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Instruction on install of CbB? As suspected- they turned it in to Freeware.
Hey there I dont see any discussion about installation of Cakewalk by Bandlab. Will the Command Center be used? Do we just install Cakewalk again besides the Sonar? Any issues with it? Let me clarify: so Cakewalk is Freeware for everybody to download without limits? Will there be paid version? Not that I want to pay for it but this makes it unprofessional if anybody in the world can get it for free. So- yes, I like to pay and have exclusive features for paid clients. I cant take freeware seriously. Can you?
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB?
2018/04/15 02:19:10
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For example, do we pay to use Facebook ?
Bandlab is going with the new business model.
They give it away, the tricky part of the programming is done already anyways ? Now bought by Bandlab.
Now the base program is free, and eventually you can decide to buy into the add-ons, if you want, or not.
So, Cakewalk Platinum is now free to download and install for anyone, through the "Bandlab Assistant"
You just have to join Bandlab, using your same email and username. It's free, no catches, just free.
It's not an update, it's an upgrade . . . so you'll have to migrate any custom templates, settings etc . . . to the new folders.
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB?
2018/04/15 02:27:26
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vladasyn
...Not that I want to pay for it but this makes it unprofessional if anybody in the world can get it for free. So- yes, I like to pay and have exclusive features for paid clients. I cant take freeware seriously. Can you?
Just because CbB is free does not make it a less or unprofessional DAW software. Do bells and whistles make SONAR Platinum professional?
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB?
2018/04/15 02:37:47
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Why do we need the same e-mail? My understanding- it is free for everyone, not just those that paid for it.
I do get it- it is another company, but still. I paid for it since Sonar 4, about $120 a year, so it is over $1000. Now anyone in the world can have the same product- how is it fair?
So, ok- life is not fair. But who would take it seriously and use it for any professional production? If you were a band and there were 2 studios- one used Protools that cost $600 for just software and other- that was using Cakewalk freeware- what studio would you want to use if you had to pay for sessions hourly?
I kind of find it interesting- the ability to have networking element and record long distance. However- freeware is a buzz killer. To me- paying for the software is what supposed to (did not work with Gibson) assure future development and obligate the developer to resolve the bugs and keep up with future OS updates. How can we expect accountability if it is freeware? We cant say, "We paid for it- you must deliver!" If it turns in to entry level bloatware that beginners install, play with for a while and then abandon for professional software, all pro users will abandon it but BandLab will still have immature users that will use it just for fun. And why would you compare it to Facebook? There is nothing professional about Facebook. I would not use Facebook to produce music.
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB?
2018/04/15 02:41:45
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vladasyn
...Not that I want to pay for it but this makes it unprofessional if anybody in the world can get it for free. So- yes, I like to pay and have exclusive features for paid clients. I cant take freeware seriously. Can you?
Just because CbB is free does not make it a less or unprofessional DAW software. Do bells and whistles make SONAR Platinum professional?
What do you call "Bells and whistles"? Just curious. Giving it away for free does makes it less professional. Professional means exclusive for Pros. If anyone gets to use it, what makes my studio professional? Most trades required to get license to provide services. When you go to doctor, you expect this doctor to have degree and license, right? What makes software professional- exclusive access granted to those that willing to pay for it to become privileged exclusive users. I had an asset, not I have nothing because I use Freeware!
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My thread just got deleted? Server overload?
2018/04/15 02:49:24
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So the server got overloaded soon as I expressed opinion that turning Cakewalk in to Freeware makes it unprofessional. That is a lot of censoring! Bad start! I thought BandLab would be interested in earning our trust and will be open-minded platform that promotes diversity.
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Re: My thread just got deleted? Server overload?
2018/04/15 02:51:58
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My thread is back. Ok, I will take it as glitch.
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB?
2018/04/15 02:53:08
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☄ Helpfulby iRelevant 2018/04/15 11:21:59
You edited the OP which triggered the automatic spam blocker. I restored thethread. Next time, PM a mod if you wish to have a post/thread restored.
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Re: My thread just got deleted? Server overload?
2018/04/15 02:55:43
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Quit massing with freedom of speech! Moderators- too much human interference! No need for censoring. Let it be automated- machines know better. I trust artificial intelligence more- it is not biased.
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Re: My thread just got deleted? Server overload?
2018/04/15 02:56:48
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I am an OP- you mean thread title cant be edited? Then why would it have option to edit it?
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB?
2018/04/15 03:00:25
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The process that killed your thread is an automatic background process. A host overrode the automatic process and restored your thread. Had I not intervened yur thread would still be deleted.
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB?
2018/04/15 03:04:00
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☄ Helpfulby iRelevant 2018/04/15 11:46:48
vladasyn
I am an OP- you mean thread title cant be edited? Then why would it have option to edit it?
Editing threads can set of the spam blocker. When the spam blocker deletes an OP, the entire thread goes with it. Apparently post editing has been used in the past to introduce spam. The spam blocker is administered by the company. Hosts have no control over the process but we can restore posts deleted in error.
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB? As suspected- they turned it in to Freeware.
2018/04/15 03:50:21
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vladasyn
Hey there
I dont see any discussion about installation of Cakewalk by Bandlab. Will the Command Center be used? Do we just install Cakewalk again besides the Sonar? Any issues with it?
Let me clarify: so Cakewalk is Freeware for everybody to download without limits? Will there be paid version? Not that I want to pay for it but this makes it unprofessional if anybody in the world can get it for free. So- yes, I like to pay and have exclusive features for paid clients. I cant take freeware seriously. Can you?
Here we go again. "I dont see any discussion about installation of Cakewalk by Bandlab" Then you didn't look very far. There has been nothing but the same questions over and over again. If you look through the threads you will find loads of them. "but this makes it unprofessional... ...I cant take freeware seriously. Can you?" A lot of pro CG artists take Blender seriously. Cakewalk is the same software as Sonar. The coding hasn't changed, but now it's free. It's as serious as it ever was and the fact that it will now attract a whole load more users means it will be better supported too. There are plenty of paid alternatives available if you don't like the new business model that is rescuing Cakewalk from extinction.
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB?
2018/04/15 03:51:59
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We all just aware of Facebook censoring, sensitive to posts disappearing. Please, feel free to delete all these off topic posts, if you would. Thanks.
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB?
2018/04/15 04:01:04
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This is not Facebook. Every question posed so far in this thread has been discussed repeated. Rather than starting yet another thread, reading the BandLab announcements and recent threads may prove instructive.
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB?
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☄ Helpfulby tlw 2018/04/15 10:35:07
-10! If you don't like it, go away. The best things in life are free. 
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB?
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☄ Helpfulby Skyline_UK 2018/04/15 18:37:50
Either install and use the DAW or find something else. The b*tching and moaning from people who want to inform the world of the grave injustice which has been inflicted upon them now that it's free is getting right on my mammaries. I can't even begin to imagine how shrill these people must get in the face of a real injustice.
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB?
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB?
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☄ Helpfulby Viamichael 2018/04/16 23:19:29
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB?
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☄ Helpfulby abacab 2018/04/15 23:30:57
Hi Vlada, My REAL Job is as an Architect. ( Not I.T but real Architect - buildings) In this role, I have to admit.......I have never been asked by a client "Do you pay for your CAD software"? Clients are attracted by professional skill,reputation & results ............not by the tools I use. In corporate / govt. interactions, the main thing I must watch is that the drawing files are compatible with key CAD players esp. Autocad . This ensures relatively seamless distribution among project stakeholders. For DAWs, I believe /expect that ProTools , in respect to pro studio sharing, would be the yardstick in this regard, ( Rightly or Wrongly) . However, Quality Assurance guarantees should mostly be concerned with performance outcomes. Vlada, Your query also Begs the question 'When does a DAW become 'UNPROFESSIONAL' ? - When It Is Not Pro Tools?
- When It Costs Less Than ( Please fill In The Blank) $.................?
- When It Costs Less Than Reaper , MixBus OR Samplitude (ie: During one of their Magnificent Sales) ?
- When It Is Free ( such as Cakewalk by Bandlab )
We all have concerns about things being offered for free.It looks 'Dodgy','Cheap' etc (ie: "Nothing Comes For Free...check the fine print again" !!!) and such concerns are truly warranted. However Vlada , If I May..........Please consider the following: - The World Is Truly Changing ....and Very Rapidly. Generation X,Y,Z and now A2........look at this world in a radically different light to that of many of us who have untold 'years of wisdom under the belt' so to speak. ENTER - Meng Ru Kuok - 30 Years old - Who Is in a marvelously, tactful position to Feel, Empathize and Appropriately respond to the needs of the upcoming ( HIS) generations. Additionally, His Vision and Enthusiasm will likely ensure that the DAW we all know and love will live on,develop and (May I Suggest) completely overwhelm the DAW market. His vision , I truly believe, will be the 'NORM' by 2020.
- I Suggest, By 2025 , Payment for Service will be very different to that we currently /generally endorse. Free operational software will be 'Expected' as part of your service. (ie: In 2020 ..... "Everyone else is providing the core software for free...............why should I pay you for this core software" ?)
- By 2025 , I expect, (respectfully) few will be paying for any form of core software. It will be broadly considered a naturally,shared resource in which the providers/maintainers of such core software can harvest additional rewards, by provision of beneficial Add-Ons.
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB?
2018/04/15 09:20:37
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Vlad, this has been a big controversy with Cakewalk Sonar.
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB?
2018/04/15 09:54:52
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vladasyn
Why do we need the same e-mail? My understanding- it is free for everyone, not just those that paid for it.
Because this will link it to your existing Cakewalk account. And, if you already have SONAR installed on the same computer then the new version will make use of and import any/all 3rd party plugins that do not come bundled with CdB. Note 1 - you need to use the same username as well as email in order to link the accounts Note 2 - you may need to modify the paths the new version searches for your plugins
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB? As suspected- they turned it in to Freeware.
2018/04/15 11:43:30
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vladasyn
Hey there
I dont see any discussion about installation of Cakewalk by Bandlab. Will the Command Center be used? Do we just install Cakewalk again besides the Sonar? Any issues with it?
Let me clarify: so Cakewalk is Freeware for everybody to download without limits? Will there be paid version? Not that I want to pay for it but this makes it unprofessional if anybody in the world can get it for free. So- yes, I like to pay and have exclusive features for paid clients. I cant take freeware seriously. Can you?
There are existing treads about the install, for me it went without any problem. Look around. Search. Cakewalk has not become Freeware, not that there would be anything wrong with that in itself. Freeware is great, most of the MIDI tools for windows have been freeware (with the option for donation) for ages. I don't know where I would be without MIDI-OX, Booms Midi Translator etc. If you have the means to pay for it, I would suggest you use the Tip Jar to support and accelerate the development of CW. With a big enough tip, you can even have your name up in the about box ... and if you feel there is a connection between professionalism and money ... it would be the reward option most suitable for you. It's still early days, but maybe custom support on demand will be provided as a future paid service ? To me Cakewalk by BandLab looks and feels super professional as is. I made a small donation towards development, and think it is great that BL and Meng are not rent seekers ... but seems to understand what money is. Maybe having enough of it helps.
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB? As suspected- they turned it in to Freeware.
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☄ Helpfulby abacab 2018/04/15 23:33:45
This is the dumbest post I’ve ever read here. Do you seriously believe that the pricetag on the box determines the value of the software? What makes a tool “professional” is how well it produces the end result. Having used several other DAWs, I’m here to tell you that Cakewalk is still one of the best, even now that it’s free. It’s exactly the same professional tool it was before. If you believe the cost of your DAW is your selling point as an engineer, then by all means go out and spend thousands on the latest Pro Tools crap. It won’t make you a better engineer, but it’ll impress your clients, at least until they hear the mix.
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB? As suspected- they turned it in to Freeware.
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☄ Helpfulby Wibbles 2018/04/15 20:05:31
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This is the dumbest post I’ve ever read here.
Stick around. It won't be long before someone makes it look quite astute.
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB? As suspected- they turned it in to Freeware.
2018/04/15 19:33:03
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Some folk's will complain no matter how good they got it... It's the interwebz where anyone has an opinion and will push the "Submit" button even when no thought is made.
Just like this reply...take or leave it you can not deny the value on offer no matter what you believe is "Pro".
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB? As suspected- they turned it in to Freeware.
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☄ Helpfulby sharke 2018/04/15 20:06:02
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I cant take freeware seriously. Can you?
Yes, I can. Windows 10 is free. IE is free. Gimp is free. Youtube is free. Air is free, and I take it very seriously. If you don't want to use freeware then don't. I'm perfectly good with that, however I do want to use it. And I take it seriously.
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB? As suspected- they turned it in to Freeware.
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2018/04/15 21:40:52
Once again another pointless thread ,, we really need that FACTS sticky and soon. I'm going to abstain from answering these same questions and focus on questions about using the software.
Hope we all aren't coming across as not being very helpful but the regulars here are pretty tired of these same question over and over and over when the answers only take a little reading by people looking for the answers to what's happening.
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB? As suspected- they turned it in to Freeware.
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☄ Helpfulby abacab 2018/04/15 23:36:07
Free DAWs existed before this one. Free VSTs, Free Kontakt libraries. I don't think we are aware of the long range game plan. I would imagine part of that is making Cakewalk popular in Asia. As for free most people in other parts of the world can't afford software. So having it free means no piracy either. I think the Sonar users are just a small part of the big plan we know nothing about. Those that acquired Cakewalk are bigger than we think. They own a lot of stuff.
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Re: Instruction on install of CbB? As suspected- they turned it in to Freeware.
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I cant take freeware seriously. Can you?
Sure
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