VigilantSound
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Kontakt And X1 -Solved!!!-
So is anyone else having problems with Kontakt in X1?? My issue is that all of kontakts controls freeze when opened in X1, and also it has to search for the sample folder every time I load a kit from SSD or any other library? Now I have found that when it is in the Multi Dock the controls work fine but it will glitch and pop the audio when in the multi dock. And its not just Kontakt it also did it with the Vintage channel, the controls didnt work when floating which I thought was really weird.., But not Waves plugs?? So anyone else know of this, is this a bug? Maybe someone could try to reproduce it for me I also was using the step sequencer in this setup for triggering the drums maybe that's a factor? This is in XP3 Im gonna try it on my Win7 machine next... Kontact version 4.0.52 Update: X Ray windows is what was causing Kontack to freeze up.. I unchecked it and all was good...
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 00:39:32
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Kontakt 4 is up to version 4.2.2 now. You might want to update.
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 00:46:35
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Yeah, I know but it works fine in 8.5, PT9 and stand alone. And I don't have the net on my DAW so its a pain, But I will ultimately do that..
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 00:46:51
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Sorry Repost 
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 10:37:09
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yes, I had this problem as well. actually, X1 would crash / freeze completely without a minidump. tech support said that cake had an issue with kontakt pre-4.2.2 regarding stability.
my winxp system with X1 and kontakt would crash this way - win7 did not, but the NI Service center did not have updates available for winxp past 4.1.3, win7 updated kontakt to 4.2.2. I suspect that was the problem - I've had no crashes on win7 with kontakt 4.2.2 on X1
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 10:58:53
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Beagle
yes, I had this problem as well. actually, X1 would crash / freeze completely without a minidump. tech support said that cake had an issue with kontakt pre-4.2.2 regarding stability.
my winxp system with X1 and kontakt would crash this way - win7 did not, but the NI Service center did not have updates available for winxp past 4.1.3, win7 updated kontakt to 4.2.2. I suspect that was the problem - I've had no crashes on win7 with kontakt 4.2.2 on X1
Beagle, I'm running 4.2.2 on XP 32bit (in 8.5.3) without issues ... so I guess they came out with a 32bit version at some point.
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 11:03:16
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I'm not sure why but NI Service Center would not say that I needed the 4.2.2 update and left me at 4.1.3 as the latest. and of course the NI Service Center was updated to the latest also.
I just checked it again about a week ago at the request of cake support and NI Service Center still said 4.1.3 was the latest for my system.
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 11:11:44
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Beagle
I'm not sure why but NI Service Center would not say that I needed the 4.2.2 update and left me at 4.1.3 as the latest. and of course the NI Service Center was updated to the latest also.
I just checked it again about a week ago at the request of cake support and NI Service Center still said 4.1.3 was the latest for my system.
Strange indeed, Beags. Here's info from the NI support forum: Hello everybody, The 4.2.2 update for Kontakt and Kontakt Player is now available for download via the usual channels. Below is the list of changes (some of which only apply to the full version of Kontakt). Regards, Thomas --- New and improved features: - New binary file format for increased saving/loading performance
- New zero-latency convolution engine with optimized performance
- Revised master output section with presets and advanced macro functions
- Additional import formats
(Akai MPC 5000, Alesis Fusion, Drumagog, Korg Triton, Roland Fantom, Yamaha Motif) - Numerical parameter value input via keyboard
- VST plugin operation under Mac OS X 64bit
- Rex import under Mac OS X 64bit
- Startup and shutdown time in plugin mode improved
Fixes: - Performance issues with mono samples in HQI interpolation mode fixed
So - I'm definitely running 4.2.2 on my XP 32bit system. You can always do a direct download from the Update area on the NI site if you don't get it via the Service Center.
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 11:17:37
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Hey, Billy,
if I were still using my winxp / X1 system I would definitely update it manually, but I only keep that hard drive on my system for emergency backup if something goes wrong in win7. I think i've got everything reinstalled on my win7 drive now, and X1 has been stable there.
thanks.
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 12:12:43
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422?? that wasn't even a twinkle in NI's eye when x1 was released...
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 12:16:49
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pwal
422?? that wasn't even a twinkle in NI's eye when x1 was released...
I don't understand your point?
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 12:17:57
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Beagle
Hey, Billy,
if I were still using my winxp / X1 system I would definitely update it manually, but I only keep that hard drive on my system for emergency backup if something goes wrong in win7. I think i've got everything reinstalled on my win7 drive now, and X1 has been stable there.
thanks.
Well, then you're good to go Beags :)
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 12:21:02
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I am running Kontakt 4.2.2 with no problems whatsoever (touch wood)(Kontakt related) in X1a
x64 Kontakt on x64 X1a on W7Prox64
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 13:15:38
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Beagle
pwal
422?? that wasn't even a twinkle in NI's eye when x1 was released...
I don't understand your point?
"tech support said that cake had an issue with kontakt pre-4.2.2 regarding stability. "
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 13:28:58
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also, you may want to try changing the multi-core settings in kontakt? some hosts do it better if it's left to them
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 13:30:50
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pwal
also, you may want to try changing the multi-core settings in kontakt? some hosts do it better if it's left to them
From what I understand, the 4.2.2 multi-core setting should be used if you have multi-cores. I might be wrong ;)
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 13:35:18
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pwal
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pwal
422?? that wasn't even a twinkle in NI's eye when x1 was released...
I don't understand your point?
"tech support said that cake had an issue with kontakt pre-4.2.2 regarding stability. "
Ok, but think that through. cake is not going to hold up X1 release just because they have submitted a problem report with NI and NI hasn't "twinkled their eye" yet.
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 13:37:32
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Beagle
pwal
Beagle
pwal
422?? that wasn't even a twinkle in NI's eye when x1 was released...
I don't understand your point?
"tech support said that cake had an issue with kontakt pre-4.2.2 regarding stability. "
Ok, but think that through. cake is not going to hold up X1 release just because they have submitted a problem report with NI and NI hasn't "twinkled their eye" yet.
Hehe, it appears Cake won't hold up a release for almost any reason ;) Ok ok - that's a bit sarcastic :O So I'll do a Bill Maher joke: "You know I kid Cake" ;)
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 13:42:49
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 13:52:01
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my point was that 422 didn't exist when x1 was released, so how do they pinpoint that version, but furry muff, let's just say then that i have an issue with x1 stability 
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 13:54:42
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pwal
my point was that 422 didn't exist when x1 was released, so how do they pinpoint that version, but furry muff, let's just say then that i have an issue with x1 stability
uh - that's not what I said. I said cake had a problem with PRE-4.2.2 kontakt. in other words they had a problem with kontakt with some versions before 4.2.2 came out. 4.2.2 was supposed to have fixed some stability issues that cake reported, according to cake tech support.
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 14:03:47
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sure, pre-422, sorry i was jumbled; any idea what the fix was, not mentioned in the "fixes"? i don't have any k4 trubs with other hosts
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 14:12:38
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no, I don't know - like you said it wasn't listed in the fixes from NI, but cake tech support seemed to think that it addressed the stability problems they had reported.
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 14:13:21
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let's hope it's a winner
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 18:34:47
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Running K4 4.2.2 (and earlier versions) under X1 and X1a on WIN 7 all 64x. Someone mentioned about turning multi-core support off in Kontakt while running in a host. I think that is correct... the mutli-core setting used to be for stand alone.... don't know if that is still the case now though but I would try it if you haven't already.
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 18:59:05
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Updating NI Kontakt has been a huge pain, The download was hard to find, then I couldn't log in, And the PC I wanna update has no net
connection (cause its a dedicated DAW)... Its easier just to reinstall everything...which still takes for ever ever considering all the third party stuff
has to be reauthorized as well, I been at it all last night and today...
Its a free player I mean why does it have to be so protected....
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 19:22:21
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Ok, So do you guys think the Vintage Channel was behaving poorly because of Kontakt then?
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 19:46:35
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Ok, SO I finally got 4.22, lets hope it workes, turns out you dont have to uninstall previous versions first
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 19:57:06
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Ok, So the problem persist  However, the vintage channel is now working correctly and Kontack when left i the multi dock works fine, But when its floating it still freezes... I guess I will just be keeping it there and hope X1b will fix this as well.. Unless we got any other ideas?
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Re:Kontakt And X1
2011/03/11 21:14:56
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Problem Solved!!
The culprit.... X Ray windows.....yep... I never used it before and don't remember enabling it, but when I checked on a hunch it was...
So I unchecked it and all is well... Thanks for all your input...
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