pwalpwal
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/07/15 05:38:46
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bitman Got an email this morning that they are hiring support reps. Coders too btw.
let's hope they're additional employees, and not just replacements! andertonSo if multiple support people reach the end of their shelf life at the same time and bail ("I'm leaving, I got a much better job - catching rabid dogs"), you have to find replacements quickly. However then they have to be trained.
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bbach
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/07/15 13:24:59
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It would be interesting to know if there were recent layoffs,salary/benefit/man hour reductions or some other onerous working conditions imposed. Most people seeking tech support are not abusive, even when extremely frustrated. If indeed, Cakewalk has experienced both an unexpected surge in sales with a simultaneous inexplicable random defection of a significant fraction of tech support personnel, just at the moment they are instituting a new support regimen at a time that the parent company is having a financial downgrade, that is some unfortunate timing. I guess the people who are getting fairly prompt help are just not posting. The "off the hook" surge in sales will be short lived if this situation is not resolved satisfactorily in short order.
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/07/15 18:51:08
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bbach...at a time that the parent company is having a financial downgrade... I guess you missed my reply the last time you posted that. In any event, the success of the 2016 guitars notwithstanding (which did not factor into the Moody's report), Cakewalk is a separate division that's responsible for its own finances. The "off the hook" surge in sales will be short lived if this situation is not resolved satisfactorily in short order. As I already pointed out, more support people and developers are being hired. Hiring more support people seems like a logical way to address the need for hiring more support people. I guess the people who are getting fairly prompt help are just not posting. This is an internet forum; few people post about things that are working properly. As to "Most people seeking tech support are not abusive, even when extremely frustrated." I would agree that most people are not abusive, but the significant number of ones who are poison the process as much as abusive posters poison forums. Just look at the mean-spirited comments here when people are upset about something, and about how Cakewalk's developers don't know what they're doing,the company knows nothing about quality control, there will never be any fixes to staff view, they don't know how to run a business, they're going to promise monthly updates but just take everyone's money and not deliver anything, they're going to change SONAR's name next year so they won't have to do any more liftetime updates, etc. Then imagine those people talking on the phone...and imagine support people trying to reason with them. That hasn't changed in all the years I've worked with support people and seen what they go through, going back to the days of Passport Designs and Master Tracks Pro. The Gibson support team keeps recordings of their interactions. I've often thought of starting a thread on Harmony Central with transcripts of some of the greatest hits. You wouldn't believe it. My favorite for today was the customer yelling at one of the guys in support because Guitar Center shipped him a Fender guitar instead of the Gibson he ordered. He couldn't quite grasp the concept that it really wasn't Gibson's responsibility to check up on whether Guitar Center was shipping the right guitars. Because it was a Gibson guitar he didn't get, it was clearly and obviously Gibson's fault, and it was up to the Gibson customer service person to make it right. If I wasn't about to go home I'd post the mother of all tech support stories, which happened to Passport Designs. Maybe I'll find time later on.
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bitman
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/07/15 20:10:17
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Anderton The Gibson support team keeps recordings of their interactions. I've often thought of starting a thread on Harmony Central with transcripts of some of the greatest hits. You wouldn't believe it.
Oh bring it that sounds like good fun.
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/07/16 13:40:59
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If the issue is that Technical Support has a high turnover due to the stress of unpleasant customers as has been intimated previously, perhaps higher compensation or other retention strategies should be considered. In my case, I am beginning to care less about Technical Support and more about Accounting, whom I hope will promptly process the refund for Rapture Pro that I will request when my patience is soon exhausted. In my 34 years as a Cakewalk user, this is the first time I have been in a situation like this.
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/07/16 17:16:42
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I've been using Cakewalk since 1963. Of course back then it was called Tape Recording. Tech support for Cakewalk was helpful for me. they were friendly, helpful and solved my issue. (this was a few years ago). someone here earlier said they are hiring new support people. that's a good sign. I would like to see people here have tech support problems solved. because I think sonar works really hard on their products not to have to many users need to call tech support. but it is inevitable, people will always need support. with all this being said, Cakewalk changed some things in tech support and Ray Minus posted that here a few weeks back. saying links had changed (they are trying to better their TS system) so all I can say is make sure you are following the correct links, following the correct page to TS and try to explain your problem in an easy manner to understand.
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/07/18 11:10:21
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I am having a similar issue. I used to be able to call in and talk to someone. Now you you have schedule a call back and every time I attempt to schedule a time, there are no time slots. I understand people are being hired and trained but this isn't working. There should be some type of option if all the slots are filled. I've used cakewalk products since the beginning and one of the best things about it was the access to technical support. Not having tech support readily available and with this flawed scheduling system, that is very disappointing. Joe
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/07/19 05:31:46
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I still have a report that is 6 month old but still not attended. Still the status stated 'NEW' & I am still waiting for an answer in big patience. I can't imagine how will they handle all the reports flowing after the 'mac' version launch even now with one os it takes month without any reply from the kind people at Cakewalk. Keep it up Cakewalk!
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/07/19 14:56:35
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This terrifies me. I am on X3 Producer about to upgrade to the Platinum lifetime. I have 3 big [for me] projects coming up the back half of this year. I wanted to upgrade and use it for the projects but the lack of support should I run into a problem gives me pause. What would be the point of paying to upgrade if I wont be using the upgrade to do these projects or if issues and lack of support will put me behind in my time frame on these projects.
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bitman
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/07/19 15:30:55
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stm113cw This terrifies me. I am on X3 Producer about to upgrade to the Platinum lifetime. I have 3 big [for me] projects coming up the back half of this year. I wanted to upgrade and use it for the projects but the lack of support should I run into a problem gives me pause. What would be the point of paying to upgrade if I wont be using the upgrade to do these projects or if issues and lack of support will put me behind in my time frame on these projects.
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chuckebaby
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/07/19 15:57:49
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stm113cw This terrifies me. I am on X3 Producer about to upgrade to the Platinum lifetime. I have 3 big [for me] projects coming up the back half of this year. I wanted to upgrade and use it for the projects but the lack of support should I run into a problem gives me pause. What would be the point of paying to upgrade if I wont be using the upgrade to do these projects or if issues and lack of support will put me behind in my time frame on these projects.
you have no support for X3 either. im not sure I understand your argument. support already expired for X3, so what do you do now ? use the forums. I understand your concern but X3 and platinum have a lot of similarity's. we will be here
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/07/21 18:48:49
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I tried the phone number on the link that Keith Albright posted. It does not work! I have tried using customer support email and got the run around. I am also wondering what is going on? The phone number says that cakewalk no longer has phone support. That all support must be done from the web support page. Which you get the run around on. I am very frustrated with this.
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/07/25 18:00:39
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Had I known there was no phone support I would not have renewed my $99 annual subscription. This is really starting to feel like a rip off. I have a 2-month old unresolved issue that was supposedly elevated to a higher level tech-support. I have heard nothing since. Cakewalk's CEO should send an email to its subscribers explaining what is going on. That would be the right thing to do. I almost upgraded to platinum. Glad that I didn't. At least Studio One returned my phone calls and emails.
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easyjoey
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/07/28 09:26:30
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I'm very frustrated as well. i would rather pay the yearly upgrade fee and have phone support instead of the run-around we are getting. Again, I love the product but this lack of tech-support is nonsense. I have tried for a couple weeks to schedule a call and no times are available. Emailing cakewalk is a waste of time. I hope someone is listening. Cakewalk has come so far but this issue could undo all of that. Joe
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/07/28 10:25:57
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easyjoey I'm very frustrated as well. i would rather pay the yearly upgrade fee and have phone support instead of the run-around we are getting. Again, I love the product but this lack of tech-support is nonsense. I have tried for a couple weeks to schedule a call and no times are available. Emailing cakewalk is a waste of time. I hope someone is listening. Cakewalk has come so far but this issue could undo all of that. Joe
im not tech support, but is there anything I can help you with ? Start a new thread, i'll be the first one there.
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/11/03 14:15:14
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Rendering to an MP3 used to work, however, since the last SPLAT update, it no longer does. Can't seem to call support nor get an email answer... any suggestions other than changing platforms? Had pro audio 9 but disc and serial number for that got accidently discarded. John
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/11/03 14:26:13
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RVR64 Rendering to an MP3 used to work, however, since the last SPLAT update, it no longer does. Can't seem to call support nor get an email answer... any suggestions other than changing platforms? Had pro audio 9 but disc and serial number for that got accidently discarded. John
Hi. I use the mp3 patch made by Aaron. It can be found hereAll the best. Edit: Directd download https://app.box.com/s/op4w4so2u3orjkv2hh9ix3hryg3y23sd//
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BobF
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/11/03 15:12:43
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RVR64 Rendering to an MP3 used to work, however, since the last SPLAT update, it no longer does. Can't seem to call support nor get an email answer... any suggestions other than changing platforms? Had pro audio 9 but disc and serial number for that got accidently discarded. John
How long ago did you report the report the problem?
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ampfixer
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/11/03 22:28:38
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I don't think he has a legit copy of a product to get support. He references Pro Audio 9.
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/11/04 01:59:28
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On the other hand technical support does appear to be dead.
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/11/04 07:54:56
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bigfrog On the other hand technical support does appear to be dead.
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Brando
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/11/04 08:02:14
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ampfixer I don't think he has a legit copy of a product to get support. He references Pro Audio 9.
I think the Pro audio reference was for the mp3 encoder. +1 for Aaron's mp3 patch linked to above.
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/11/04 09:15:56
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rworkman My thoughts exactly. The first time a ran TH3, all was fine. The next session, NONE of the components were available. It prompted me to authorize. I clicked the authorize button, and of course it asked for a serial, so I canceled, and clicked the run as demo, which gave me 15 days. I ran till that until it expired, and had to do it again, while I still wait for a response from cake.
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pwalpwal
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/11/04 09:22:44
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6 months since the OP! longer since the agents were all booked... hey cake, any plans to get some agents unbooked?? (or just to get some agents?) or are we witnessing the end of the "call back" thing?
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bigfrog
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/11/04 10:00:48
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I didn't even bother calling as I recognize my issue probably would not be resolved via the phone... I submitted a ticket 3 weeks ago and all I got was a link to the online help, when I said that did not help (I was more than aware of the help and the level of detail in my ticket should have tipped them off to that) I did not hear anything for a week. Then I followed up and got an email reply telling me to try again after the latest Sonar update, when I said that did not help I did not hear anything for a week. Then I followed up and got an email reply telling me that my ticket was escalated to so-and-so. I replied thanks and I did not hear anything for a week, then I followed up and that was 3 days ago and still have not heard anything. At this point I just want the $200 I spent six weeks back for the Platinum upgrade as its incompatible with some of my hardware.
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/11/04 10:13:51
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Jeez bigfrog........judging by the system specs in your sig you have been in the support queue since about 1991! Jokes aside I hope you get an answer soon. Very frustrating!
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/11/04 11:11:05
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Tenfoot - The fact that i can't get 64-bit Sonar to run on my 16-bit OS is driving me nuts!!! ;)
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/11/04 11:15:45
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bigfrog Tenfoot - The fact that i can't get 64-bit Sonar to run on my 16-bit OS is driving me nuts!!! ;)
Haha - unbelievable, what with all that ram and two massive hard drives!
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/11/05 06:38:26
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Coming back to original subject post re support - I have been having all sorts of difficulties with me upgrade to SONAR Platinum since I grabbed the life-time support option. Had Sonar Pro before this. I am not a 'heavy' user this being more a pastime where I spend sometime doodling around with all the gear that I have. I too could not schedule a "call", email support did respond within 3 days of my initial request, and I give them credit for that. They did continue to respond a bit following that, then the support person I was dealing with said he had to pass on my problem to someone else, maybe it went beyond his level of expertise. After that, no news, nothing in the mail, no support! Surely the team at SONAR has tested the s/ware in all or most conventional conceivable setups - and I can imagine there are a gazillion such hardware configurations out there. Having a system where Professional worked well enough that I never had to complain for the relatively simple work I started off with, I was completely surprised and upset when the upgrade failed so miserably! BSOD every time I attempt to fire up Platinum. After that I even reinstalled Pro but that refuses to work now as well!
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Re: Is Technical Support Dead?
2016/11/05 07:37:56
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A BSOD usually means a serious driver problem which doesn't technically have much to do with Sonar except that your new installation might be trying to access drivers that your previous version did not, and those drivers are crapping out. Make sure all your drivers are up to date and you have disabled (in device manager) all audio devices you do not want to use.
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