Is CAKEWALK ever going to support M audio Axiom?

If not why?
I have tried and tried and tried and tried ...............................
to get my Axiom 49 working, but sorry no cigar.

How many people believe that ACT works like Cakewalk have stated?

http://www.cakewalk.com/PRODUCTS/SONAR/English/New/create-ACT.asp


How many feel like being take for a ride after seeing how easy it is to use ACT with Sonar?

If I get a M audio PCR... that has a controller/surface in Sonar, the moneys could have got me a Synthesizer. A REAL KEYBOARD?


With all the good people here that have giving some support why have Cakewalk not shown how to
get the settings working?

Its almost like turning a blind eye to Maudio.

Not happy, not happy at all.

Peter , it's usable with ACT, just a bit fiddly to set up, that's all.. and you've been thru mod bod's thread?
failing using ACT you can always use midi learn. there is a preset for the keyboard in ACT.

the only thing I don't like about it, say with my ozone (another m-audio thing) is that I always have to remember to set it to preset 5 before stating sonar.. I always wondered if there was a way for the computer to change the preset remotely that would be cool. I used Scott's book initially when setting mine up (maybe more detailed info in the full manual, that bit I haven't gone thru)

I notice you use it it reason also? now u notice how it sets up very easily in that? well for a while m-audio were their distributor, but some other keyboards are a bit of a pain to setup even in that. My friends really old one on his setup.

cake has access to all of the edirol / roland products and obviously they design their stuff in mind for use with sonar first and then also with other apps. I'm sure they have tested sonar with multiple none Roland configs though, Brandon or Noel or one of the QA or support people etc can tell you.

It's the same with a lot of companies..e.g. yamaha > steinberg , m audio > digi design (pro tools) and the list goes on.

lets face it "enigma" is hardly the most user friendly of set up tools also, if you have ever tried using it.

ORIGINAL: Mod Bod

... After the hard work involved, I eventually realized that it was just another collection of "fiddly things to get between me and making music so I don't fool with it anymore.

Yep...frustrating when just getting a "feature" to work correctly becomes a goal in itself. I purchased an Axiom 61 because of the initial marketing buzz around ACT. The ensuing mess of trying to get it to actually work caused me to abandon the effort very quickly. I'd much rather just make some music and use the mouse.

Probably a silly question do the 2 presets, M-Audio Axiom 49 (preset 17) and M-Audio Axiom 49 (preset 20) from the drop down list in the ACT control panel not work? Sorry do not have the Axiom have Prokeys 88

Or the other question: Is mAudio ever going to provide support for Sonar?

The way I see it is that M-Audio doesn't even support it's own hardware. Enigma is the buggiest piece of nonsense I've worked with in a long time. Without that piece of software and the disorganized help files they supply with the Axiom, it's almost hopeless.

I have an M-Audio Ozonic. Is there an ACT preset for that in the works? I've tried the Axiom ones, doesn't work.

I've set up many Axioms with SONAR displays at various stores and the way the setup and configuration is on them is nothing less than convoluted.

And THAT is the problem. I originally set mine up without Enigma although, with Enigma (when it's not crashing), it's much easier.

I think there might be some driver conflicts between M-Audio Midi gear and Sonar. If everything works without installing M-Audio drivers in Sonar, use the Sonar drivers. I experienced a similar problem with another M-Audio device that I'm still investigating. M-Audio Midisport 4X4 Aniversary Model merger -interface. It worked much better without the M-Audio drivers. Driver conflict between Midi entities seems to be the biggest porblem with Midi interfaceing into DAW software.
But what do I know, I'm a Midi Idiot.

I've got the Axiom to work great with sonar. There is a set up on here somwhere. One thing I don't get tho, why doesn't the Axiom work the same way with p5? Anyone know?

Which version of P5 do you have? 2.5 has ACT where 2 and 1 do not.

I have 2.5, I can see my preset saved and i use it in p5, but the transport controls don't work. I don' think anything work with it apart from using it a a midi keyboard lol.
Very weird as everything works great in sonar.

ACT Setup in SONAR
NOTE: This setup is generic, not aimed at a specific controller or setup of a specific controller. Some controllers have presets that work well with ACT but also have a "generic" preset. Feel free to try both. Unfortunately I only have two controllers so I most likely can't give step by step instructions on how to set up presets and settings in your specific controller.

Creating the Controller
- In SONAR’s menu choose Options, then Controllers/ Surfaces
- Click the yellow Add New Controllers/ Surfaces button
- Make sure ACT MIDI Controller is selected in the Controller/ Surface tab
- In the Input tab choose the correct MIDI input from your controller (USB1, USB2, MIDI, etc.)
o NOTE: Some MIDI controllers use multiple virtual MIDI outs over USB … one for the keys and the other for controls so be sure to use the one for controls if this is the case
- In the Output Port select None
- Click Close

Learning the Controller
- Find the Controllers/ Surfaces widget in SONAR and click the Controllers/ Surfaces Properties widget to display the ACT Properties page
- In the presets tab choose the preset for your controller
o NOTE: If you haven’t been able to get your preset working with the included preset select Default to work with a generic template
- Starting with Row 1, Cell 1 click and learn each cell to the appropriate knob and slider
o To do this mouse click the R1 cell so that it says “MIDI Learn…” … then move the first knob on your controller. That knob is now learned to that cell. Repeat this for the rest of the knobs, sliders, and buttons.
- When all the cells have been learned be sure to click the Enable checkbox in the bottom left corner of the ACT properties page to engage ACT
o If you wish ACT to ONLY control plugins and synths and ignore track view controls click the Options tab and de-select “ACT follows context”. Otherwise leave that checked.

Advanced ACT: Re-Mapping Controls
- Open the ACT Properties page and click the ACT Learn button in the top right corner so it is blue (can also be accessed from any ACT aware plugin)
- Open the plugin's GUI you want to re-map
- Move the controls on the plugin you want to remap in the order you want them mapped to ACT (for example Filter Cut, Filter Res, LoFi Depth, etc.)
- Click the cells in order in the ACT Properties box where you want them assigned
- Click the ACT Learn button again to disengage it
- There whould be a dialogue pop-up box telling you that you reassigned controls ... click yes
- Your controls should now be reassigned in the new order

ORIGINAL: mudgel

Hi Seth,
Do you really have a setup for the CME UF-8 that works? i'd love to get a complete run through of that to make mine work which is patchy at best.

Any chance you could post a complete setup process for me and others.

Yes, I do. My UF-8 is packed up now though due to a recent move, but I'll try to bust it open later today.

Seth.
Thank you it works.
I have to admit that it looks a lot easier in the Cakewalk videos.
A video from Maudio tech support on setting up an Oxygen 8 proved to be very similar again
to the way you and others have described.
I guess having tried different ways has given me a better understanding on how the keyboard
and ACT work together.

Something new to play with without spending any more money.

I THINK that the main problem I have with ACT is controllers losing their assignments when powered off. I noticed this is one of the fixes in v8 and I'm anxious to see it. Tho I am bummed ACT 2.0 wasn't part of v8, if the problem is just the port assignments going sideways then we can close that leak pretty easily I hope.

Hey guys,

Unfortunately I didn't have an opportunity to hook up and get you my UF8 config. I'm in SF for AES now and won't be back at home until next week. I'll do my best to get that setup posted next week, though. See some of you at AES hopefully!