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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/10/14 18:45:01 (permalink)
NI tend to claim that discontinued stuff has been included under a different name in a slightly different way.
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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/10/15 04:23:31 (permalink)
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You don't want to buy GuitarRig 4 Pro do you? 
 
 
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K9 will keep you going for a long time, I don't think you'll miss anything that doesn't come in that package. Prepare for a long session of disk swapping. Really, get a bottle of wine and order take away, you'll be there for a while. And most of the instruments can be programmed and explored for months.

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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/10/15 06:29:11 (permalink)
It's worth noting that NI offers the same upgrade price for two versions back, but not three. So an upgrade to 10 costs the same from 8 and 9, while 7 is more expensive.
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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/10/15 06:41:55 (permalink)
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 And most of the instruments can be programmed and explored for months.



Or in the case of Reaktor, a lifetime

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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/10/15 07:55:49 (permalink)
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You don't want to buy GuitarRig 4 Pro do you? 
 
 
The deal is all done.  All I have to do now is wait by the mail box for fedex.  Let's hope Tom Hanks isn't bringing it or I could be in for a long wait...




K9 will keep you going for a long time, I don't think you'll miss anything that doesn't come in that package. Prepare for a long session of disk swapping. Really, get a bottle of wine and order take away, you'll be there for a while. And most of the instruments can be programmed and explored for months.


Ultimate comes on a HDD, so no disk swapping.   But I'll get a bottle of wine anyway

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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/10/15 08:30:45 (permalink)
I am still on the fence....I have K 9 and do not see a lot for 199.  More synths...not that interested.
 
I probably will wait and see if it goes on sale myself.  
 
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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/10/15 11:23:42 (permalink)
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enclosed 2.5" usb3 hdd in a nice brown Native Instruments marked case, with a unique connector and matching usb cable- should not cause any issues unless your usb power supply is insufficient to power the enclosure, then I gather you have to mess about a bit. It took about 3 or 4 hours to install everything with my usb2 interface. Ive read some posts elsewhere with corrupt files that where rectified with files downloaded from NI- unfortunately there are a number of posts concerning unnecessary delays with customer service- so that is one thing you might want to be aware of. 




Having the hard drive still takes 3-4 hours? Is this because it's usb 2.0 ? It sounds as if you imported from the outboard hdd to an internal one. I was under the impression you could stream from it. I would probably do the same thing unless that included hdd can stream a lot of tracks at once. 

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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/10/15 11:32:00 (permalink)
I would not mind getting my hands on the new pianos but I can wait, either for a decent discount or Komplete 11.

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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/10/15 11:46:44 (permalink)
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Having the hard drive still takes 3-4 hours? Is this because it's usb 2.0 ? It sounds as if you imported from the outboard hdd to an internal one. I was under the impression you could stream from it. I would probably do the same thing unless that included hdd can stream a lot of tracks at once. 




yup 3 to 4 hours,  not exactly certain- I expected it wouldve been much quicker going from k9U so I didnt check the time, but I surfed a bit on my other pc and then watched a full movie and still had a while to go before the install was ...errr, complete, you might say. we are looking at a pretty large data transfer- I dont think there is an option to run the software off the supplied hdd enclosure-  just pick your install path and go. I really dont see why the install time would be an issue unless one has only days left to live I suppose (a way to pass the time ? something to look forward to ?). Not to mention, why does no one seem to remember the prolonged install times in the good old floppy days ? 
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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/10/15 13:38:29 (permalink)
Yes no streaming from the harddrive. Only installers on there. If they make a K11U on an SSD with all samples ready to stream I'd jump on it in a heartbeat.
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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/10/15 14:48:05 (permalink)
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Yes no streaming from the harddrive. Only installers on there. If they make a K11U on an SSD with all samples ready to stream I'd jump on it in a heartbeat.


why ? hdds fail. hot swapping external hdds fail even easier; not to mention the mere act of picking up and carrying a hdd unnecessarily introduces the element of dropping it. I know I have- once- with a considerable loss of irreplacable data. flash is more robust but does have its own issues.
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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/10/15 14:54:28 (permalink)
I said, SSD, not HDD. I believe it's quite robust nowadays, not to mention it'd only be reading 99 percent of the time. It would save hours worth of installing, space in the computer, and is a lot easier to swap between computers. I currently have my Komplete collection on an external SSD, it's been very reliable and I can use the high speed with both my laptop and desktop with just the one disk. The currently included disk is basically just a backup, you only use it for installing. While it's not a bad idea to have a backup, I would prefer to choose whether or not I make one, instead of just having a dead weight in my closet that might have been very useful.
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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/10/15 16:11:00 (permalink)
I installed K10U from the included hard drive.  took 2 hours and that was including downloading and installing all the service center updates.
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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/10/15 21:14:10 (permalink)
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Having the hard drive still takes 3-4 hours? Is this because it's usb 2.0 ? It sounds as if you imported from the outboard hdd to an internal one. I was under the impression you could stream from it. I would probably do the same thing unless that included hdd can stream a lot of tracks at once. 




yup 3 to 4 hours,  not exactly certain- I expected it wouldve been much quicker going from k9U so I didnt check the time, but I surfed a bit on my other pc and then watched a full movie and still had a while to go before the install was ...errr, complete, you might say. we are looking at a pretty large data transfer- I dont think there is an option to run the software off the supplied hdd enclosure-  just pick your install path and go. I really dont see why the install time would be an issue unless one has only days left to live I suppose (a way to pass the time ? something to look forward to ?). Not to mention, why does no one seem to remember the prolonged install times in the good old floppy days ? 


I hear you on the wait time . It is probably the largest program many will install at 400gb for Ultimate. I'm just impatient :).... Having another activity to do while waiting would certainly help. I think usb2.0/3.0 makes a big difference in time.

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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/10/16 03:33:24 (permalink)
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I installed K10U from the included hard drive.  took 2 hours and that was including downloading and installing all the service center updates.

Perhaps there were not as many updates because this is a new product. When I got K9U the updates took longer than the original install. 2 hours seems fairly quick even just for the disk based part.
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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/10/16 11:38:31 (permalink)
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I installed K10U from the included hard drive.  took 2 hours and that was including downloading and installing all the service center updates.

Perhaps there were not as many updates because this is a new product. When I got K9U the updates took longer than the original install. 2 hours seems fairly quick even just for the disk based part.



Well I had all of K9U installed. 
 
I don't really know why it was so fast, at 2 hours.  When I installed K9U it took 4 + hours but that was on my old machine.
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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/10/21 16:57:53 (permalink)
I went all the way and bought Ultimate and Kontrol S61. The more I use it the more I love it, and I'm not paid NI, but now it is fun again to sit in front of the keyboard. Yeah. It is too much to gasp at once, with all the synth and sounds. All the possibility with the keyboard. But it started something inside me. Now I can find the sounds I want.
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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/10/24 10:13:09 (permalink)
Hope you have a lotta fun with it Jarsve! It must be good if a metal guitarist is into the keyboard now :)

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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/10/24 19:35:54 (permalink)
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It's rare that you actually need what's in the latest version.



I'm sorry, you've lost me there...    What does need have to do with anything?


That's exactly what I say to the goobers at Guitar Center. The ease of using the USB drive in Ultimate is way under rated. Check what you want to instal and go to bed. It is a wonderful thing. They should have that as an option for Komplete.
 
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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/11/07 13:47:10 (permalink)
OK darnit....I just pulled the trigger on Ultimate...no point in only going partway up Everest :) It is a great deal for everything you get. I shouldn't have looked at the NI website that last time :) Tums should help a little with the GAS.

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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/11/07 14:27:33 (permalink)
Congrats Starise!!
 
Has the NI winter sale already started or was this just the normal upgrade route?

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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/11/09 12:26:24 (permalink)
I hope all of you new Komplete owners are going to take advantage of the Reaktor user library. As if there weren't enough in the ton of instruments and effects already included with Reaktor, there are also thousands of user-made ones available for free download. After almost 2 years I never stop being amazed. There's a lot of throwaway crap you'll never use, but the quality of some of them is astounding and it's amazing that so many talented people are making this stuff for free. Having the full version of Reaktor just opens so many doors even if you never learn how to make your own synths with it (which is years of study in itself). 
 
Recently I downloaded all of this guy's stuff for free, and it was so good I made a donation through his page. I'm using loads of these synths and effects in projects already, they're so good. http://boscomac.free.fr/?p=rack
 
 

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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/11/09 21:12:28 (permalink)
Would anyone dare to suggest that Black Friday brings K10 to K10U upgrades at half price?
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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/11/09 21:28:17 (permalink)
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Having the full version of Reaktor just opens so many doors even if you never learn how to make your own synths with it (which is years of study in itself). 
 
Recently I downloaded all of this guy's stuff for free, and it was so good I made a donation through his page. I'm using loads of these synths and effects in projects already, they're so good. http://boscomac.free.fr/?p=rack



Thanks for this great Reaktor link. Great stuff indeed.
Anyone cares to share similar amazing links for Reaktor synths?
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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/11/09 22:36:14 (permalink)
Ya sharkey, good on ya. I didn't know I could get stuff like that from Reaktor.

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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/11/10 02:09:43 (permalink)
We have Brando to thank for posting that link last week. 

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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/11/10 02:59:53 (permalink)
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Ya sharkey, good on ya. I didn't know I could get stuff like that from Reaktor.


Are you aware of the Reaktor User Library There is an a lot of stuff so it takes a bit of work sorting the wheat from the chaff but you can find some gems.
 

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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/11/10 10:01:02 (permalink)
Cheers, Glyn. Just starting out with Komplete 10, so grateful for any guidance you guys may offer.
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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/11/10 14:34:12 (permalink)
I got one of my all time favorite synths, Eccentrix, from the Reaktor User Library. There's also some fantastic effects and drum machines (or "grooveboxes."

It's worth either reading the manual or watching Groove3's excellent course on Reaktor basics to understand how the snapshot system works. Snapshots are Reaktor's idea of presets and they have a tendency to confuse the heck out of new users, especially with regard to making and saving your own. It's not as intuitive as it should be tbh.

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Re: Komplete 10 First Impressions 2014/11/10 14:36:23 (permalink)
Cheers, Sharkey  Looking out for Eccentrix.
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