Kroneborge has some good stuff but has only been making music for 4 years I think, he's like a younger brother and I'm trying to give him advice, I could have not been so directly...

shawn@trustmedia.tv

Kroneborge

mikey


I think you did a fine job of pointing fingers at everyone here "except" those that released a product that wasn't ready to be released yet.

Hows that for humor? ; )

+1000

mikey I think you did a fine job of pointing fingers at everyone here "except" those that released a product that wasn't ready to be released yet. Hows that for humor? ; ) +1000

Look, I've done more with X1 than you can probably imagine, quit being so negative.  There are a thousand ways to make a song...X1 was a great leap forward and your still stuck on the little things "I can't do THIS" well, use your iginuity and creativity and do THAT. I can't believe how negative people are in this forum...X1 works, I make music every day and when I have a problem I work around it...such is life...does life suck? were you "released" to soon?

I don't think so...

 
Ahh, here we go with the personal attacks.  I've listend to your songs.  They are ok.  You're not the best thing sinced sliced bread so time to deflate that ego a bit and stop running your mouth. 
 
 
For me X1 doesn't work.  I can't use it for any signficant period of time without crash after crash after crash. 
 
When X1B comes out I will try it again.  If it's stable I will upgrade if not I will either check out the competition.

I'm sorry X1 doesn't work for you, it's a fantastic program, I'm sorry if that seemed like a personal attack on you.

How  old are you, I'm 38 I bet your about 35...you are my younger brother, musicaly...

shawn@trustmedia.tv


I'm sorry X1 doesn't work for you, it's a fantastic program, I'm sorry if that seemed like a personal attack on you.

 
Apology accepted.  We are cool then.

Oh wait, I don't have Symphonic or Izotope, render those track, ifact rendar all tracks...

John


I have 8 GB in my system. I have had no real issues. Even with using the plugins Noel listed.

Do you know how hard you are pushing your system/ram while recording. It could be that your projects still are not exceeding 4 gig, therefore you are not seeing any real issues? It's just a curious question, certainly not questioning your statement in any way

Great post, brother!

codamedia

John

Do you know how hard you are pushing your system/ram while recording. It could be that your projects still are not exceeding 4 gig, therefore you are not seeing any real issues? It's just a curious question, certainly not questioning your statement in any way

Very good thought.  I don't believe I do use a lot of RAM. Every time I check its rather low and it surprises me that I don't use much RAM. Now that doesn't mean I check much though.

Next time your working with Sonar, open the Task Manager and monitor the size (memory consumption) of the SONARPDR file, not the RAM usage of the system itself. You'll get a really good handle on how much ram various plugins and VSTi's use (and see if it's released properly when removed).

great tip, I just might do that.   Should be interesting at least.

John, I think you misunderstood what I was saying.

I'm not saying to review the ram usage of the system in the task manager, I'm saying to review the ram usage of "SONARPDR.EXE" in the task manager! That's very different and will only show you the actual memory that process is using. All of the plugins will show up in this usage as they are loaded and unloaded.

As for the Sonar meter, your right - that only monitors what Sonar is doing but so does the task manager when you look at the usage of the individual file(s). What makes task manager better - is that is reads out exact numbers (ie:727,868K) , not just a little % graph that doesn't really tell you how much it is using (which in fairness is fine for casual monitoring).

It's under the "Processes Tab" in the task manager, and it's not a graph (which is the performance tab)  

If (like me) you are an enthusiast - chill (go play your guitar, piano, mongolian nose flute (delete as  appropriate) and have another beer.

I can't play my Mongolian nose flute because everytime I do I get snot in it and I keep asking the Mongolians to fix it, but they just tell me to blow my nose before playing it... What to do? What to do? 

The TM will give only what Sonar uses as a block without taking into account what JBridge and Bitbridge are using.

 
John: Thanks for that explanation. Since I don't use 64bit that doesn't apply to me, so I was not aware that those were ignored by TM. On a 32 bit system it "seems" very accurate, and anything loaded into Sonar shows up immediately.
 
Makes me wonder though - where does BitBridge and JBridge show up in Process Tab of the task manager on a 64 bit system. Do they show up as a separate process? Not for a moment would I believe Windows would completely lose track of those resources - or would I  

Makes me wonder though - where does BitBridge and JBridge show up in Process Tab of the task manager on a 64 bit system. Do they show up as a separate process? Not for a moment would I believe Windows would completely lose track of those resources - or would I

Those are listed as independent processes. Windows can't know what is going on. LOL

Don't ask me why. But it has some advantages.

that thing thats exploding??

[q]Look, I've done more with X1 than you can probably imagine, quit being so negative. There are a thousand ways to make a song...X1 was a great leap forward and your still stuck on the little things "I can't do THIS" well, use your iginuity and creativity and do THAT. I can't believe how negative people are in this forum...X1 works, I make music every day and when I have a problem I work around it...such is life...does life suck? were you "released" to soon? [/q]






Shawn its not negative when you are only speaking the truth. Im glad it works for you, but that doesnt change the fact that X1 was flawed out of the gate, no matter how you want to paint it. Why else would there need to be such extreme fixes being made in the x1b patch? Have a look at the amount of fixes being done to this if you dont believe me.  And yes, these are patch fixes and not adds in most all cases... And as far as making music, good for you. Thats why we are here isnt it?  Im 53 btw. Was I released to soon? Maybe so... But that only means I was doing music back in the 60's on 1/4 inch reel and cassette tape probably before you were even a twinkle in your daddys eye. ; )