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2017/04/12 22:49:21 (permalink)

I opted out of reincarnation

Just kidding...
 
Took the Bodhisattva vow to return as long as I can be of service to the manifest creation.
 
We all remember as kids from Sunday school class how Ramakrishna said "Let me come back into the body of a dog if I can serve the Divine."
 
So was just wondering, how many of us want to come back, or how many want to escape the cycle of rebirth by striving to attain Nirvana...the final Samadhi...
 
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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/12 23:00:11 (permalink)
I'm starting a cult.  I think our spirits (quantum information) will travel to a new planet based on how we behave on earth.  I don't serve kool aid, btw (nor starbucks)
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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/13 02:55:34 (permalink)
I said I opted out during my last life.  Turns out it doesn't matter what you say...  

 
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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/13 03:38:57 (permalink)
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I'm starting a cult.  I think our spirits (quantum information) will travel to a new planet based on how we behave on earth.  I don't serve kool aid, btw.


Spirits are quantized? 

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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/13 03:43:01 (permalink)
Yes our *souls*, those ephemeral things that have bemused philosophers for ages, are actually quantum information.  That information doesn't disappear after our bodies die.

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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/13 04:16:59 (permalink)
Unless we want it to.

 
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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/13 06:25:26 (permalink)
I don't know about Nirvana, but I would like to attain the final Salami....... 

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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/13 14:48:34 (permalink)
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Unless we want it to.




Is there a google for quanta?  (The right to be forgotten?)

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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/13 16:26:06 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby Wookiee 2017/04/14 12:34:06
I only want to come back for an occasional hour every once in a while as Tal's upper Bass horn

 
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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/13 16:35:52 (permalink)
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Yes our *souls*, those ephemeral things that have bemused philosophers for ages, are actually quantum information.  That information doesn't disappear after our bodies die.




 
Opinions are like our souls.

 
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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/13 18:38:48 (permalink)
If yer jes' gonna come back after ya leave... why leave in the 1st place?!
 
I'll be leaving in last place.
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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/13 18:42:52 (permalink)
Is reincarnation where you come back as a can of evaporated milk?

 
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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/13 18:44:01 (permalink)
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Yes our *souls*, those ephemeral things that have bemused philosophers for ages, are actually quantum information.  That information doesn't disappear after our bodies die.




 
Opinions are like our souls.


In English that would be arse souls, roight?
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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/13 19:22:28 (permalink)
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Is reincarnation where you come back as a can of evaporated milk?

 




... and fortified with vitamin D.
 
I wonder tho, if you come back "evaporated", did you really come back?!
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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/13 19:30:46 (permalink)
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Yes our *souls*, those ephemeral things that have bemused philosophers for ages, are actually quantum information.  That information doesn't disappear after our bodies die.




 
Opinions are like our souls.


In English that would be arse souls, roight?


If your soul is like an opinion and an opinion is like an arse then is an arse quantized?  If an arse is quantized then there will be uncertainty in finding it.

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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/13 19:41:05 (permalink)
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Yes our *souls*, those ephemeral things that have bemused philosophers for ages, are actually quantum information.  That information doesn't disappear after our bodies die.




 
Opinions are like our souls.


In English that would be arse souls, roight?


If your soul is like an opinion and an opinion is like an arse then is an arse quantized?  If an arse is quantized then there will be uncertainty in finding it.


Kanye certainly had a different view and Kim will testify to that.

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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/13 22:09:45 (permalink)
Why is mesh allowed in the forum monkey band?  He's clearly holding y'all back.

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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/13 22:25:42 (permalink)
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Yes our *souls*, those ephemeral things that have bemused philosophers for ages, are actually quantum information.  That information doesn't disappear after our bodies die.




 
Opinions are like our souls.


In English that would be arse souls, roight?


If your soul is like an opinion and an opinion is like an arse then is an arse quantized?  If an arse is quantized then there will be uncertainty in finding it.


Kanye certainly had a different view and Kim will testify to that.


If he knew a lot about its position (and was able to find it with both hands) that just means he had very little information about its momentum.

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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/13 22:45:37 (permalink)
Many deep observations fer sure.
 
Wanted SavageOpera to know that his quest for the Big Salami flows into at least one of the two major driving forces for a reincarnate shot at things again. You WILL get the Big Salami as long as the heart and mind are set upon it. Spirit doesn't give a ***t, but there to witness the wandering actions of mind and heart.
 
Us guys, you and me in the western cultures are kinda behind the 8 ball getting our minds wrapped around the concept, as much as the preachers have tried to drive it into our thick skulls with every Sunday morning southern baptist sermon we attend in faith.. Biggest hurdle to our understanding is coming to terms with what it is that actually reincarnates...
 
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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/14 02:08:48 (permalink)
Energy is conserved.
 
Recent scientific studies have proven that people can influence matter through conscious intent (just watched new findings about this on Tuesday actually).
 
Theory says it works like this:  You (with or without others) mentally create something (which starts as so-called "Consciousness Units" or CU's), which make up so-called Energy Units (or EU's), which finally make up the smallest subatomic particles and, eventually, matter.
 
E = mc 2
 
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Then there's my thoughts.  We are playing in one gigantic first-person game/reality/experience/etc.  Everyone chooses a role before starting and, like any really good actor, attempts to forget anything else known before except for what's required for the role (needless to say, some of these "forgotten" items seep into our minds and really toss things around!).  The goal is to learn and the game can definitely be played multiple times.  Chew on that!  

 
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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/15 21:54:57 (permalink)
So do we do reincarnate or do we not reincarnate.
 
Yes we do.
 
Intellect arguments are meaningless for this reason...  Recognition or recollection of past lives is hidden for both technological and utility reasons. Us 2017 sophisticated humanoids are somewhat ahead of a carrot on the evolutionary scale, but way short of the mark to hang out on the same cognitive plane with the Christs or Shivas where the past is as recent as the present. Interface with the engrams of our past is deeper than surface intellect, thus intellectual debate has no value in the face of what is.
 
Blast from the past is that even with our primate status, the genes, the chemicals, the brain receptors are there to unearth what we did before we were born as we know ourselves. Every humanoid has this capacity to close the debate with a little effort.
 
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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/15 22:33:17 (permalink)
And billions of years ago in a far off galaxy we were blown out of volcanos then captured by evil aliens who transported us to earth in spaceships that looked like 50's airliners so we could read pulp fiction pseudo science religious books and join millions of other victims to hold two cans with wires plugged in to a machine that audits our karma so the technician can write down our deepest secrets and charge us a fortune to teach us how to purify our spirit and clear us of all of our past life transgressions like the movie stars do so a red headed self proclaimed prophet and savior can sail around the world in his great ship and save the planet .................
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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/15 22:38:22 (permalink)
Cool...
And thanks. Was not aware of these revelations before I done spoke...
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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/15 22:44:59 (permalink)
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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/16 00:21:01 (permalink)
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Cool...
And thanks. Was not aware of these revelations before I done spoke...
Read "Messiah or Madman" by Hubbard's son, an absolutely amazing account of the life of L. Ron Hubbard.
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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/16 00:22:59 (permalink)
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Cool...
And thanks. Was not aware of these revelations before I done spoke...
Read "Messiah or Madman" by Hubbard's son, an absolutely amazing account of the life of a deceptive genius. You will not be disappointed. The scope of his scam is epic......Ron

I think a new even greater scam has been perpetuated. 'nuffsed.
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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/16 00:48:27 (permalink)
Didn't mean to obloviate guys just a book I read about reincarnation etc. No offense meant to anybody's belief system. Plenty of scammers out there in all philosophies........

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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/16 01:09:25 (permalink)
Hi,
 
I'm not sure it matters, either way, what we think or say about the matter!
 
Weird how we all think we're bigger than the universe and can overcome it!

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Yep, I just want to attain the final Salami, or if my karma's not sufficient, the final Bologna.

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Re: I opted out of reincarnation 2017/04/16 01:30:32 (permalink)
Hey Guys,
 
Got to come out of the closet again. Life for me has been completely abnormal, but in a good way (so far).
 
Back in the early 70’s was part of a lab analysis team in the radical underground of West Virginia state university. Study was what was happening in the brains of meditation dudes. Electrical connections, Fourier analysis and that kind of stuff. This was way ahead of the time for then, and proud to have been on the cutting edge. Still the cutting edge.
 
Was blown away by what presented as the next step in our evolution, looking thru and analyzing reams of EEG brainwave things. End point was quickly apparent. Progress wasted by each of us, because the potential was there, but no one took advantage. Proximal cause of the loss was that we had no idea how to harness the gift. Was at once a ray of hope, but a wakeup call to get it together because the biological clock was ticking toward individual annihilation for each of us. And it still is...
 
Chased these renegades around the planet after constant rejection to learn the process. 22 year old clueless brain dead cannibal meat eater beyond redemption was the reason for me not wasting my time in a goal that I did not have any capacity to achieve. Best for me to just eat, sleep, excrete, die in the natural process of mortality and quit inflicting harm on the universe. Thanks for the interest, but success in life for me was already impossible.
 
Finally got to get trained after years of effort. Guess I passed the test.
 
Point of all this crap is that in the valid science of yoga, the real science of introspection, you gots to come to terms with where you were and what you done in the past. Passing artifact. Lets you know you are making progress, but not the end point goal.
 
Was one of the only white boys who got into a valid path to study the real science. When you can grasp the pebble out of the Master’s hand, you go forth to spread the Gospel. Stuff like that. Total and traumatic break in the transition with everything I was taught to be sacred.
 
We were screwed by ignorance. Not by something conspiracy thing, but by a set of observations and principles too pure to get regulated yet.
 
Ironical point that after earning my swami guru turban and orange robes, was sent back to India to teach the bloody heathens their own introspective science. Everyone there is aware of the philosophy, but nobody knows first hand by virtue of personal subjectivity. Reincarnation part of the philosophy, but no one has any experience in the ancient memory or how to retrieve it.
 
What I would think would be cool is if I could share some perspectives on the rebirth process. Nothing Trump will substantiate. Robert Goulet, the Tidy Bowl man, Pope whoever, even the highest bastion of our knowledge, Brittany Spears will authoritatively knock this down as unamerican.
 
Can share my perspectives on this, but even if the Coffee House, there are limits.
 
More than honored to being told to eat ***t and die. In which case will crawl back into whatever hole I crawled out of. Bigger and pressing issues in our daily life to contend with than where any of us will end up two hundred years from now.
 
Love to all of you,
John
 
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