Its a sad day but I can't take anymore

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Re:Its a sad day but I can't take anymore 2011/04/29 15:28:47 (permalink)
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Folks...regardless of what you read in my message I assure you I am not looking for the perfect DAW; I know there is no such thing. I never said that. What I can not and will not accept is the amount of lost work due to regular freeze-ups. Simple.
I have been using the same exact procedure for many years now as well as mostly the same signal path and plug-ins. I did replace an old FW-410 with a Fast track ultra about a month and a half ago but that is it. You may want to think that I am upset about something that is "User error" or configuration problems but I can assure you , it is not my MO to throw my hands in the air without looking into my system/setup or work habits for the problem/solution first.

Truth be told it is not every day or every 2 or 3 times I use the software that I get the freeze. It IS random but random comes more often than I can deal with at this time.

This isn't a forum suicide either I clearly said that after 6 months or so I would take a look back here and see what is going on.
I appreciate the support from some and don't appreciate the smarmy attitudes from others who have not had the same experience I have had. I am pleased many of you are able to use X1 I hope this does not change.

I have really enjoyed my time with cakewalk it has been an exciting journey for me and my music but for the moment I need to back off till it is fixed up. I am convinced it is the software and not me at least 7 out of 10 times. That's enough of an issue for me to have made the decision I have.

Keep recording and I hope to see many of you again down the road here at cakewalk.

mark


So what about answering the post directly above this one from bit?  if X1 is crashing on you all the time, why is it necessary for the dramatic exit instead of just returning to your previous version of sonar that worked?

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Re:Its a sad day but I can't take anymore 2011/04/29 16:02:43 (permalink)
I don't get any of this kind of stuff.

It's just people with more money than sense finding something didn't fix their desire for what new hit they thought a new version was supposed to bring them.

Ya know a real serious issue like asking to have chocolate sprinkles on yer ice cream and then finding out they didn't taste as good as you imagined.

Man there's plenty of people round  about that would dream of having the luxury of considering problems like the latest version of Sonar being below par.

I didn't buy X1 because I couldn't see what it offers over what I have already, I still can't.  No big deal perhaps it will offer something that appeals to me in the next few incarnations.

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Re:Its a sad day but I can't take anymore 2011/04/29 18:18:32 (permalink)
I suspect some of this is because some like the dramatic exit...and some don't feel that taking a step back is just that. 

The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate.

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Re:Its a sad day but I can't take anymore 2011/04/29 19:19:27 (permalink)
[sarcasm]
Good to know that SONAR is the only DAW that freezes up.
[/sarcasm]

 
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Re:Its a sad day but I can't take anymore 2011/04/29 19:33:10 (permalink)
Triumph.. Jonbouy are you kidding me? I am far from stomping my feet and have said TWICE now that I am not LEAVING CAKEWALK all dramatic like. I have been very clear that I will be coming back in 6 months or so to see where things are at. When that time period has come around I will gladly take a look see and most certainly upgrade to a fixed and stable version. So many of you people read only what you want in post's and don't bother to actually read the words.

I wanted Cakewalk to hear from me my frustration and intent to get other software that isn't so Freeze-prone.

Beagle (pauses and takes deep breath) please refer to my original post, all the actual words that were typed out. You know what? Here I will go get it and post it so you don't have to do ANYTHING but simply read...


Sure I can go back to Sonar 8.5.3 where I will have a stable program, but I am not. For me to really learn new software I need to focus on that program and not have the ability to simply go to what I know and learn it (the new software) better later. Nope that doesn't work for me, I am way to much a path of least resistance guy.


To add to my reasoning, if this X1 incarnation doesn't get where it needs to be in a reasonable amount of time then I am stuck using 2 year old software with no chance of upgrades or version support. It is better for me, based on my knowledge of myself that I cut the ties for a while and learn whatever new software I end up going with.

It is strange how many of you (not all of course) have lashed out at me for speaking my mind and sharing  my experience and frustration. You act as though I have personally insulted or attacked you in some way. What is it, do you fancy yourselves as some kind of self appointed Cakewalk Gate-keepers?

I will repeat another point sorely missed in my comments..."I sincerely hope you all continue having the good fortune you have been blessed with by having this software work out for you. I sincerely do....have a nice day! :)

Mark
post edited by 6stringsat100mph - 2011/04/29 19:40:33
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Re:Its a sad day but I can't take anymore 2011/04/29 21:00:19 (permalink)
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Triumph.. Jonbouy are you kidding me? I am far from stomping my feet and have said TWICE now that I am not LEAVING CAKEWALK all dramatic like. I have been very clear that I will be coming back in 6 months or so to see where things are at. When that time period has come around I will gladly take a look see and most certainly upgrade to a fixed and stable version. So many of you people read only what you want in post's and don't bother to actually read the words.

Kindly refrain from telling me what I read and what I don't.  I've read and comprehended every word you've written here.



I wanted Cakewalk to hear from me my frustration and intent to get other software that isn't so Freeze-prone.

I've done that before, albeit not by threatening/promising to leave. But each to their own.  I'm not standing in your way here.



Beagle (pauses and takes deep breath) please refer to my original post, all the actual words that were typed out. You know what? Here I will go get it and post it so you don't have to do ANYTHING but simply read...


Sure I can go back to Sonar 8.5.3 where I will have a stable program, but I am not. For me to really learn new software I need to focus on that program and not have the ability to simply go to what I know and learn it (the new software) better later. Nope that doesn't work for me, I am way to much a path of least resistance guy.


To add to my reasoning, if this X1 incarnation doesn't get where it needs to be in a reasonable amount of time then I am stuck using 2 year old software with no chance of upgrades or version support. It is better for me, based on my knowledge of myself that I cut the ties for a while and learn whatever new software I end up going with.

What reasoning is this?

If I have an Abacus that still works as intended for the job required why do I need Abacus X1?



It is strange how many of you (not all of course) have lashed out at me for speaking my mind and sharing  my experience and frustration. You act as though I have personally insulted or attacked you in some way. What is it, do you fancy yourselves as some kind of self appointed Cakewalk Gate-keepers?
 

Call me a Gate-keeper would you?  Is that some kind of personal slight?  I spoke in a general way, that I felt having Sonar X1 to complain about was a 'high class' problem.  I still think that. I didn't get personal, you did.



I will repeat another point sorely missed in my comments..."I sincerely hope you all continue having the good fortune you have been blessed with by having this software work out for you. I sincerely do....have a nice day! :)

Mark


Thanks Mark.  You too.




post edited by Jonbouy - 2011/04/29 21:07:34

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Re:Its a sad day but I can't take anymore 2011/04/29 21:05:54 (permalink)
6stringsat100mph


Triumph.. Jonbouy are you kidding me? I am far from stomping my feet and have said TWICE now that I am not LEAVING CAKEWALK all dramatic like. I have been very clear that I will be coming back in 6 months or so to see where things are at. When that time period has come around I will gladly take a look see and most certainly upgrade to a fixed and stable version. So many of you people read only what you want in post's and don't bother to actually read the words.

I wanted Cakewalk to hear from me my frustration and intent to get other software that isn't so Freeze-prone.

Beagle (pauses and takes deep breath) please refer to my original post, all the actual words that were typed out. You know what? Here I will go get it and post it so you don't have to do ANYTHING but simply read...


Sure I can go back to Sonar 8.5.3 where I will have a stable program, but I am not. For me to really learn new software I need to focus on that program and not have the ability to simply go to what I know and learn it (the new software) better later. Nope that doesn't work for me, I am way to much a path of least resistance guy.


To add to my reasoning, if this X1 incarnation doesn't get where it needs to be in a reasonable amount of time then I am stuck using 2 year old software with no chance of upgrades or version support. It is better for me, based on my knowledge of myself that I cut the ties for a while and learn whatever new software I end up going with.

It is strange how many of you (not all of course) have lashed out at me for speaking my mind and sharing  my experience and frustration. You act as though I have personally insulted or attacked you in some way. What is it, do you fancy yourselves as some kind of self appointed Cakewalk Gate-keepers?

I will repeat another point sorely missed in my comments..."I sincerely hope you all continue having the good fortune you have been blessed with by having this software work out for you. I sincerely do....have a nice day! :)

Mark

Ok.  then just go.  why keep up the drama?  if another DAW will work better for you then more power to you.  I'm all for using what's best for you.  but why start and continue the dramatic exit?  just go.

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Re:Its a sad day but I can't take anymore 2011/04/30 02:05:01 (permalink)
Kindly refrain from telling me what I read and what I don't.  I've read and comprehended every word you've written here.
No. No you haven't or you wouldn't have repeated this:
I've done that before, albeit not by threatening/promising to leave. But each to their own.  I'm not standing in your way here.
If I have an Abacus that still works as intended for the job required why do I need Abacus X1?
What happens when your abacus manufacturer comes up with a new technology for numerical calculations that make your life easier and more cost effective? You stick with your old Abacus because it works just fine for you?
Yea, good logical argument!!



Ok.  then just go.  why keep up the drama?  if another DAW will work better for you then more power to you.  I'm all for using what's best for you.  but why start and continue the dramatic exit?  just go.


Am I on candid camera? Because I can't imagine anything this absurd...but let me try one more time.
I never said I was leaving cakewalk for good nor was I being dramatic. I very clearly and calmly in my original post outlined both my frustration and my sadness to be where I am at with Cakewalk at the present time.
Why don't I "Just go then? Well let me see....#1. I never said I was leaving cake or the forum permanently and sadly,  I have been responding to comments made to me about my position that are absolutely false and if left alone would not be at all representative of the issues and points I have been trying to get across to cakewalk. So in short...I am doing my best to not let you and others speak for me.

Thanks for your thoughtful response and concerns though I can tell you are sensitive to those of us that have had nothing but heartache over this upgrade. There are many other folks that have been dealing with unusable software, not just me. You're all heart though, that's for certain! Thanks for the helpful and relevant commentary in this thread, it has really been informative. 
Have a nice weekend.

Mark
post edited by 6stringsat100mph - 2011/04/30 04:42:33
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Re:Its a sad day but I can't take anymore 2011/04/30 02:48:30 (permalink)
No need to leave this community even if you leave the software.
I hold my balls up high and even ask people here a question about a different DAW when i refuse to go and post at it's native forum.

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Re:Its a sad day but I can't take anymore 2011/04/30 04:21:47 (permalink)
I hold my balls up high and even ask people here a question about a different DAW when i refuse to go and post at it's native forum.


You have another DAW?

Why were we not informed?  We are the Gate-Keepers we need to know...

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Re:Its a sad day but I can't take anymore 2011/04/30 11:54:35 (permalink)
Jonbouy



I hold my balls up high and even ask people here a question about a different DAW when i refuse to go and post at it's native forum.


You have another DAW?

Why were we not informed?  We are the Gate-Keepers we need to know...


Oh he told us, but he tried to keep it from you to avoid the surchaurges (ooups!).

 
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re:Its a sad day but I can't take anymore 2011/04/30 11:59:17 (permalink)
SeveredVesper


...I hold my balls up high ...

It's taking every ounce of inner strength I have not to comment on this.  Oh wait...
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Re:Its a sad day but I can't take anymore 2011/04/30 12:20:13 (permalink)
 Oh that's it, if you're leaving I'm leaving too...I'm so out a here

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Re:Its a sad day but I can't take anymore 2011/04/30 16:03:38 (permalink)
I've been outside barbecuing and doing yard work.  Did I miss anything?




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Re:Its a sad day but I can't take anymore 2011/04/30 16:59:44 (permalink)
This is my final comment in this thread I assure you.
This deteriorating topic has truly been a powerful learning lesson for me as to just how far off the track regular, decent folks allow themselves to go when someones or their experiences don't align with the general consensus of the tribal elders.

You make me out to be some trouble maker or even a villain simply because you don't like what I have to say regarding my issues with this program. Some of you even made some stuff up and were then completely convinced that it was accurate and I had actually said these make pretend tid bits of your imagination.

I was part of the hip crowd here many years ago and remember very clearly the strain it put on my everyday life in dealing with the various personalities on a day to day basis. We were pretty nasty to each other and certainly to newcomers and guests. We thought we were the Cakewalk big shots just exactly like you kids are acting here now.

It is so laughable that I cant even find a reason to be mad at your rudeness and unwarranted hostility. You wouldn't act like this in the real world as we wouldn't of either back in the day.

So laugh it up and beat em up and try and keep positive all the while you are standing guard over the cakewalk compound.

Oh yea and just so you understand you were never asked by cakewalk to insult those that disagree with you. And Newsflash you don't work here either. You are just the current group that will be gone and replaced by new people within a year or so.

It is amazing how little we learn as we go....I mean try and think of a couple ways where you have actually helped someone or even contributed to this forum in a positive way. Probably zero huh? But I bet you really gave it to some dummy that had the nerve to speak up and make a statement or even simply ask for help. Way to go tough guy

Good luck..Hope you have largely moved on in 6 months when I return to see what cake has done with this festering wound that is X1.

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Mark
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Re:Its a sad day but I can't take anymore 2011/04/30 17:07:48 (permalink)
In my humble opinion, you're taking this way, way too seriously.  Isn't life better spent enjoying the good things, and ignoring the bad?  Otherwise, there's so much bad, you end up miserable and isolated.  Use what works.  For you.  Don't use what doesn't work.  You seem passionate about your work.  Focus on that.  Ignore everything that detracts from that.  Even me....
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Re:Its a sad day but I can't take anymore 2011/04/30 19:33:17 (permalink)
Russell.Whaley


I've been outside barbecuing and doing yard work.  Did I miss anything?


Hi Russell, no nothin' to see here, just me and Mark are out of here. I would start my own meltdown thread but I'm just too lazy

Just joking Mark, I have Pro Tools 8 M-Powered and just learning that, I've learned enough to know that it has it's bugs. I really don't think there is a DAW out there that is problem free. You are certainly free to spend money and go searching but I would visit the other forums first. I think you will hear many of the same complaints and folks abandoning ship because they feel cheated. I had a listen to a few of your tunes, very nice. You are certainly no noob you'll get through this. If you're looking for someone to blame for making your X1 all screwy......Bapu.. yea I'm betting he did it. If you're looking for an apology, OK I'm sorry your X1 is all screwy. All I can say is X1 is performing and less trouble free on my ancient box single core 3.2 P4  Than Sonar 7 or 8.5.  A few bugs here and there for me no deal breakers yet. I truly hope you get things sorted
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Re:Its a sad day but I can't take anymore 2011/04/30 19:59:40 (permalink)
mmmmm....methinks he doth protest much.....mmmmmm

I really do hope things get sorted out for you....

The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate.

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