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Is there a definitive guide/tutorial/manual somewhere regarding CAL Scripts?
Hi, guys. Pretty straightforward. I just want to read up on CAL. Particularly the scripts included with Sonar then to a lesser extent about the scripting language itself and other useful scripts that may be floating around out there. The Reference Guide is a little sparse on details and it's hard to really nail down the best research materials on it all using the googley moogleys. I'm assuming someone somewhere has put together an easy to digest guide on the topic for CAL n00bs. Wasn't quite ready to dig into it until now. Thanks.
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BobF
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Re: Is there a definitive guide/tutorial/manual somewhere regarding CAL Scripts?
2015/09/29 16:02:38
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I just looked at the pdf manual for PA9 and it only has a few pages and refers to online help for a complete function reference. I don't recall seeing anything more complete in any of the later manuals. That section does refer to a CAL tutorial by "Clockwork Music"  Searching for 'Clockwork Music CAL tutorial' turned up: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cakewalk/conversations/topics/4784
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Re: Is there a definitive guide/tutorial/manual somewhere regarding CAL Scripts?
2015/09/29 16:21:54
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Beepster
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Re: Is there a definitive guide/tutorial/manual somewhere regarding CAL Scripts?
2015/09/29 16:26:50
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Thanks, Bob. There seems to be a site going by "hexichord" that boasts a bunch of CAL stuff but I'm always wary of clicking willy nilly. Anyone know what that sites about?
And then there's the devexchange I've seen referenced around here usually in older threads. Never checked it out if it's even still a thing. That struck me as maybe more official?
CAL Script searches does bring up a lot of odd stuff but none of it seems released/put together by Cake themselves. I'm getting the impression this all really old school... thus my confusion.
Just don't want to go on a wild goose chase unless absolutely necessary and I know there are folks around here who know/use/write this stuff.
I think scook posted some stuff ages ago on the topic (and I'm pretty sure writes in the language) but damned if I know where that all is.
Not an emergency... just want to do some reading on it since I will be playing around some of it soon and always like to understand things beyond the basics.
Cheers.
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Re: Is there a definitive guide/tutorial/manual somewhere regarding CAL Scripts?
2015/09/29 18:20:40
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The best site I found is this one, which also has a link to a CAL Programming Guide (dated 24FEB2010) on it. There is actually a bunch of cool stuff on that site, but the CAL Programming Guide may be the specific thing you are after (and more than you wanted to know!).
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Re: Is there a definitive guide/tutorial/manual somewhere regarding CAL Scripts?
2015/09/29 19:44:08
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There used to be a Cakewalk hosted page on the developer's exchange. I have spent way too much time trying to find it. It looks like Cakewalk is more than tired of supporting this and wishes it would just go away. After all, if you have a step sequencer what more do you need to make music?
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Re: Is there a definitive guide/tutorial/manual somewhere regarding CAL Scripts?
2015/09/29 19:54:59
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Re: Is there a definitive guide/tutorial/manual somewhere regarding CAL Scripts?
2015/09/29 22:01:47
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I have a folder of Cal scripts and resources on my Onedrive. See my signature.
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Re: Is there a definitive guide/tutorial/manual somewhere regarding CAL Scripts?
2015/09/30 09:58:51
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Thanks muchly, doods. Starting to make sense now why info is so elusive. Not sure exactly why Cake would pull away from such a seemingly well known and useful (if not rather nerdy/complex) feature. I guess they want things to be more modern/user friendly but they could probably make some kind of "CAL Tool" or something to acheive that. Then again maybe that's what some of those MIDI FX things are supposed to be. As far as I can tell though some of the CAL stuff is the more effective (or ONLY) way to accomplish certain things. The idea of hacking up our own tools is pretty appealing as well even though I'm sure every possible useful function has already been written.
Maybe keeping the wormhole/backdoor the scripts use is preventing other development from happening.
Anyhoo... thanks again. Hopefully I'll be able to actually help others in the future with what I learn.
Cheers.
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Re: Is there a definitive guide/tutorial/manual somewhere regarding CAL Scripts?
2015/10/02 16:43:19
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If and when they end CAL they'll never get another dollar from me.
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Re: Is there a definitive guide/tutorial/manual somewhere regarding CAL Scripts?
2015/10/02 18:18:31
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slartabartfast
There used to be a Cakewalk hosted page on the developer's exchange. I have spent way too much time trying to find it.
When I found the site I linked above, I was doing a generic search and Google returned Cake's developers link, but it was pointing to a dead page. I think that link has since fallen off the Google search, but I was unable to find any "programming guide" that wasn't associated with a third party site. I am fairly certain that CAL is baked into the SONAR code, so is unlikely to see it "vanish" without a significant overhaul. There is really no reason to go to the trouble of removing it that I can see, but is also unlikely to see further development.
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Re: Is there a definitive guide/tutorial/manual somewhere regarding CAL Scripts?
2015/10/03 04:52:56
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Noël has talked about CAL a few times. What I understand is that it will no longer be developed and the current CAL scripts included in Sonar will be the only ones for which hooks in Sonar will be preserved. So while there are tons of scripts out there, over time Sonar will no longer be able to run any scripts but those included in Sonar.
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Re: Is there a definitive guide/tutorial/manual somewhere regarding CAL Scripts?
2015/10/03 07:56:34
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mudgel
So while there are tons of scripts out there, over time Sonar will no longer be able to run any scripts but those included in Sonar.
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Re: Is there a definitive guide/tutorial/manual somewhere regarding CAL Scripts?
2015/10/03 12:28:18
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Brain waves, or cerebral implant, or the software should just know.
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Re: Is there a definitive guide/tutorial/manual somewhere regarding CAL Scripts?
2015/10/03 13:03:52
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http://bikexprt.com/calfiles/index.htm I have an interactive tutorial from back in the proaudio days, and if I find it, I'll be sure to post it.
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Re: Is there a definitive guide/tutorial/manual somewhere regarding CAL Scripts?
2015/10/03 20:26:47
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mudgel
Noël has talked about CAL a few times. What I understand is that it will no longer be developed and the current CAL scripts included in Sonar will be the only ones for which hooks in Sonar will be preserved.
Is it really such a problem? Surely, internally, things like Take Lanes are packed in APIs of some sort, and exposing those shouldn't have any consequences? mudgel
... over time Sonar will no longer be able to run any scripts but those included in Sonar.
That will be sad. I wanted to improve on the one I use often.
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Re: Is there a definitive guide/tutorial/manual somewhere regarding CAL Scripts?
2015/10/05 16:07:19
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I don't use any of the scripts included in Sonar ... but I have a number of scripts that I use hundreds of times a session. The simplest is to insert a patch change event before a note ... one keyboard shortcut key, one patch number, done. The implementation in Sonar for the same thing takes about 20 times longer .. from half a second to 10 or 15 seconds of mousing. Another changes patches to key switches and another changes keyswitches to patch changes. Another changes all events to a certain channel, unfortunately necessary because how platinum deals with midi tracks now.
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