Is Nuendo still 20-40% Better than Sonar ??

IIRC, it was Nuendo, not Samplitude.

Naahhh...

The question must be:
Is Sonar still 20-40% better than the other audio apps?

IIRC, it was Nuendo, not Samplitude.

it that better ?

20-40% ?

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Double you tea eff is Nuendo? LOL.

ORIGINAL: HammerHead

just curious

ORIGINAL: HammerHead

ORIGINAL: Phrauge

IIRC, it was Nuendo, not Samplitude.

it that better ?

Better? Historically acurate, yes. You know the problem with inside jokes? Not everyone is inside.

Yes, and about 80% of this joke came from the KvR forums

cheers,
Chris

ORIGINAL: Tonmann

Yes, and about 80% of this joke came from the KvR forums

cheers,
Chris

hmmm, I thought it started here. I recently began browsing the KVR forum, and was rather surprised when I saw references to the joke.

Nuendo is aimed at post production.

Although they all work in basically the same fashion, Sonar and Cubase are music production tools.

Whereas Nuendo is a specialist tool for post production with many different sync capabilities (which I dont use!), its aimed directly as a native competition for Pro Tools home nest of users. Basically put. Nuendo can do a load of things that Sonar cant and never will be able to. But thats fine and cool. Because Sonar cost a third of what Nuendo does! So you get much more value for money...Also to be considered is that Steinberg are a bunch of duplicitous arseholes who dont deserve a single customer!

Sonar 5 could do a lot toward putting them of the road.

You guys should get behind this company here. They have a great product, they make two way communication with their users possible, wow they actually talk to you!

Sonar 4 had real problems, most small production guys like me use DSP cards now. Poco's or UAD's. Sonar 4 was useless with these because it wouldnt loop correctly. Several of my colleagues bought it too and where like "Oh **** it dont loop". 4.03 went a long way to fix all of this and 4.04 will go even further. And then along comes 5! WOW...64 bit engine Vari-watsit, VST embedded. wow..These Cake dudes are realy doing you a favour (shame about the GUI but still you cant have everything!)....

A long time ago I wrote a letter to the MD of Cakewalk. As a user offering some opinions on how to break the nay sayers of their product. What I said was...
Basically what a company like this needs to do. Is maintain their general product edge, maintain their dialogue with their professional users to develop the product further. Stay in touch with their grass routes users offering them meaningful support and value for money....BUT very importantly, they need to embed every single possible standard setup protocol. VST, ASIO, VSTi, DX, DXi, All control surfaces etc etc all tested and ready to go. So that every single user who wants to jump ship can and can do it easily.

It looks like these prayers are going to be answered.

ORIGINAL: Jake68

Nuendo is aimed at post production.

Although they all work in basically the same fashion, Sonar and Cubase are music production tools.

Whereas Nuendo is a specialist tool for post production with many different sync capabilities (which I dont use!), its aimed directly as a native competition for Pro Tools home nest of users. Basically put. Nuendo can do a load of things that Sonar cant and never will be able to. But thats fine and cool. Because Sonar cost a third of what Nuendo does! So you get much more value for money...Also to be considered is that Steinberg are a bunch of duplicitous arseholes who dont deserve a single customer!

I guess it would be silly for me to expect a specific thing that Sonar will never be able to do? There are some guys here doing post work. MOTU's DP is also a big name in Post work.....I actually hear that name more than I hear Nuendo 'round here(Nuendo). but that's neither here nor there, other than there isn't much it does, that Sonar can't do. And it doesn't support the formats or hardware Nuendo does.

BUT very importantly, they need to embed every single possible standard setup protocol. VST, ASIO, VSTi, DX, DXi, All control surfaces etc etc all tested and ready to go. So that every single user who wants to jump ship can and can do it easily.

It looks like these prayers are going to be answered.

This is so important, that the music industry standard ProTools doesn't do it. DP which I hear is the favorite for post, doesn't do it.

Jake, don't take any of this as Argumentive. I truly would like to know what makes people willing to pay $2000 for a computer program. I'm just not seeing the value. Heck I don't see the value in $1000 for Samplitude, which I think has even more features than Nuendo. I'm not a pro producer, or musician, where money doesn't matter, but I earn enough @ my dayjob, to where I could afford it, so let's not go there. It's not that I can't afford Nuendo or Samplitude, I just don't see the value.


You're a pro, and I've got your ear, so without getting defensive, I'm just asking what features do you find the value. Other than stability.........that's beginning to become a subjective term.

If you don't mind, thanks.

Is Nuendo still a bug infested dongle useing P.O.S..
Read this http://melodiefabriek.nl/2005/09/12/arrrgh-where-is-my-dongle/92 and http://forum.nuendo.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=6793&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=.

Or is there a certain status to having Nuendo over Cubase?

I've definitely seen this. If you're truly hardcore, you use Nuendo. Cubase is good for starting out...

Of course, for most people quality has everything to do with the glamour of the pricetag:

Nuendo - $2000
Cubase SX - $600
Sonar 4 PE - $600

As we can see, Nuendo is over THREE TIMES better than Cubase or Sonar - so really it's like 300% better!

ORIGINAL: jamester
Of course, for most people quality has everything to do with the glamour of the pricetag:

Nuendo - $2000
Cubase SX - $600
Sonar 4 PE - $600

As we can see, Nuendo is over THREE TIMES better than Cubase or Sonar - so really it's like 300% better!

But wait, there's more!!

SawStudio $2500
Magix Sequoia $3000 (2500 Euros)

So SawStudio is 20% better than Nuendo!
And Sequoia is 50% better than Nuendo!
Ladies and gentlemen, I think we have a winner!!

Where will it ever end?

All that money for Four point cuts, plus a whole host of Post production and broadcast features....and stability!

Sequoia is an enhanced version of Samplitude that has additional features such as four point cross-fade editing, which is useful for editing live orchestral performances. But I think Samplitude fills the needs for the majority of people. With Samplitude or Sequoia you have complete and final stereo track wave editing, mastering, and CD and DVD-A burning.....as well as the ability to lock a clip!!! Oh and it does fast forward and rewind too! Samplitude does handle audio very well (you can hit record for example...when you are recording...simple i know, but an annoyance in Sonar.)

I think it is worth it!

BUT it isn't SONAR...and it is not trying to be SONAR. It is aimed at the broadcast market....not the music composition market....where Sonar is great!

Peace

Neil