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Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
I don't know if you all have noticed. But everywhere Jessie has been on this forum she has now left a "." At first I thought it was on the moved posts only but now it seems Jessie took the time to leave her opinion on moved posts to Cakewalk in a permanent manner as I am sure, that like many of us, she is of the opinion that our opinions and desires as a group are largely unheard. Most of her recent posts have been left in this manner. I hope that Jessie will venture back here and we shall see her again. Maybe, just maybe, (but probably not), the Cakewalk moderator team will have a clue. The recent thread moves is taking the fun out of participating here, it's making the users angry, and with anger usually comes a product switch. I'm not there yet but to let Cakewalk know I am a Sonar 7 PE user as are some of the other participants here.
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/08 11:21:44
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How very odd. I can't imagine why Jessie would take the trouble to modify so many posts, perhaps she'll illuminate us.
Moving a thread doesn't particularly strike me as a problem, Doc, the thread can be followed just as well in its new location. Losing an informative poster such as Jessie WOULD be a problem
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/08 11:34:27
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You might say it is an assumption from my point of view. One gleaned from several posts left by Jessie and especially one she left for Brandon Ryan regarding her feelings on moved posts and the deaf ear that Cakewalk was giving users in this particular room. I think the latest moved threads just provided a confirmation to her regarding Cakewalk's moderators and their lack of apparent attention or indifference to the users here.
I hope that she will come back and contribute as she had good observations and insightful opinions. But check out her profile page. I think it says it all. She had the last word.
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/08 13:27:54
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That seems to sum it up alright. What a shame. I learn a lot from her, and others like yourself.
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/08 13:43:16
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It's all very sad indeed - Jessie's given so much to this forum.
I personally think it's scandalous that a company treats it's customers with such contempt that it would lead to someone like Jessie upping roots and leaving this pleasant community we once had.
What makes it doubly infuriating is that these standards are not applied even-handedly [as I've gone through at length in other posts] - it seems that if you shell out for the flagship range every year the sun seems to shine out of your backside in the eyes of Roland - make no mistake this has little to do with what is, or was, Cakewalk.
Another personal opinion of why we get picked on is because of our chosen instrument - namely the guitar. Guitar folk have a common bond whether they play accoustic blues or death metal played at 115dB.
I think this affinity with the tool of the trade is what sets the users in here apart from a lot of the rest of the site - the recent threads showing pictures and descriptions of our guitars, amps and effects belong in here and nothing will change my mind on that.
I know there is a small interest in 'vintage' analogue synths et al, but nothing that can compare to the rich heritage of the guitar and all it's paraphernalia, so I say keep 'em here, and bring back the ones that have been moved.
In any case, I'm about to follow up all the moved threads to see just how much extra attention they've garnered since they got dropped in the 'appropriate' sub-forum.
Later guys, and come back Jessie.
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/08 14:58:59
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Hi folks.
I noticed the Jessie thing yesterday, and the comment left behind: 'Packed up and vacated, pussy and all.'
As someone alluded to, the Cakewalk forums have become a rather unpleasant experience for many, and have driven a good number of people away, or at best, lessened their willingness to engage in conversation.
I'd just like to chime in, hoping Cakewalk makes an effort to improve the situation. An outsider looking in would get a very inaccurate impression of the quality of people using these applications.
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/08 15:11:32
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Thanks for your comments Gary - that's appreciated. There are two main problems in here both related to a small throughput of traffic in my humble opinion. Firstly, we do tend to drift OT a lot because there just aren't the questions to answer but at least it means our regulars do pop in quite often if only 'just for a chat'. Secondly, moving threads away from here is, if anything, compounding the problem of low usage - in most cases, our threads are ending up in forums popultaed by considerable more folk than this one - incidentally, I just checked out the recently moved threads and not one of them has attracted a new post yet. It's almost like Roland doesn't want to keep the GT forum around for much longer - now I wonder why. As to your other well made observation, I will go as far as to say that I believe the quality of the advice that does get dispensed in this forum is second to none - a lot of guys go out of their way to plan out tutorials with screenshots to virtually any question. I've surfed all round the forums and it's also noticable that we don't seem to get the RTFM and sarcastic type answers that others seem and that's another reason guys are happy to post basic questions in here rather than in a more 'appropriate' forum - this very point has been made to Brandon by a number of members here but it's importance has obviously not been appreciated by him. Cheers Steve Edit - typo [should this go in the 'Spelling' forum  ]
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/08 15:14:09
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While I am distinctly a fan of Jessie's, perhaps there is something here I fail to grasp. What, exactly, is Cakewalk's crime? Moving a thread to another location? Censoring one individual and NOT censoring another? The first hardly seems a crime. So the thread is in a new location. So what? I can find it and respond to it in its new location. While the second may be arbitrary and not to my liking, no one ever told me this is a democracy. It's their forum, I'm just a visitor/contributor. If I'm missing something, elucidate and enlighten me Okay, okay, I read the thread addressed to Mr Ryan, I more clearly understand your perspective. I don't even have GT, I only came here because I saw a thread with Doc n Jessie n steve et al. I can certainly see your point of veiw, I just think it's overreacting a little
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/08 15:19:59
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You're not missing anything Mark, and I agree with what you've stated.
The 'problem' is why change something that's working just fine - none of the moved threads have attracted any new posts since they got moved in any case.
Like I said before, folk can ask anything in here without running the risk of getting the RTFM smart-ass replies, and not only that, a lot of the threads are linked in such a way that more information and knowledge gets shared about in the course of such discussions.
Cheers
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/08 15:28:00
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ORIGINAL: SteveStrummerUK
a lot of the threads are linked in such a way that more information and knowledge gets shared about in the course of such discussions.
Cheers
Steve
And that's what it's all about, isn't it?
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/08 15:45:06
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Mark,
I agree that it's not a democracy and that the board is owned and operated by Twelve Tone Systems, Inc. But customers are customers, and there is a lot that this particular room seems to offer that you won't find in the other portions of this community. You don't fix something that ain't broke. Some of the content that Jessie posted were for the regulars, I would think, and was not aimed at general consumption, again I am assuming.
If I were in her shoes I would feel that the individual involved in moving said threads was a bit insensitive. Jessie has a somewhat thick skin and I think it was just an accumulation of incidents that made her withdraw.
There are certain communities here that need a lot more policing than the GT room. We are a quiet tolerant bunch willing to help others who venture into the community. Unfortunately the same can not be said about other rooms, here. Someone at Cakewalk (Twelve Tone Systems, Inc.) needs to take a week just watching what goes on in here (lurking), in this particular room and they will quickly see what a great community this is and I think they will find it exemplifies what a Product BB should be.
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/08 15:47:22
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I'll miss Jessie's posts too, if she disappears for good. As a long-time guitarist with no great technical knowledge regarding pick-ups, locking trems etc, I found her to be very knowlegable and informative in those areas. I liked her sense of humour too.
I do tend to agree with Mark above though - I have noticed lately what might be construed as a rising paranoia in this forum. On one hand the Cakers are criticised for not taking an interest in this section of the forum, on the other, when they move threads to other sections (as they do 'up top' all the time), that's seen as inappropriate.
Steve - I get what you're saying about keeping the forum alive by having OT chats, but sometimes I wonder if all that might actually be keeping some people away. There have been times when I've personally given up scrolling through an endless succession of photobucket images trying to get to the gist of a thread. (I'm absolutely NOT talking about the very helpful screenshots provided by yourself, Doc, Bob and others, they are invaluable)
Just a thought, not trying to be a smart-arse at all, happy to be wrong, asbestos suit on, etc etc.
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/08 15:51:49
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James,
No need for the asbestos suit. No flaming is going to happen. But there seems to be two sides to this sword. Strummy was kind enough to have started an OT: GT Forum chat thread that we are trying to keep our off topic meandering to (pictures included). Jessie is a great resource. I'm sorry to see that she removed all of the recent posts that were so valuable to many.
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/08 15:52:39
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Actually, IMHO, it is about community as much as it is about information. I think it is also about letting members here converse as they want to, rather than feeling like we're being treated as children. Yes, this is THEIR playground, and they have the right to set the rules. No problem. But, moving posts around on us can feel a bit like we're being herded or parented. Especially when it is something like the gear photos which won't solve problems of users on other forums. I'll miss Jessie.
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/08 16:07:02
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Ah, Jessie, we hardly knew ye............. 
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/08 17:00:17
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Hey James - good to get your opinions mate, you know I value what you say.
I think you're right on the money about the trash posts - I should know, I did most of 'em!
Someone once said 'Don't feed the troll' and a lot us did - even you have to admit that you participated before you saw the error of your ways and edited away most of your contributions. This is where most of the rubbish has accumulated, I guess the rest of us need to follow your guidance and just 'let it go' as far as he's concerned.
As to the paranoia, I guess the reason is that those of us who have been around for a while have never seen a thread deleted, locked or moved in here up until quite recently, so I guess I can agree with FlySig that it feels like we're being treated like naughty school children and being admonished for daring to post something in the wrong forum.
I accept your point about how the OT stuff might be keeping others away but I'd like to hear some decent evidence to back that up James. In my experience in here, FlySig's comments about the friendliness and the enjoyment of our community spirit is the only feedback thatever seems to surface.
I often cite the example of a post that appeared in here a while ago now from a new member asking a specific question about monitoring levels in GT3. CJ [not you CJ!!] drifted across from SONAR and gave the guy a rather brutal tirade on the need for pro-standard monitors and treated rooms. I followed up and explained to the guy what he really wanted to know - literally about moving faders up and down. End result, the guy never came back - one post, that was it [I'll try and find it and add a link if anyones interested].
Now, tell me I'm wrong but I can almost guarantee that if you, me, Doc, Bob, Randy, JamZor, Tom, Jessie and possible everyone else who uses this forum regularly now had got to answer the guy's question first, he'd still be using the forum, or at least may have followed up his question.
To me, that's why this forum is so good, despite its shortcomings.
Cheers
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/08 17:12:34
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Mark and James,
My problem with the guitar related post being moved is, as has already been pointed out, we here in GT are mostly guitar players. Guess what guitar players like to talk about?!?! Now, since Cakewalk decided to produce a program designed for and marketed to guitar players, then guitar talk is definately 'on topic'.
My second gripe is that when a thread is moved, you cannot reply to the moved to topic thread, this means that the moved topic will quickly get pushed off the board in GT and since others don't seem to be interested in our guitar talk over in the gear forum, it disapears over there too.
I could say the same for our discussions on plugins and other software conversations because we tend to talk about guitar amp sims rather than the latest Moog emulator.
Now that I think about it, what the hell is 'on topic' in this forum! The only thing I'm allowed to discuss is how to bounce down a mix in GT!?! Harumph!!
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/08 17:16:26
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Just playing 'Devil's Advocat' Steve (love a Snowball  ), no harm or disrespect intended. I don't have any evidence to back up my musings, just a gut feeling. As you know, I like to drop in here and soak up some sun every now and again, even though I don't own any version of GT. It's nice to help out when I can. Yep, guilty as charged with goading the troll, but I don't do that any more. It just leads him onto other people's threads which ain't fair, so I just don't respond now. I wouldn't lose any sleep over the Sonar guys or any that happen to stumble in here, I just imagine them all wearing Pringle sweaters, sporting glowing noses and perched on a Golf Club bar stool.. Keep up the good work.
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/08 17:29:20
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As you know, I like to drop in here and soak up some sun every now and again, even though I don't own any version of GT. It's nice to help out when I can.
James, this is exactly my point in a way! Take both Bob and yourself as an example - even though neither of you run GT [I know Bob has the demo] you still come across here and hand out some absolutely 'top drawer' help and advice, but not neccesarily on 'purely' GT specific problems. I've learned loads of stuff not specifically geared toward GT from you but the questions that attracted those answers just had to be posted in the GT forum - I think what [our] CJ is saying in his post is what we all feel but it's a difficult thing to explain. Now stand to attention, raise your right hand and promise to keep coming in here! Steve
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/08 22:12:43
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Ive never used GT, but when I see some of my music pals talking about guitars, I can hardly resist. Like James, I'm not well versed in the various pickups, but I've learned enough here to want to tinker.Consequently, this forum is pertinent. No point, just rambling.......... 
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/08 22:40:49
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I do tend to agree with Mark above though - I have noticed lately what might be construed as a rising paranoia in this forum. On one hand the Cakers are criticised for not taking an interest in this section of the forum, on the other, when they move threads to other sections (as they do 'up top' all the time), that's seen as inappropriate.
My problem with this comment is the idea of "taking an Interest" in this forum is a matter of moving post around. My personnal idea of taking an interest is contribution to discussion including problem solving, tech support, and product information. Please point me to the last time any Cakewalk moderator replied to a product question in this forum.
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/09 02:23:30
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It's almost like Roland doesn't want to keep the GT forum around for much longer - now I wonder why.
I think you're on to something here. My thinking would be that with all the other DAW's out there that can do all this and can do all that, etc., etc., etc., I bet Roland doesn't see the need to even have GTP. I mean they have all the different versions of the Sonor line . . . Maybe, just maybe, not only will the GTP forum be gone - well you know where I'm going with this. But to the original post - Jessie, we all miss you!!!!
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/09 12:46:01
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Please note that Cakewalk has made it perfectly clear that they are steering the ship, not Roland. I see the statement in a lot of various posts around the Forum in general. ORIGINAL: cjlinus
Mark and James,
My problem with the guitar related post being moved is, as has already been pointed out, we here in GT are mostly guitar players. Guess what guitar players like to talk about?!?! Now, since Cakewalk decided to produce a program designed for and marketed to guitar players, then guitar talk is definately 'on topic'.
My second gripe is that when a thread is moved, you cannot reply to the moved to topic thread, this means that the moved topic will quickly get pushed off the board in GT and since others don't seem to be interested in our guitar talk over in the gear forum, it disapears over there too.
I could say the same for our discussions on plugins and other software conversations because we tend to talk about guitar amp sims rather than the latest Moog emulator.
Now that I think about it, what the hell is 'on topic' in this forum! The only thing I'm allowed to discuss is how to bounce down a mix in GT!?! Harumph!!
CJ, you're on the money here. We are all guitarists. So if it is guitar related gear it should stay here. not moved. as you pointed out the other posts have died on the vine. In any case, Jessie has packed up everything and vacated. Our loss, unfortunately.
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/09 20:08:20
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Please note that Cakewalk has made it perfectly clear that they are steering the ship, not Roland. I see the statement in a lot of various posts around the Forum in general.
Agreed Doc, but is it just a coincidence that threads have 'just' started moving and disappearing since the takeover? ORIGINAL: Doc_Hollingsworth
CJ, you're on the money here. We are all guitarists. So if it is guitar related gear it should stay here. not moved.
This is the thrust of our argument! For my money, a discussion/question regarding guitar-related VST's, for example, should be posted in here, not in the Software forum; posts concerning vintage Marshalls and classic Strats likewise belong in here, not in the Gear forum. I can't, for the life of me, understand why a SONAR-jockey who can't even play a musical instrument, but is capable enough with MIDI to make it sound like he can, would want to be exposed to this very guitar-orientated type of thread anyway. I accept this is an extreme example, and I also realise that many SONAR users do strum, but I think the point is still valid. Maybe calling the product Guitar Tracks is now an anachronism, but I venture that most of us originally bought it because of the word 'Guitar' in the name - the least Cakewalk should do is at least re-inforce this link with those of us who's main instrument is the guitar and not dilute the content of this forum into other forums where the guitar is definitely not the instrument of first choice [or any real instrument for that matter]. ORIGINAL: Doc_Hollingsworth
as you pointed out the other posts have died on the vine.
Why does the thread have to be moved? Why not just replicate the original post in the 'appropriate' sub-forum? ORIGINAL: Doc_Hollingsworth
In any case, Jessie has packed up everything and vacated. Our loss, unfortunately.
100% with you on that Doc - a big loss indeed. Steve
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/09 22:32:24
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Hey Jessie, Thanks for everything and come back and join the conversation again. If you haven't noticed yet, your missed. 
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/11 17:16:42
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CJ, you're on the money here. We are all guitarists. So if it is guitar related gear it should stay here. not moved.
This is the thrust of our argument!
For my money, a discussion/question regarding guitar-related VST's, for example, should be posted in here, not in the Software forum; posts concerning vintage Marshalls and classic Strats likewise belong in here, not in the Gear forum.
I can't, for the life of me, understand why a SONAR-jockey who can't even play a musical instrument, but is capable enough with MIDI to make it sound like he can, would want to be exposed to this very guitar-orientated type of thread anyway.
I accept this is an extreme example, and I also realise that many SONAR users do strum, but I think the point is still valid.
The couple of times I've posted questions specifically about recording guitar, I wasn't sure where to post them. Because the Guitar Tracks forum was specifically for that software, which I don't use and was only vaguely aware of, I posted in the Techniques forum, since it was more of a technique question. In retrospect that wasn't too brilliant since of course there'd be a greater concentration of guitarists here who'd have been unlikely to find it OT. I got good answers just the same... including from Jessie... who I'm also sorry to see go.... she was always informative and entertaining with a fantastic attitude and obvious love for the guitar..... I'm not sure I'm following where threads were moved to and/or from. But there does seem to be a lot more of it lately. ORIGINAL: SteveStrummerUK
ORIGINAL: Doc_Hollingsworth
Please note that Cakewalk has made it perfectly clear that they are steering the ship, not Roland. I see the statement in a lot of various posts around the Forum in general.
Agreed Doc, but is it just a coincidence that threads have 'just' started moving and disappearing since the takeover? I don't know if the increase in moved threads can be attributed to Roland. But my understanding is that Roland is now a majority stakeholder in CW (is that correct...?) and so even if CW is still in some sense "steering the ship" they're steering it under the Roland flag, literally, so there's just so much independence they can have. Honestly... reading this thread just now was the first time I even looked here in the Guitar Tracks forum. The reason I looked was because I was thinking about Cakewalk, and its product line, and had been looking at the CW site to see just what the differences and similarities are within the DAWs/Sequencers range, which includes GTP. So I thought I'd see what kind of action there was in here. I've obviously been missing some good stuff. So I'll be including this forum in my wanderings -- I hope that's OK... me being a Sonar user and all. I promise -- no Pringle sweaters unless they're well ripped and suitably stained! hahahaha Come to think of it I've actually had another gtr question or two brewing for a while so when they reach full fermentation I'll post em here. Someone recently said something in the Sonar forum that indicated GTP has varispeed. Is that right? Is there a GTP demo avail for download? I don't see one on the site. Guitar on!
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cjlinus
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/11 18:32:21
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HotCoollMusicGirl,
Thanks for checking in. Also thanks for the support. I'm hoping that Jessie checks back and reads this stuff. Maybe she'll decide to join in again. I'm relatively new to the GT conversation but it's a lot of fun messing about here. Anyway, as for my part, pop in anytime and bring your guitar.
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/11 18:34:26
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 GOOD BYE BLUE SKIES
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/12 20:01:03
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ORIGINAL: HotCoollMusicGirl
Honestly... reading this thread just now was the first time I even looked here in the Guitar Tracks forum. The reason I looked was because I was thinking about Cakewalk, and its product line, and had been looking at the CW site to see just what the differences and similarities are within the DAWs/Sequencers range, which includes GTP. So I thought I'd see what kind of action there was in here. I've obviously been missing some good stuff. So I'll be including this forum in my wanderings -- I hope that's OK... me being a Sonar user and all. I promise -- no Pringle sweaters unless they're well ripped and suitably stained! hahahaha
Come to think of it I've actually had another gtr question or two brewing for a while so when they reach full fermentation I'll post em here.
Someone recently said something in the Sonar forum that indicated GTP has varispeed. Is that right? Is there a GTP demo avail for download? I don't see one on the site.
Guitar on!
HotCoolMusicGirl, Welcome to this rather quaint pub at the end of the Universe. You are more than welcome as there are several of us here that are Sonar users like myself (though I started as a GTP3 user). I find it a bit more relaxing here as I don't have to keep my guard up for those who seem to think their opinion is gospel and we can openly speak about gear and recording without having to worry about anyone telling us we are daft for using a particular brand of this or that. I am not sure what you mean by varispeed... Do you mean the ability to change tempo in the song recorded? If so yes it shares that feature with Sonar as from my understanding GTP3 is actually based upon Sonar 4. Though I may be wrong. I would akin it to being similar in a digital sense to the varispeed recorders of the '60's and '70's. We hope to see more of you here and look forward to your contributions as well. I've read some of your posts in other partsd of the forum as well, and you have some keen insights. Till later, and again welcome.
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RE: Jessie Sammler Missing in Action
2008/07/13 17:57:50
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Hi Doc, and all. Thanks for the welcome.  By varispeed I mean being able to continuously adjust the speed on playback and record, and optionally have the pitch of any recorded audio directly follow the speed adjustments in realtime. So for ex you'd be able to drop both the speed and pitch by a semi or whole tone, record a guitar or vocal part, then play it back in key at normal tempo -- all without getting into stretching clips and audio snapping and digital tricks. Is that actually what GTP has? I've downloaded the demo that ceeph linked to (thanks!) but I haven't actually installed it, so I don't know. I'm trying to avoid distractions like that! But if it's got that kind of varispeed, that would very cool. But it would also make me wonder, since it's based on Sonar, why Sonar itself doesn't have it.....
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