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2012/02/16 16:11:18 (permalink)

I want to buy a Telecaster - DONE! Guitar is being returned

I do not have enough funds to get a U.S. Telecaster. 
I am seriously considering a Squire from Musician's Friend for $179, no tax, no shipping and comes with a 2 year warranty for another $20.
I apologize to all the wonderful guitarist out there in advance for wanting to purchase such a cheap guitar but my purpose is to get more twang for my country songs than my 1979 Fender Strat that I have been using for years.  This would be my second electric guitar of my life. 
Been doing lots of research and seem to have narrowed this down. 
 
Does anyone have a comment or recomendation about this purchase that you can share?  Thanks.  Here's the link to the guitar:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/squier-affinity-series-telecaster-special-electric-guitar/515115000839000
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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/16 16:20:56 (permalink)
    There was thread about this about 2 months ago.

    The consensus seemed to be that at any price, it has never been easier to buy a very nice playing guitar.

    I think a used MIM Fender at about $280ish is one of the best all arounder choices for a great player guitar. But that's a very personal opinion.

    Good luck and have fun shopping.


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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/16 16:26:15 (permalink)
    Thanks Mike, sorry I didn't see that thread.  I'll look for it.  I am hoping for a good tone and that it stays in tune! 

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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/16 16:32:25 (permalink)
    I just finished a country project with one time successful Nashville songwriter, performer, Larry G. Hudson. His weapon of choice for his guitar tracks was an Affinity Tele very much like this model. It stood up suprisingly well to be in the cash bracket it is in. It had very much the snap and honk of it's American made counterpart. I myself have leaned more towards Strats than Teles, but I am proud of a Mexican made Tele I own. You can always drop better grade pickups and pots into the Affinity if you are chasing a particular tone. I saw nothing wrong with the Affinity right off the shelf. It delivered in every aspect you would want it to. As long as any instrument plays well, it can be modified to be better. Of course, I am not one of those people that has to have THE vintage guitar with THE vintage amp. There is a certain character to any instrument, no matter what it's price. The only thing I have found in Squier instruments is the fret job may be a little rough on the edges of the neck. That can easily be rectified with a little JUDICIOUS filing. Enjoy!

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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/16 16:39:48 (permalink)
    I just purchased a Tele.....crafted in China.

    $430 with hard case shipped.  



    Nice guitar. 

    3 PU on it..... a tele, strat, and a humbucker. sounds good. 

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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/16 17:08:15 (permalink)
    I've got a MIM "Nashville" Tele.  The lead guitar player in our band (I play pedal steel) is a died in the wool "must have" USA Fender Strats and Teles and old tube Fender amps.  But, he's played my MIM Tele on a couple of shows and likes it.

    The Nashville Tele has a Strat pickup in the middle (3rd pickup) and a 5 position pickup switch like a Strat. 

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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/16 18:02:18 (permalink)
    The Classic Vibe Squire line is very good.  Cheapish, and really nice.  I got a Classic Vibe Jazz bass, and it is just fantastic.  Check them out.

    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/squier-classic-vibe-telecaster-50s-electric-guitar

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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/16 18:44:03 (permalink)
    If you can find a tele in your price range that plays good - that is much more important than finding one that sounds good. I know that might sound strange, but replacing a pickup is an easier option than trying to replace a neck, tuners, bridge, etc.. etc..! Just find one that plays good to start with, then upgrade the pickup(s) later.

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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/16 21:02:28 (permalink)
    Sidroe, thanks for the reply and good tips!  

    Guitarhacker, what a great looking guitar!  Can you send me the link of where you purchased it?  Thanks much.

    Firebird, my pedal steel friend!  Hope you are doing well.  Thanks for the input!

    Sven450, thank you.  I too shop at Musician's Friend.  I will check out that link.  

    Thanks to all.  

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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/16 22:15:34 (permalink)
    You might find a used G&L ASAT from the tribute line for that sort of price. I used to have one and it was a great guitar that I only sold to help fund an engagement ring.
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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/16 22:41:55 (permalink)

     
     
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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/17 01:06:05 (permalink)
    MOST IMPORTANT is the feel of that neck, don;t matter who made it or were. You can't do much about sloppy workmanship on the frets. Hold it up to the light and sight the neck from the bridge looking towards the nut. Is it smooth or bumpy? IS it twisted? Is there a ever so slight dip. Feel those edges, they are not that easy to smooth out. ( I've tried ) +1 to the G&L, I own one and it is possibly the nicest sounding, playing guitar I've owned. Pure country twang and smooth blues. Dead quiet in the studio too. My old Japanese tele wore out and I miss it. I chose it of the US model just on feel but that was in 1985. Never did like the Chinese or Mexican models, but things do improve due to manufacturing gizmos. So this time around I ended up with the G&L which is an offshore model I paid $300 second hand new.

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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/17 11:11:42 (permalink)
    i would start searching the pawn shops.
    these days, lots of folks have had to unload their 'toys', and you want to put your hands on the guitar before you pay for it.

    some of the best teles i've ever played, were made in japan.

    some of them, were not even fender build.


    point is, there are some real gems out there, but just like the ever elusive SNIPE, you must hunt for them.


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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/17 17:48:01 (permalink)
    Herb: What model Tele is that?......beautiful

    I have an American Standard Tele that I got directly from Fender in 1995 (had a long standing endorsement)...after trying the 'USA 50's reissues at the time, I felt that the pickups in what I got were alot more true to the teles I played as a kid. But what's out there now is astounding...I have 2 MIM Strats that I gig with regularly and love 'em......I just changed out the pickups to Texas Specials on one and Gold Lance Sensors on the other......the Chinese and MIM stuff is good but you'll want to upgrade the pickups to USA Teles. Only the USA pickups to my ears have that high end snap.

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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/17 17:52:06 (permalink)
    Also I believe the Nashville Teles have a 7.5 radius on the neck (that's what a vintage neck would be) I'd love to have one of them but pne of the beautiful sounds of a tele is having the front and back pickup on at the hame time (middle position)...what's the point if it's only wired like a 5 way Strat?

    If you go with Squier or MIM, make sure you know the radius of the neck...I would recommend the 9.5 radius....easier to bend notes

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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/17 18:25:48 (permalink)
    I have a Stew-Mac super switch in my "Nashvul" Tele.  It restores the front/back pickup mode like other Tele's.   The stock pups in my guitar are Texas Hot pickups.  I don't know if they are made in US or not.

    I have Bill Lawrence pickups in my Franklin steel and I've thought about Lawrence pickups for the Tele. 

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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/17 23:49:13 (permalink)
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    I do not have enough funds to get a U.S. Telecaster. 


    Look on Ebay or anywhere for the Blackout Tele, it is a dream to play. (Not to be confused with the more recent Blacktop Tele's) It's made in Mexico and looks killer with the chrome on black. I bought a used one in vintage condition at Guitar Center for $369! It features a five position tone switch and three single coil pickups for a nice variety of tone.


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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/18 10:56:54 (permalink)
    Telecasters are great instruments. For the price a Squire is a great deal. If it was me, however, I would look for something used. Craigslist is a good place to find bargains. I think it's important to be able to play the instrument before you buy it. Guitars all have different feels - even if it's the same model. Keep us posted

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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/18 12:12:53 (permalink)
    Gaffpro & Rimshot: 

    here's the link:  http://www.samash.com/p/F...ctric%20Guitar_1744448

    THis is the Modern Tele.... a recent addition to the Fender line. 

    When I went looking in the stores, neither Sam Ash or Guitar Center had them in store.  GC said they had them in their warehouse and could get them in a few days.... SA said they had none showing in the warehouses. 

    I returned home and called both.  Sam Ash told me on the phone they were expecting a shipment in a few days. GC said it could be weeks at best.  More like a few months..... 

    I ordered it from Sam Ash. they said the guitar was $399  I told them that I wanted a hard case and the guitar but did not want to pay more than $400 for both and that GC had made me a pretty sweet offer with free shipping when they had restocked on it. He said to hold on as he needed to check with his boss. A minute later he returned and made me that offer.... $400 and I had to play shipping... it was the best he could do.  I think the case was something like $75 bucks or so..... so I figured that was the best deal and the quickest way to get this beauty. 

    and got an email next day saying they were back ordered.  A call to them and they said no problem, that should be resolved in a few days. With in a few days I got an email saying the guitar was in and was being shipped to me. 

    A little bit of set up...raising the strings a bit with the bridge was all I have done to it so far. 

    It's on the CCR cover I did some time back. http://soundcloud.com/gui...you-ever-seen-the-rain  it was recorded before I raised the strings



    note on the color: I decided on the honey color after reading a review where the person said they got the charcoal one and it looked almost black..... not the color shown in the photo. I'm very pleased with my decision and the guitar. 

    I knew going in that a made in China guitar would not be an American Tele.... In spite of that, the guitar plays well, feels good, and sounds good. For the price, not a bad deal. Maybe some day I will look at a PU upgrade, but for now, it has to stay stock. 
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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/18 13:20:41 (permalink)
    +1 for the Squier Tele's, I'm really pleased with my Custom II with the P90's, plays beautifully. £220 ($300-ish?)

     
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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/19 00:27:22 (permalink)
    This may be a little late, but when I buy a guitar, I go to the store, play them all. When I find one that sounds and feels the way I want, stays in tune and has a true neck, I buy it and call it a day. Using this approach, I've bought some odd beasts in my time, but I loved them all. From my Gibson Firebird to the Daisy Rock (don't laugh, this one was a gem).
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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/19 06:40:23 (permalink)
    I worked at a music store, as the amp tech, but in slow times I would help out in the store.  The store "Little Roy Wiggins Music City" located on Lower Broadway in Nashville (across the street from Tootsie's) was also the factory outlet for Grammer accoustic guitars.  No two guitars in the store had the same feel, either the "factory second" Grammers or any other new brand name guitar in the store.  We would always tell customers to "play it" to see if you really like it and not to buy it just because it is a Fender or a Gibson or whatever brand. 

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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/19 08:06:01 (permalink)

    I feel strongly about this with acoustics. No two play the same and the difference can be great enough to make one unenjoyable while an other is a pleasure.

    Years ago I realized that if I ever wanted to own some of the electric guitars I wanted to play that I would simply have to order them. So I've been doing that for a long time and it seems to have worked out fine.

    I had resisted ordering guitars but I finally figured out that my friends who owned guitar stores were in the very same predicament. Someone has to take a chance on the guitar, and if you are like me and want every detail to be a certain way... then you may get used to ordering stuff and checking it out after that.


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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/19 09:00:45 (permalink)
    .... but my purpose is to get more twang for my country songs than my 1979 Fender Strat that I have been using for years

     
    Keep in mind that the "twang" is often in the playing, not just in the guitar. A good country guitar player can make any guitar twang, although it is easiest with a good Tele. P-90's are also great, as are strats as long as you can get the high end tamed. A 79 strat (providing it still has a single coil bridge) can be dialed in with a decent amp (or amp sim) to similuate a tele. Certainly not exactly the same - but close.
     
    The tele "twang" is the bridge pickup, and it's interaction with the bridge plate. The bridge P/U itself is usually much thicker sounding than a strat bridge for three reasons. 
     
    1: The makeup of the pickup itself.
    2: The interaction with the bridge plate. When shopping for a TELE take along a small magnetic screwdriver. If it sticks to the bridge plate - that's what you want to maximize twang. The pickup can be replaced if it isn't good enough, usually for less money than a good bridge plate. (You won't usually find a good bridge plate on a low cost tele)
    3: It is hooked up to a tone control while normally a strat is not (stock). Even with the tone wide open it does alter the sound a lot, and tames the really high frequencies.
     

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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/19 09:28:34 (permalink)
    I tend to agree about the idea that one should play a guitar before buying it for all of the reasons mentioned. Tone, and feel, are hard to test unless you have it in your hands. 

    If I was buying a "main axe" or a fairly expensive guitar I would certainly want to try it before I buy it. 

    However, knowing that this guitar was not going to be in that category, and, having played a number of similar lower priced factory guitars, and with a 30 day return policy, I felt justified in taking a chance on a mail order guitar.  

    My biggest crit of the tele is: The PU's are a bit noisy in certain configurations especially on the mesa boogie in the hi gain setting. On the clean channel setting, it will shatter glass.  But I have noticed that in certain switch/pickup combinations, the noise is canceled and the guitar is fairly quiet. I was expecting that in the Fender pickups since I know they are not the dual coil humbuckers that I have on my Gibson SG...... well the back PU is in fact a dual/split coil HB....hi gain....  still....totally workable. 

    Here at the house, in the studio, I don't really like to crank it up..... but I'd love to hear this thing running on 7 or 8 in a band. 

    For the price and the feel/tone/features, I'm not disappointed in the purchase.

    post edited by Guitarhacker - 2012/02/19 09:35:37

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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/19 13:07:07 (permalink)
    Rimshot,
      For what it's worth, I own a Dillion DVT 52 I bought about 6 months ago and I find it really well made and a beautiful guitar.  Mine is just like this with the maple neck, then I had the bridge pic up replaced with a double stack (single space) humbucker which suits my purposes a little better.   Though I do love the look of Herbs tele with that factory humbucker in the back!
     


     
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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/19 15:20:58 (permalink)
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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/19 16:59:57 (permalink)
    Thanks to all for your great feedback.  I checking local pawn shops this next week.  I'll let you know what I find (nor not).  

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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/19 18:46:33 (permalink)

    I want to buy a Telecaster



    me too.
    just sayin..


    I never liked solid body guits much (paul reed smith was an exception). But, I just love the sound of a tele.


    And, speaking of a tele with a humbucker, doesn't that sort of defeat the purpose of getting a tele. I mean that twang don't come from no humbucker, no?
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    Re:I want to buy a Telecaster 2012/02/19 19:57:06 (permalink)
    check with some of the local musicians too..... 

    Before I bought mine, a buddy of mine, knowing I was looking a tele called me and offered me a few of his..... swap for an amp I was selling...... but we didn't make the deal. 

    He would probably have sold a few of those guitars really cheap. But they were road worn, beat to death, and cheap copys to start with...... maybe you can find a resonably priced used tele in good condition that way....

    for sure....let us know and post some pics when you find that sweet deal.  Looking at a musician's new guitar is almost as much fun as checking out his newest girlfriend. 

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