I just ordered Kontakt 5 for $199, now on to Kirk Hunter
...thanks!

cecelius2


I finally got DIAMOND download, unziped and installed.  However, when I load solo violins I get a warning that some samples are missing.  I found this on the strat full and like solo violins. 

I checked and for the non violin instruments, I am having no problems.

Is anyone else finding some samples missing from solo violin instruments?

Here's what I discovered..... If I tried to load 00_violin_instruments within _TVEC_3.1_Instruments I would get an error regarding missing samples as well. I looked at my directory tree and noticed that folders Solo_Strings_1 and Solo_Strings_2 were created during the unzip process. The program is looking for the samples in folders __Solo_Strings_1 and __Solo_Strings_2.

I simply renamed the two Solo String folders and all is well. It's important to note that you must add TWO underlines (i.e. __) to the beginning of the file folder to rename.

unzipped as:     Solo_Strings_1 and Solo_Strings_2
rename to:       __Solo_Strings_1 and __Solo_Strings_2   

I didn't do anything unusual during the unzip process so I suspect that the files were incorrectly named before being zipped. The installation documentation is also in error as the Solo String folders in the directory tree are shown having one underline only.

Starise

 
 I can't open Kontakt until Christmas( well,I could but it would be sneaky) so I can't load or listen to anything until then. I have no idea what TVEC is so I have time to look into this and hopefully all will turn out well in about a month.

If you want to try out Diamond sooner you can use the free Kontakt player. It will time out after 30 minutes but it should at least get you familiar with the Kontakt interface and Diamond.

 Thanks for the heads up Glyn. I'm on that man! edrummist-yeah thats supposed to be the deal although I ordered it before that discussion came up. I guess I'll play nice till then.

  Thanks for that info, I'll probably wait then.

 That's putting more temptation in my way!

I bought before it reached 75% and I got my refund last night 

Amour013
         cecelius2 

I finally got DIAMOND download, unziped and installed.  However, when I load solo violins I get a warning that some samples are missing.  I found this on the strat full and like solo violins. 

I checked and for the non violin instruments, I am having no problems.

Is anyone else finding some samples missing from solo violin instruments? 

Here's what I discovered..... If I tried to load 00_violin_instruments within _TVEC_3.1_Instruments I would get an error regarding missing samples as well. I looked at my directory tree and noticed that folders Solo_Strings_1 and Solo_Strings_2 were created during the unzip process. The program is looking for the samples in folders __Solo_Strings_1 and __Solo_Strings_2.

I simply renamed the two Solo String folders and all is well. It's important to note that you must add TWO underlines (i.e. __) to the beginning of the file folder to rename.

unzipped as:     Solo_Strings_1 and Solo_Strings_2
rename to:       __Solo_Strings_1 and __Solo_Strings_2   

I didn't do anything unusual during the unzip process so I suspect that the files were incorrectly named before being zipped. The installation documentation is also in error as the Solo String folders in the directory tree are shown having one underline only.

I tried doing your fix, but no luck.  I email Kirk and he is looking into it.  I sent him screen shots of my loading problems.  BTW, it is happening also with Concert Strings II so it is probably something wrong in my Kontakt 4 settings.  I have found a temporary workaround--click "search file directory" and it finds the samples for that session; but once I close Kontakt it does not remember their locations, and I have to click "search file directory" on the next session.

edrummist

MarioD


I'd love to hear from people who own GPO, Miroslav and other libraries in the same price range as where Diamond now is weigh in on Diamond vs other libraries in the current price range.

- Peter



I just purchased Diamond and the first words out of my mouth when I started playing it were "Oh my God"! I own and now have put on the back burner GPO4, Miroslav CE, Kontakt’s Orchestral strings and Kontakt’s Sesion Strings. Diamond blows them all out of the water IMO.

A super thanks for this "GB/pricing experiment" as it put a pro sounding orchestra into this hobbyist’s hands.

Awesome, Mario. That's exactly what I hoped and believed would happen. So, it's great to read a post from someone really enjoying the library so much and your reaction is completely consistent with my own experience.

- Peter

I too own GPO, NI's Session Strings as well as the full Miroslav Philharmonik and acquired both Concert Brass2 and Diamond last week. OMG Kirk's stuff is the real deal!!  Haven't even barely scratched the surface but what a phenomenal gift... the sounds are magical, yet clean and uncluttered by processing, with lots of immediate expressiveness available via the TVEC system/keyswitching.  


the prices for these wonderfully crafted orchestral tools make truly professional sounds available to all desiring to create... 


Things this good don't happen very often,  Thank you, Kirk... thank you, Peter...


BTW...already got word my refund to the 75% level is being processed by paypal... Now that's nice service!

peace,


Dana

cecelius2

Vastman

I too own GPO, NI's Session Strings as well as the full Miroslav Philharmonik and acquired both Concert Brass2 and Diamond last week. OMG Kirk's stuff is the real deal!!  Haven't even barely scratched the surface but what a phenomenal gift... the sounds are magical, yet clean and uncluttered by processing, with lots of immediate expressiveness available via the TVEC system/keyswitching.  

the prices for these wonderfully crafted orchestral tools make truly professional sounds available to all desiring to create... 

Things this good don't happen very often,  Thank you, Kirk... thank you, Peter...

peace,


Dana

Must agree with you again my friend!  Kirk Hunter's Diamond and Concert Strings 2 bring tears to my eyes.  Oh the tone! Oh the beauty! Oh the elegance of the sounds!  And yes, they are so easy to play.  I too have GPO and the full Miroslav which are fine for background strings, but KH is so authentic.  What I can't get away from is that romantic solo violin in Diamond; it is just too good, way too good.  It is a little strange that the romantic violin is not in Concert Strings 2, but having both is having two pies, two cakes and eating them too.  (Oh where is yoropal when you need a wordsmith to express the beauty and poetry of strings here).  


Kirk Hunter gave us a great gift this season.  Thank you Kirk and Peter too.

  Cecelius2

I just finished downloading Diamond (took about 5 days!!) and still haven't installed it (will do so tonight).
It's very nice to read comments like this as it's comforting to know I have some qood quality sounds under the hood and practically got it for pittance.....now only if my fingers could move freely on the keyboard as it does on the guitar.... 

Here's a review from KVR member mchannemann I thought was worth sharing. mchannemann is a professional games music composer who owns several different developers orchestral sample libraries: 

My view on the Libraries and use: 
I own Diamond with TVEC 3.1 update, CBII and CSII and here is my feedback for how I use them and what I think of them:  CBII and CSII are a great update on Diamonds existing Strings and Brass,  and both have their own advantages.  I personally like the solo parts of the diamond Violin(Romantic Gipsy) more than its CSII counterpart but it depends on the use and target.  The newer strings have a different vibe to them which is a bit less warm than the Diamond recordings.  I for one use often both in combination to get the sound I want, with different sharing levels for 1st and 2nd violins and the rest of the orchestra.  The TVEC 3 technology is a big step for the playability and usability of the libraries, you can set the attack type, speed, decays and even up and down bow follows for short attacks, very nice for quick runs with double or triple notes.  Vibrato control is one of the great features of the library very flexible and to the point you need for your track.  The Brass section has great control too, glides, stabs , double and triple tongue all very easy to use.  Aside from all that what I love the most is that this library is dry, often libraries are recording wet with a fixed room, and if you compose only with the orchestra nice, but if you work with several instrument groups and different libraries this is bad as different rooms collide and sound unnatural due to that.  All in all I love the investment of time and money I put into KH libraries, for any one who is looking for a orchestra library I'd say you should take a very close look on these libraries.  Have a go and listen to the demos and try the demo instruments mentioned inside this thread, and if you try them I'm sure you come to the same result and enjoy them as I do.

cecelius2

Vastman

I too own GPO, NI's Session Strings as well as the full Miroslav Philharmonik and acquired both Concert Brass2 and Diamond last week. OMG Kirk's stuff is the real deal!!  Haven't even barely scratched the surface but what a phenomenal gift... the sounds are magical, yet clean and uncluttered by processing, with lots of immediate expressiveness available via the TVEC system/keyswitching.  

the prices for these wonderfully crafted orchestral tools make truly professional sounds available to all desiring to create... 

Things this good don't happen very often,  Thank you, Kirk... thank you, Peter...

peace,
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Dana

Must agree with you again my friend!  Kirk Hunter's Diamond and Concert Strings 2 bring tears to my eyes.  Oh the tone! Oh the beauty! Oh the elegance of the sounds!  And yes, they are so easy to play.  I too have GPO and the full Miroslav which are fine for background strings, but KH is so authentic.  What I can't get away from is that romantic solo violin in Diamond; it is just too good, way too good.  It is a little strange that the romantic violin is not in Concert Strings 2, but having both is having two pies, two cakes and eating them too.  (Oh where is yoropal when you need a wordsmith to express the beauty and poetry of strings here).  


Kirk Hunter gave us a great gift this season.  Thank you Kirk and Peter too.

  Cecelius2

I think you expressed it just about perfect there, ol pal.
 

edrummist


Thanks to Cecelius2, Vastman and yorolpal on behalf of Kirk and me.  This Group Buy has been a huge success because of your participation (what would a group buy be without a group! Haha!), helpfulness to others and telling others about the GB. You've proven my theory that a lot of people would buy pro quality orchestral sample libraries if they were much more affordable. 

What does the success of the GB mean for the future of Kirk Hunter Studios? Well, I'm certain it means great things for sample users. Kirk and I are going to have meetings regarding potential new libraries following the GB and we'll discuss various models for determining new libraries (I'm proposing using concepts like crowdsourcing -- basically asking customers for their ideas and what they want before making future libraries), the feedback received during the Group Buy and pricing of current and future libraries. 

I've been asking people for their input on what libraries they want Kirk Hunter Studios to do next -- granted, with more than 500 people form this Group Buy, you're a powerful force and if even 300 people are interested in buying a certain type of sample library, KHS is going to give it serious consideration. Further, if we can get a lot of people to buy a library, like we've done with this Group Buy, we can keep these libraries -- and it's important to understand that orchestral sample libraries are the most costly of all types of sample libraries to produce (individual drum, piano, synth, organ, guitar, bass and percussion libraries are all comparatively cheap and simple to produce). So far, the most popularly requested sample library people want to see is a Woodwinds library sampled at a similar level to Concert Brass II and Concert Strings II. Consequently, I invite everyone to use this thread to post future Kirk Hunter Studios sample libraries they'd like to see. 



- Peter

Saxophones. I would think this would be very difficult to do well because of the types of articulations and the transitions between them required. Quite a challenge.

How exactly do I add the Diamond library to Kontalt 5? I've unzipped everything correctly but Kontakt doesn't see it. Thanks

FYI--Concert Brass is not 45Gb, more like 15+/-GB.  Having said that, this was a pleasant surprise as I was preparing for another week or two of downloading.  I went on and bought the Concert Brass 2 because I was so impressed with the sound quality of the samples in Diamond and Concert Strings 2.  CB2 is no disappointment, just a surprise to have downloaded it in a two days:


The original post on page 1 of this thread has this, but it is not 45 gigs:


Concert Brass II   ($349 USD INTRODUCTORY SALE PRICE, Approx 45 GB)