unsuitable motherboard when there was good information available about its incompatibities that I should have been alerted to sooner.
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2011/06/01 07:58:26
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Cliff,
If you've put together computers before don't let this build stop you. I've saved a lot of money and got the components I wanted and put the computer together myself for years too. I think the choices you've made above are very good and should provide you with a DAW machine that you can use for quite a few years.
In my most recent build, I purchased a video card that was just too large in footprint for the case I was putting it in. But in your case (pardon the pun), it looks like you will have ample room. And a case that will allow you to swap out most of the components easily.
For the less experienced PC guys (and gals) out there, I would definitely recommend the builders that frequent here because they can get you a machine that does what you need it to do and that is record/mix music.
Let us know when you get this guy up and running. I'd love to hear about what you liked and didn't like about your most recent purchase.
Tom
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2011/06/01 10:31:57
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Guitarhacker
I was a bit unsure whether to build or buy..... but I figured I would build and just went for it.
These days, if you do the research to be sure everything is compatible, it's simply a matter of mounting the parts correctly, plugging in a few cable connectors according to a picture diagram, installing the OS and you are up and running.
My only sticking point was on the OS installation... and that had to do with the order of the disks...... once that was solved, it was a piece of cake. A few days to install the DAW software and sample libraries, get everything registered, and it was functional. It took a few days because I was not in a big rush.... I took my time.
Herb You and I were on the same page about whether to build or buy. I feel that I have the ability to accomplish the task.....but I am sure you understand the hesitation cause I am dealing with very expensive parts and one mistake could be costly. As for the research I have been watching and taking notes from this forum for several months now. I have looked on line (google and You Tube) for parts, how to video's etc.... I also will be taking my time cause that is something I have a lot of..... I will have un register and then reregister all my software and then reinstall but that goes with the territory....but I will be moving into the 64 bit realm so that has my attention as well..... I have posted my parts list here because I really wanted people to comment on whether they are all compatable or not or should I find substitutions.... Anyway thanks for the help... Clifford
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Re:I need to build a new DAW. Here is a list of what I am thinking about.
2011/06/01 10:45:19
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Clifford,
Do you want to make music or build a computer?
That's what it came down to for me.
I did exactly what you are doing; cost analysis, parts eval.
The time I saved on that alone made the purchase cost effective...
Add in product support, it was a no-brainer!
Just me...
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Truckermusic
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2011/06/01 11:23:54
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DeeringAmps
Clifford,
Do you want to make music or build a computer?
That's what it came down to for me.
I did exactly what you are doing; cost analysis, parts eval.
The time I saved on that alone made the purchase cost effective...
Add in product support, it was a no-brainer!
Just me...
Well.......you are exactly correct on all points....I cannot argue a one of them... However at the present moment I am Not making music because my only DAW is fried.... so I have nothing but time on my hands...... Clifford
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2011/06/01 11:28:59
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Cliff,
If you've put together computers before don't let this build stop you. I've saved a lot of money and got the components I wanted and put the computer together myself for years too. I think the choices you've made above are very good and should provide you with a DAW machine that you can use for quite a few years.
In my most recent build, I purchased a video card that was just too large in footprint for the case I was putting it in. But in your case (pardon the pun), it looks like you will have ample room. And a case that will allow you to swap out most of the components easily.
For the less experienced PC guys (and gals) out there, I would definitely recommend the builders that frequent here because they can get you a machine that does what you need it to do and that is record/mix music.
Let us know when you get this guy up and running. I'd love to hear about what you liked and didn't like about your most recent purchase.
Tom
Tom I think that this would be a killer build......I think that everything should be just fine together but I still wanted others opinions on how these parts will interact with each other.... Like I've said I've never built beofre but I do think it is in my realm of ability....I still have a few more months of saving again but that will just give me that much more time to research......which is fine....and yes I will let you know how it goes.... Your right about the experienced PC builders here....they are a valuable resource . they provide so much guidance to the rest of us and I think it speaks very highly of them. Clifford
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2011/06/01 16:21:56
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Maybe take a look at the Asus P8Z68-V Pro motherboard.
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Truckermusic
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2011/06/02 07:54:48
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ScottBenson
Maybe take a look at the Asus P8Z68-V Pro motherboard.
Scott I will do that.......thanks for the suggestion. Clifford
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2011/06/02 14:48:48
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yep - OS looks good for above 16G.
your links no longer work, tho. maybe they expired from a "wish list" or something?
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Truckermusic
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Re:I need to build a new DAW. Here is a list of what I am thinking about.
2011/06/27 10:45:35
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Reece
Thanks I appreciate it ...
Does anyone else have thoughts on this build?
Clifford
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2011/06/27 23:24:23
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Hi Truckmusic, "CPU"
Intel Core i7-2600K BX80623I72600K Unlocked Processor - Quad Core, 8MB L3 Cache, 3.40 GHz, Socket H2 (LGA1155)
Excellent choice. Probably the most bang for the buck. Runs pretty cool under load (32nm process) and it comes with integrated graphics. The stock cooler does the job and is reasonably quiet. You may want to hold off on third party cooling solutions until you've had a chance to work with your new system. I'm also taking for granted that your new build will be a dedicated DAW.
"Motherboard"
ASUS P8P67 Pro B3 Intel P67 Motherboard - ATX
Again, a very good choice. Full featured board with room to grow, although there have been reported issues with the onboard "Marvel Controller" which I would research if I were you. I'm talking from experience. 
"RAM"
Corsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9 Vengeance 16GB PC12800 DDR3 RAM - 1600MHz, 4x4096MB, Non-ECC, Unbuffered
Excellent choice. The only downside to this scenario is that you are filling your 4 DIMM slots (from the same kit). That means that when comes the time to add more memory in the future, you'll have to replace current RAM for a kit of either 4 x 6GB or 4 x 8GB. Just a heads up.
"PSU"
Cooler Master RS-A00-80GAD3-US Silent Pro Gold 1000W Power Supply - ATX, Modular, 1000 Watt, SLI, CrossFire X, 80+ Gold Certified, 135mm Ultra Silent Fan
Can you say overkill? I don't agree with this choice at all. Even with the intent of future-proofing your new build, why would you want so much. Are you going to turn this system into a gaming machine with multiple GPU's? I'm still taking for granted that this is a dedicated DAW. So my suggestion would be to save some money on the purchase and your electricity bill and go for 600 to 650 watts which still leaves you with lot's of power to expand.
"GPU"
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The best advice I can give you at this point is... chuck it. Your i7 2600k has integrated graphics, remember? Allocate the money for this item for something even more important like... an OCZ Vertex 3, 2.5" 120 GB solid state drive (SATA III 6G). A drive that I would reserve for the OS and audio applications only (64 GBs is not enough).
IMHO and with my current time constraint, I just wanted to leave you with my twoonie, for what it's worth. Good luck with your build.
jc
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"ScottBenson"
Maybe take a look at the Asus P8Z68-V Pro motherboard. I just purchased that one last week and I don't regret it. Except for the "Marvel Controller" issues. So I'm currently running a spanking new WD Velociraptor SATA 6G (600GB @ 10000rpm) on a SATA 3G controller. Works great, but it would be nice for this Marvel thing to go away.
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Alegria
Hi Truckmusic,
"CPU"
Intel Core i7-2600K BX80623I72600K Unlocked Processor - Quad Core, 8MB L3 Cache, 3.40 GHz, Socket H2 (LGA1155) Excellent choice. Probably the most bang for the buck. Runs pretty cool under load (32nm process) and it comes with integrated graphics. The stock cooler does the job and is reasonably quiet. You may want to hold off on third party cooling solutions until you've had a chance to work with your new system. I'm also taking for granted that your new build will be a dedicated DAW.
Yes this is a dedicated DAW........NO GAMING FOR TRUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Besides....I do not think I am going to over clock it .....and if I do it will not be much.......no more than 4.0...........
"Motherboard"
ASUS P8P67 Pro B3 Intel P67 Motherboard - ATX Again, a very good choice. Full featured board with room to grow, although there have been reported issues with the onboard "Marvel Controller" which I would research if I were you. I'm talking from experience.
Marvel Controller.......Hhmmmm.....ok.....I do not know what this is......could you please explain and tell me a little bit about the issues? I tried to research the mobo on google but did not come up with much......so please educate me......
"RAM"
Corsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9 Vengeance 16GB PC12800 DDR3 RAM - 1600MHz, 4x4096MB, Non-ECC, Unbuffered Excellent choice. The only downside to this scenario is that you are filling your 4 DIMM slots (from the same kit). That means that when comes the time to add more memory in the future, you'll have to replace current RAM for a kit of either 4 x 6GB or 4 x 8GB. Just a heads up.
I would give anything to have have 24 Gig in there instead of just 16. I have even asked the question here in this forum a couple of times and did not get a response.......I know you are correct in your advice to me but if I could find more RAM I would want to go that route........again please show me where I can find bigger RAM with the correct specs that are stable with the same specs......
"PSU"
Cooler Master RS-A00-80GAD3-US Silent Pro Gold 1000W Power Supply - ATX, Modular, 1000 Watt, SLI, CrossFire X, 80+ Gold Certified, 135mm Ultra Silent Fan Can you say overkill? I don't agree with this choice at all. Even with the intent of future-proofing your new build, why would you want so much. Are you going to turn this system into a gaming machine with multiple GPU's? I'm still taking for granted that this is a dedicated DAW. So my suggestion would be to save some money on the purchase and your electricity bill and go for 600 to 650 watts which still leaves you with lot's of power to expand.
Again......NO GAMING FOR TRUCKER!!!!! This is strictly a DAW.....I have tried to speced this so that this machine will not struggle......Like Tim the Tool man Taylor says......Oh Yeah...More POWER!!! Grunt , Grunt , grunt.......
"GPU"
[size=1 font="times new roman"] Galaxy 55NGH8HX4NXK GeForce GTX 550 Ti Video Card - 1GB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 2.0 (x16), HDMI, DVI, VGA, DirectX 11, SLI Ready The best advice I can give you at this point is... chuck it. Your i7 2600k has integrated graphics, remember? Allocate the money for this item for something even more important like... an OCZ Vertex 3, 2.5" 120 GB solid state drive (SATA III 6G). A drive that I would reserve for the OS and audio applications only (64 GBs is not enough).
I specifically did not place a SSD Drive in my system becuase although they are the future but at present time they are too small and too expensive......I am going to go with a 2 TB drives through out........I am going to max out the drive bays.....
IMHO and with my current time constraint, I just wanted to leave you with my twoonie, for what it's worth. Good luck with your build.
jc
JC.............Thank you for your response and your thoughts......I have tried to respond inside this msg......but I am grateful for your insights and guidance...... Thank you Clifford
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2011/06/28 09:46:11
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Clifford,
It is "Never too late to have a happy childhood"
Call Jim, make music, have fun...
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Hey Clifford, The problem with the "Marvell Storage Controller" as reported by others and experienced by myself on the P8Z68-V Pro motherboard (new build just last week) is the following: My Vertex 3 SSD (120GB) is my OS drive connected to the Intel SATA 6GB connector. Amazing performance. Boots to the login screen in less than 5 seconds. My WD Velociraptor SATA 6G (600GB @ 10000rpm) is the data drive and was to be connected to the Marvell SATA 6GB connector. In time, I was going to add another or more to eventually create a RAID array. As soon as I connected this drive to the Marvell controller, boot time increased tremendously and sometimes just hangning before reaching the logon screen. Sometimes the drive would be recognized by the bios and other times... not. Sometimes it would appear in "Disk Management" under windows and sometimes... not. I don't think I need to elaborate further on this and needless to say that after some research, the Marvell controller was identified as the culprit. As soon as I moved the HD to the Intel SATA 3GB controller, my system has been rock solid (stable). All I can do in the meantime is wait for a fix through either a driver or bios update. Here are some articles on the above mentionned issue: P8P67 Pro + Slow Splash Screen Boot Soon To Be Arrested For Motherboard Abuse (P8P67 and Marvell Issue) p8p67 pro b3 marvell storage controller issues: 10549 Search Results You may or may not encounter this problem with your board, I don't know but keep this in mind so you don't waste too much time if your system goes funky on you after attaching a drive to this controller. Mind you, a fix could be just around the corner. As for the memory, sorry, I don't have a solution. I'm also using 16 GBs and will only increase this to 32 GBs when they become available and are priced reasonably. jc
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Alegria
Hey Clifford,
The problem with the "Marvell Storage Controller" as reported by others and experienced by myself on the P8Z68-V Pro motherboard (new build just last week) is the following:
My Vertex 3 SSD (120GB) is my OS drive connected to the Intel SATA 6GB connector. Amazing performance. Boots to the login screen in less than 5 seconds.
My WD Velociraptor SATA 6G (600GB @ 10000rpm) is the data drive and was to be connected to the Marvell SATA 6GB connector. In time, I was going to add another or more to eventually create a RAID array. As soon as I connected this drive to the Marvell controller, boot time increased tremendously and sometimes just hangning before reaching the logon screen. Sometimes the drive would be recognized by the bios and other times... not. Sometimes it would appear in "Disk Management" under windows and sometimes... not. I don't think I need to elaborate further on this and needless to say that after some research, the Marvell controller was identified as the culprit. As soon as I moved the HD to the Intel SATA 3GB controller, my system has been rock solid (stable). All I can do in the meantime is wait for a fix through either a driver or bios update.
Here are some articles on the above mentionned issue:
P8P67 Pro + Slow Splash Screen Boot
Soon To Be Arrested For Motherboard Abuse (P8P67 and Marvell Issue)
p8p67 pro b3 marvell storage controller issues: 10549 Search Results
You may or may not encounter this problem with your board, I don't know but keep this in mind so you don't waste too much time if your system goes funky on you after attaching a drive to this controller. Mind you, a fix could be just around the corner.
As for the memory, sorry, I don't have a solution. I'm also using 16 GBs and will only increase this to 32 GBs when they become available and are priced reasonably.
jc
Thank you for providing me this information....I read thru each article and plan on doing that two or three more times.....It give me something to thinkabout that I did not know...... I appreciate you time and energy in educatiing me..... Thank you Clifford
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Hi Cliff I just went through the upgrade process myself. Like you I wanted something 2600k based as it offers a lot of bang for the buck and being a fairly seasoned builder I had no objections to building it myself. On costing the parts as single items I came in £15 or so cheaper than a system builder so I got them to build it in order to benefit from a free years warranty on the completed system. I'm glad I did. Had I been on your side of the pond I'd have been considering the extra for price of service and support from the likes our Jim or Scott. Anyone can source parts or built PC's for pretty much the same prices and it is service and support is the only thing worth paying the extra for. The only advice I'd give on the specs you have there is by going for a Z68 chipset board over a P67 based one, this would give you the on chip graphics options of the H67 and the overclocking ability of the P67 boards, the Z68's to my mind are the first boards to take full advantage of the Sandybridge processors.
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2011/07/25 16:50:15
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Hi Cliff
I just went through the upgrade process myself.
Like you I wanted something 2600k based as it offers a lot of bang for the buck and being a fairly seasoned builder I had no objections to building it myself.
On costing the parts as single items I came in £15 or so cheaper than a system builder so I got them to build it in order to benefit from a free years warranty on the completed system.
I'm glad I did.
Had I been on your side of the pond I'd have been considering the extra for price of service and support from the likes our Jim or Scott. Anyone can source parts or built PC's for pretty much the same prices and it is service and support is the only thing worth paying the extra for.
The only advice I'd give on the specs you have there is by going for a Z68 chipset board over a P67 based one, this would give you the on chip graphics options of the H67 and the overclocking ability of the P67 boards, the Z68's to my mind are the first boards to take full advantage of the Sandybridge processors.
Jonbouy Thanks for the advice....... I do have to say I agree with you on all accounts..... However as I've said this will be my first build so I am reallly taking my time thinking it over......I need this to work......both builders you listed are quality builders..... And Yes I will look at the Z68 chip.....it is something to think about ..... Thank you Clifford
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Hey CLiff, I just read this bit: I would give anything to have have 24 Gig in there instead of just 16. I have even asked the question here in this forum a couple of times and did not get a response....... This set of components: Intel Core i7-950 Gigabyte GA-X58-USB3 24GB Kingston Hyper-x 1600MHz-DDR3 Triple Channel Are guaranteed to work together and you get the full 24GB of RAM
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2011/07/26 10:06:46
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Also, it might be wise to put off buying the case & PSU until you've got everything else.
That way you can spec the case according to the physical size of all the internal cards and spec the PSU similarly
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2011/07/26 10:47:53
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After your previous experience, I would think that a UPS would be #1 on the new list. Except for that, I don't see any glaring faults.
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