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Import Issues Affecting Settings? 8.5 to X3
I've had a number of problems in getting X3 Producer to work with projects that had been started with 8.5.3 PE because its sorcerer's apprentice changes and eliminates things.
Like I'll open a project and get no sound or it's frozen and after a bit of troubleshooting find out that it had changed the external insert assignments for the 2 bus compressor to "none"
But on one project, all the fx and automation had been removed and all the pans were re-asigned to center. Every version of the project. I thought maybe if I opened it in 8.5.3 they'd be back but no dice.
Many hours of painstaking work, destroyed. WTF?
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/15 16:44:55
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Did you save the projects in X3 and then tried to open them in 8.5.3?
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/15 16:46:12
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You should try opening the projects in safe mode.
I assume you have a copy of 8.5.3 and backups of your work?
I tend to finish projects in the same version of Sonar that I started with. That generally avoids problems. If I upgrade Sonar I always backup projects first (in fact I always backup to an external drive at the end of the day, it's just common sense). During the day I back up projects under different filenames although I could have used auto save.
I'm sorry you lost your work.
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/15 16:51:50
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John
Did you save the projects in X3 and then tried to open them in 8.5.3?
No. Why would I want to save the destruction?
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/15 17:04:42
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You should try opening the projects in safe mode. Will that bring back the missing stuff?
I assume you have a copy of 8.5.3 and backups of your work?
As I just said, "I thought maybe if I opened it in 8.5.3 they'd be back but no dice." Backups are destroyed upon opening. several versions on two separate external hard drives. I tend to finish projects in the same version of Sonar that I started with. That generally avoids problems. I wasn't warned about that. I thought if I didn't have problems going from 6 PE to 7 PE to 8.5.3 PE why would X# **** things up?
If I upgrade Sonar I always backup projects first (in fact I always backup to an external drive at the end of the day, it's just common sense). During the day I back up projects under different filenames although I could have used auto save..
That's exactly what I did. I have several different versions on 2 separate external hard drives and they are all ****ed.
I'm sorry you lost your work.
Do I get a refund? Is there a class action lawsuit I should know about?
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/15 17:05:11
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Did you also move from a 32-bit 8.5.3 to a 64-bit X3?
Any hardware changes from 8.5.3 to X3?
32-bit plugins in the 8.5.3 projects that maybe are not present in X3?
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/15 17:06:39
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/15 17:07:11
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/08/16 12:32:48
Wait - you had some sort of project data loss, and then kept opening all of your backup copies until you had no more saved versions of your projects?
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/15 17:09:16
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I am just trying to figure out what happened, to try to help.
The additional backup versions, you opened them in 8.5.3 after trying to open them in X3, or did you only open those copies in 8.5.3 and find them messed up? Just trying to understand.
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/15 17:14:00
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The last one I opened with 8.5.3 PE 64 bit. I might have one more. I could try opening it in safe mode.
Anyway, I gotta chill. I'm riding my bike to the library -- I'll check back in a bit.
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/15 17:18:05
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Aren't you making a copy before opening the backups?
In regards to opening in safe mode just try it.
If you are opening projects that have only been used 8.5.3 in Sonar 8.5.3 and have not touched later versions there are probably other issues at play such as missing plugins. If you post more detailed info here on specifically what is going on you might be able to get help here. Check the windows event viewer for error messages maybe.
Sorry if you were to take this to court you would be told backup of your data is your primary responsibility and besides you signed up to the terms and conditions. Sorry but often files 'corrupt' for a number of reasons and Sonar may or may not be at fault, I suggest you try to get down to the bottom of it.
Yeah the 32 bit vs 64 bit was a good suggestion.
I'm sorry I know these things are a pisser it happens to everybody.
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/15 17:20:21
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The reason I was asking about hardware/system changes - this is from the Sonar documentation about External Inserts:
"Loading a project that uses the External Insert plug-in
When you load a project with the External Insert plug-in (or select a preset in the External Insert interface), SONAR checks to see if the exact same ports are assigned as when the project was saved. SONAR’s port assignments can change if you load the project on a different hardware configuration or change driver models. If there is any discrepancy between the port assignments that were saved and the ports that are used in the current configuration, the ports are set to “None”. Doing so avoids accidentally loading projects and having audio routed in an unexpected way."
And, if you had only opened an 8.5.3 project in 8.5.3, without opening it in X3, there is no reason whatsoever that I am aware of where X3 would have done anything to that project.
I believe if an 8.5.3 project opened only in 8.5.3 is having routing assignments and such messed up, then it is most likely due to some change in your system hardware/configuration.
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/15 18:33:29
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/15 18:36:54
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John
Did you save the projects in X3 and then tried to open them in 8.5.3?
No. Why would I want to save the destruction?
OK your premise is faulty and why I asked the question. A project is read when loaded. If there is no writing to it X3 could not have done anything to it. In order for a project to be modified it has to be written to. Something is screwed up on your system. Blaming X3 without thinking it through is not all that helpful. Edit to add. I have projects going back to Pro Audio and every version since. I have never ever had a problem opening an older project in a newer version.
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/15 19:02:18
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Some of us are music producers, not coders or hackers. Can you blame me for thinking Sonar is at fault when EVERYTHING ELSE on my system works perfectly?
I've got projects going back to 6PE and I've never had a problem with older projects working with upgrades.
Until now. And no comment is more utterly worthless than, "It works for me!"
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/15 19:32:23
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jonnewyork
Some of us are music producers, not coders or hackers. Can you blame me for thinking Sonar is at fault when EVERYTHING ELSE on my system works perfectly?
I've got projects going back to 6PE and I've never had a problem with older projects working with upgrades.
Until now. And no comment is more utterly worthless than, "It works for me!"
Well I understand you are perhaps a little upset but I am a user just like you trying to be of some help. I offer what I can in order to help figure out why you are having problems with X3. I do not do this for money or for anything other than coming to the aid of a fellow Sonar user. You may think that it is of little help when a statement is made that denies the issue but it is no less useful than an affirming statement. If others don't have the issue than it is very helpful and gives rise to the notion that your system is in some way the issue. It may not be, however, often these issues are system dependent. Bob has been very helpful in trying to help figure out what is causing this. My first question was an important one but unfortunately you seemed to have missed its full meaning. And now you are being sarcastic and rather rude. Good luck with your non functioning Sonar.
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/15 20:10:13
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jonnewyork
I've got projects going back to 6PE and I've never had a problem with older projects working with upgrades.
Until now. And no comment is more utterly worthless than, "It works for me!"
No, it's not worthless because if people don't have problems opening older projects and you do, then it is something specific to your system. Trying to find the solution therefore needs to shift away from Sonar to what else might be causing the problem. John is right, if you open something in X3 it is NOT overwriting the original file unless you tell it to. So I suspect something has changed since you last opened a project in 8.5.3. I think the next question to ask is if you open up a project in 8.5.3 that has NOT been opened in Sonar X3,. does it exhibit the same symptoms? Also, having the same hardware doesn't guarantee the configuration hasn't been changed. Take a deep breath, and think logically about tests you can do to isolate the problem. Rest assured that X3 will "destroy" a file only if there's some problem and you deliberately choose to overwrite the file anyway.
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/15 20:13:26
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I apreciate your taking your time to try to help. As far as being sarcastic and rude, obviously it isn't your hours of painstaking work seeming to disappear, leading to hours of unanticipated detective work  I have some more clues: I may have upgraded hardware since last opening that project -- I have to look up the receipt. I don't have the latest firmware on the h'ware, a Lynx Aurora 16. Project is 2 years old but still important. There were 'clicking' issues with my drawn crossfades on a couple of comped tracks (when working with 8.5.3 PE). I don't know if these are useful clues for the Sonar Sleuths, but maybe I can come up with more over the weekend. Otherwise Monday morning, barring anything unexpected I'll call Lynx, get my firmware updated and then call Cakewalk. The rest of the songs were salvageable, so I won't be twiddling my thumbs. X3 works great when it works
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/15 21:26:58
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jonnewyork
As far as being sarcastic and rude, obviously it isn't your hours of painstaking work seeming to disappear, leading to hours of unanticipated detective work
But it isn't any of us who caused it to "disappear," so any sarcasm and rudeness is misdirected. More importantly, that means you're focusing on the problem, not the solution, which can delay finding a solution. I have some more clues: I may have upgraded hardware since last opening that project -- I have to look up the receipt. I don't have the latest firmware on the h'ware, a Lynx Aurora 16. Project is 2 years old but still important. If I recall correctly, known issues involving Sonar and non-updated Auroras have surfaced before. I highly recommend getting the hardware updated to the latest firmware if it isn't already, and then take stock of which problems do or do not remain. Meanwhile, I'd still like to know what happens if you open an 8.5.3 project that has NOT been opened in X3 in 8.5.3. If you experience the same issues, that takes Sonar X3 out of the equation.
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/15 22:12:34
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jonnewyork
As far as being sarcastic and rude, obviously it isn't your hours of painstaking work seeming to disappear, leading to hours of unanticipated detective work
But it isn't any of us who caused it to "disappear," so any sarcasm and rudeness is misdirected. More importantly, that means you're focusing on the problem, not the solution, which can delay finding a solution.
I have some more clues: I may have upgraded hardware since last opening that project -- I have to look up the receipt. I don't have the latest firmware on the h'ware, a Lynx Aurora 16.
Project is 2 years old but still important.
If I recall correctly, known issues involving Sonar and non-updated Auroras have surfaced before. I highly recommend getting the hardware updated to the latest firmware if it isn't already, and then take stock of which problems do or do not remain. Meanwhile, I'd still like to know what happens if you open an 8.5.3 project that has NOT been opened in X3 in 8.5.3. If you experience the same issues, that takes Sonar X3 out of the equation.Me too. It would help set a baseline. I also agree about the firmware update. Plus any driver updates. Once that is done I think we can do a better job of finding the problem.
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/15 22:23:41
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'As far as being sarcastic and rude, obviously it isn't your hours of painstaking work seeming to disappear, leading to hours of unanticipated detective work'
What makes you think that nobody here hasn't experienced data loss with an application? I am willing to bet everybody here has done so . Anyway you have had quite a few pointers here I suggest drawing a line and let us try and help you debug. I wrote a few suggestions myself any feedback will help us help you. It is noticable that 4 of us had made similar points about opening the backups. Keep calm and get down to the bottom of this I suggest, all of us would like to see you get your work back.
Thanks...
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/15 22:26:46
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In my experience with opening an old project with the project being setup for equipment that is no longer on the system is Sonar will warn me that I have buses or gear that is not what is listed in the project. Often its because I have different MIDI ports and a different audio interface. It will also alert me to missing plugins.
If I than save the file so that it overwrites the old file (which I don't do. I aways use save as.), than it should reflect any changes I did to the new setup.
I have never had to resort to safe mode or had any problem opening any project.
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/16 00:13:26
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A great example of why to never, never, ever to use SAVE.
I ONLY use SAVE AS to a new name about every 5 minutes. Years of habit.
wish the CW managers would fix the auto save function
AND GIVE ME A SAVE AS BUTTON
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/16 00:17:31
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Look, there aren't a bunch of threads in this forum with folks having these problems, so like it or not, until something surfaces otherwise, this is likely due to circumstances local to your particular environment. Please do not take the above statement as a 'works here' comment, as that is not at all the point I am trying to make. Problems that affect a bunch of folks are reported by a bunch of folks, so that this has not happened for this set of reported problems is an indication that it is probably something we can figure out, as it is most likely a local issue. I promise you I will give best effort at helping you get this stuff figured out, as long as we can work at it cooperatively. I can also assure you that the folks who had responded earlier also routinely bend over backwards for folks, to try to solve issues that can be solved. (It's after midnight here, and I have spent the last hour digging through things on the web looking for ways to help you) Here is the link for the driver/firmware updates page for you: http://www.lynxstudio.com/support_downloads_results.asp?prod=1&type=0 Few questions for you: 1. Do you have the latest X3 maintenance applied? (X3e) 2. You indicated some 8.5.3 projects open in X3, which is very helpful to know. Can you try to detail differences between the ones that do open, and the ones that are now messed up? That might also help narrow things down. 3. Are you running with ASIO as your driver mode in X3? (Lynx had prior issues when not running ASIO, if I recall correctly from some time ago). Hang in there, Bob Bone
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/16 01:52:41
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jm24
A great example of why to never, never, ever to use SAVE.
I ONLY use SAVE AS to a new name about every 5 minutes. Years of habit.
wish the CW managers would fix the auto save function
AND GIVE ME A SAVE AS BUTTON
Auto Save is a "save as" function that never overwrites your original file. Why would you want it "fixed" to overwrite a file? I think that would be asking for trouble...
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/16 08:50:18
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jm24
A great example of why to never, never, ever to use SAVE.
I ONLY use SAVE AS to a new name about every 5 minutes. Years of habit.
wish the CW managers would fix the auto save function
AND GIVE ME A SAVE AS BUTTON
Anderton
Auto Save is a "save as" function that never overwrites your original file. Why would you want it "fixed" to overwrite a file? I think that would be asking for trouble...
I really don't understand how this is related to the OP's issue. I use "save as" all the time as I don't use autosave. It's no big deal I like to give projects different titles as I progress. I am disciplined about when I save. Other people use autosave. Pick your poison they both work (and when you are backing up to a hard drive you are laughing). Yup it would be nice to have a save as button but one extra click ain't gonna hurt you.
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/16 09:37:08
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I use auto save. But I want it to add the date and time, or a sequential letter or number, before the file extension. Adding AUTO SAVE at the beginning of the file name results in bounced wave files also having AUTO SAVE at the beginning of the file name. Screws-up sorting in a file manager.
Rarely do any versions get saved here because I reset the clock with each save as. And the versions function adds the date time as part of the extension and the files do not appear in the file open browser.
I want to be able to set file name defaults for the auto save function.
My comment about this is that the OP prolly does not have a bunch of previous copies of the files to be able to trouble shoot the issue.
I am sad for him. Not admonishing him.
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/16 09:46:14
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The OP has lost his work and we hope to help him recover it. This is work from 8.x (wasn't there an autosave button with 8.x?). Anyway he says he has backups (please read earlier in thread about his backups). From what he is saying I (we?) don't think the projects could be corrupted unless he has managed to save over his external backups somehow (seems unlikely). Even then it could be recoverable as it looks like it could be an issue with his environment. This thread has nothing to do with save as. Sorry. Here is a thread that is relevant to your topic: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Feature-Request-39Save39-button-on-control-bar-m2227201.aspx
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/16 10:53:25
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"What makes you think that nobody here hasn't experienced data loss with an application?" What makes you think that I think that nobody here hasn't experienced data loss with an application? Please don't put words into my mouth. "I am willing to bet everybody here has done so." So the platform is inherently buggy? I've experienced data loss before, just not this way. And I chalked it up to my previous computer's having to max out its processing power. It would sometimes simply crash. But I'd open a previous version of the project and get back to work. I'm older than the average person here, and software architechure is an area of ignorance for me. And I keep getting the impression that Cakewalk is mainly focused on more and more sophisticated methods of data manipulation at the expense of having a stable recording/ mixing platform that gets the basic thigs right before moving on to the more elaborate, esoteric functions. Case in point: the mute buttons on the stereo busses don't work. "They work for for me!" Oh, will you shut the @%$# up? The reason they work for you is because, like 99% of the people here, you are either a) not using external inserts in your master bus or b) not using stereo busses for sub-groups. So if I have a guitars bus, a background vocals bus and a drums bus, I can't solo the busses to do any fine tuning. If I delete the external insert on the master bus, I can solo the stereo busses but that doesn't do me any good because whatever I'm hearing will be radically changed when I re-insert the hardware compressor. And a FET III works better for me than any software compressor I've tried.
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Re: X3 Destroying work
2014/08/16 11:06:01
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You have taken me totally out of context and bent it so you can vent at somebody in an aggressive manner. Never mind I will take it on the chin.
I see where this thread is going, sadly you would rather vent at people trying to help then get to the bottom of your issue it seems, been here before sadly and have become wise to it. People have already asked a few questions to help you and you haven't provided feedback. Good luck I hope you find a solution (and calm down!).
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