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RE: Liquid Mix hanging problem solved
2007/12/10 15:03:45
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Hi! I ve been working with Liquid Mix for quite a long time now and I haven t been able to change the names of the factory emulations. You seem to have the solution to my problem. Thanks.
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RE: Liquid Mix hanging problem solved
2007/12/10 15:40:06
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RE: Liquid Mix hanging problem solved
2008/01/17 21:56:35
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Well they have just realised the VSt3 SDk today, woohoo, so hopefully give focusrite what say five minutes and a pack of chocolate hobknobs they should have it all sorted out :)
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RE: Liquid Mix hanging problem solved
2008/01/18 09:45:27
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hello Gordon old chap been a while,,, I am assuming everything is hunky-dory with you and Liquid Mix?? My problems seem to be resolved here also, I am running the latest Beta driver ,,,
I am still searching for that file that renames the plugs for thier respective emulations.. did you every obtain it ??
On an off note , I lived in Germany about 14 years ago and had the pleasure of visiting London for a day(it was not a long enough stay) IF I am so lucky as to visit again(by winning the Lottery here, ha-ha) , I will look you up and we will quaff a pint together, if you are so inclined...
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RE: Liquid Mix hanging problem solved
2008/01/18 11:00:50
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Hi Yeah still on release version which has been rock solid,will try to do some beta testign when I have less critical projects on the go (when is that eh) I have not got hold of that file and I am suspecting it does not exist. I will try to put one together when I am less busy. Yeah if your ever over in the Uk let me know in advance and we'll arrange something, I am based about midway between heathrow and central London so should be pretty easy. Just moved house so now have a room dedicated to just het studio happy happy days. You wanna hear an amusing irony, I was really worried when I packed up the studio that I would have issues when I put it back together, things would have stopped working etc. The irony was I put it all back together, fired it up, and everythign worked first time. Then I tried installing my new broadband wireless router, and it took 2 days to trouble shoot it. Its about a tenth of the complexity of my studio :) G
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RE: Liquid Mix hanging problem solved
2008/01/22 12:49:17
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Hey fellow Liquid mix disciples, I e-mailed Lars at focusrite couple of days ago re the whole VST3 sidechaining thing. What a guy he just got back to me even though he is on holiday, and THEN apologized for the delay. I tell you anyone has a go at focusrite attitude to customer service will have to answer to me. See Below for my e-mail and Lars response, looking like positive news and that SideChain key input for the LM may well be decoupled frmo VST3 which is great news for us (and Reaper users) Cheers G Hi Gordon
I am very sorry for the delayed reply. I have been on holiday and will return to work on Wednesday of this week. Your questions and suggestions are good ones. We are still assessing our options for implementing the key input side chain and it certainly looks like a
VST3 implementation is a big project with inevitable delays. As you've said, it may be possible to implement a key input sidechain with VST 2.4. This is something we aim to look into it further as soon as possible.
Thanks for your succinct and thoughtful feedback.
Regards,
Lars
On 18 Jan 2008, at 05:26, Gordon Russell wrote:
Hey Lars
Hope you had a good Christmas and New year.
Like the look of the new 4pre you guys have brought out, will be watching that with interest.
Quick question I was over at KVR and saw that the SDK for VST3 has been released and is causing a little bit of a stir as it seems to be a bit of a paradigm shift.
The reality seems to me that for Sonar (and other non-cubase PC users) that 1) it may take you guys a while to implement VST3 if at all and 2) Even if you do we will have to wait for our hosts to do so, and that is not a given.
So I guess what I was wandering is really how hard is it to implement side chaining within 2.4 is it a failing of the VST 2.4 internal architecture or because you can't get the key signal in? I mean in Sonar you can now route key signals, does VST2.4 accept multiple inputs? I would have thought it did and you could just make these available to Sonar's bus architecture, and then the additional input could drive the side chain in the plug?
I think it would be worth it, especially in light of the recent developments and the strategic partnership between Sonar and Roland and the new REAC system. From the looks of things Sonar and Roland have designs on offering some real alternatives to DigiDesign down the line, which I think is going to really open up the market, especially given the growth of live sound and peoples appetite for it at the moment.
Maybe I have oversimplified, but at this point it looks like we are at least a year or more away from seeing true side chaining in the LM within Sonar if we wait for it to be VST3.
That does not even take into account the fact that some people are questioning the validity and design decisions that have been made with VST3, and possibly with good reason.
Regards a slightly depressed
Gordon
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RE: Liquid Mix hanging problem solved ANother Driver update
2008/07/15 03:39:04
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for the love of God, Sonar and Music - can someone please help me... I've followed this whole thread, downloaded the hotpatches and it still it hangs on open. Sonar 6.2.1 and Liquid Mix 2.2.1... help - all info here: http://www.parasiteproductions.com/lm_sonar_crashes/ I've got an $800 doorstop. And I just LOVE this thing when it works. I work better, faster and more accurately than with any other plugs - it's just kilin' me... So pretty please - someone? thanks. -tbf
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RE: Liquid Mix hanging problem solved ANother Driver update
2008/07/15 08:07:17
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Hi Bunny Fluffer
I would suggest rolling back to Liquied Mix version 2.0R the release version. Thats the version I am using and is very stable in all flavours of Sonar 6 and 7 in my expereince.
The later version of the LM software are aimed at bug fixes for DigiDesign (protools) related issues, and there is the potentiall that a bug fix for Protools may have created a new bug for Sonar, software being tricksy stufff.
Be carefull with your uninstall and re-install sometimes the uninstall is not clean and leaves traces of itself, then teh new install will not write over them, esecially when you are rolling back.
THe other thing is are you sure you changed your sid speed in teh registry, its not enough to just download the patchs you have to then do a manual registry hack. ALso if you have multiple firewire drivers you may have hacked the wrong registry entry. Good example is that my laptop has motherboard firewire, but I use a PCMCIA bus firewire card becuase I find it more reliable. I accidently applied the sid speed hack to the Motherboard firewire which I don't use.
Good luck, let me know your progress and I will try and help you.
Regards
Gordon
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RE: Liquid Mix hanging problem solved ANother Driver update
2008/07/15 09:09:02
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Hey Gordon and all.. I saw this thread re-surface and it reminded me about the discussion concerning emulation names A guy over @ GearSlutz, saint peeder, posted a file with the presets actually named based on thier respective emulations.... I downloaded it and added them to my existing folder they seem to live in harmony well, but read the thread also My LM has been rocking along very well lately, I am still on the last Beta, and so far knock on Formica, it hasne't crashed or locked up SP7.. Later Mate
post edited by musicman100 - 2008/07/15 09:31:26
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RE: Liquid Mix hanging problem solved ANother Driver update
2008/07/15 11:18:27
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Cheers Musicman, I am going to go check that out. Its still frustrates me, at one point I knew a lot of hte emulations of by heart, but then got involved in something else for a while and forgot em all.
Yeah the LM is still going strong for me, love the thing, and as you can see from my Sig that EP I was working on most of last year is now up on Itunes, and the LM is on every single tune :)
I will check out the KVR thread, cheers for the headsup.
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RE: Liquid Mix hanging problem solved ANother Driver update
2008/07/15 11:36:54
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RE: Liquid Mix hanging problem solved ANother Driver update
2008/07/15 17:54:45
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Hey Gordon,
Thanks for the ongoing help - I really appreciate it. I'll try rolling back. I came over to the PC from Mac to use Sonar, so I'm not well verse in Windows quirks - registry's, .dll, uninstalls, etc.
I'll see if I still have, or can get the 2.0R release version. You don't happen to be using a UAD-1 card as well - I'm starting to think it's conflict between the UAD-1 and the LM...
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RE: Liquid Mix hanging problem solved ANother Driver update
2008/07/16 06:57:10
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COuld be an IRQ conflict between the cards if your using a PCI Firewire card.
If so try either reseating one of the cards physically, or reassigning the IRQ's both is the ACPI level and at the BIOS.
There should be a copy of all release versions on the focusrite site under downloads. Also if you look through this thread you should find a link to the Beta download site which will have it as well.
Let me know how you get on.
Try one thing at a time. I suggest the Sid Speek and IRQ's stuff first as then you may not have to roll back.
If you do roll back, I found that using system restore was oftern the most effective way of doing, Ie returning the system back to a point before you installed the Focusrite, (STart/Progreams/accesssories/system tools) I think is how you get there :)
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RE: Liquid Mix hanging problem solved ANother Driver update
2008/07/17 03:44:20
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still working on it - I missed this one ...
Please can you uninstall the Liquid Mix from your computer (START>CONTROL PANEL>ADD OR REMOVE PROGRAMS) and then run a Windows Search for all files or folders with "LiquidMix" in the name, and delete anything that comes up.
When you have done this please reboot your computer and reinstall the 2.2.1 software.
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Fingers Crossed...
-tbf
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RE: Liquid Mix hanging problem solved ANother Driver update
2008/07/18 03:26:27
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IT'S WORKING!!!
A VERY SPECIAL THANKS TO GORDON,
with an awesome team effort from Tom & Fred at PCAL and Andy at FOCUSRITE!
I learned a lot as I'm not a PC guy, I just play one with Sonar ;-)
I migrated from MAC/LOGIC a year ago so many of the ins/outs tips/tricks with Windows still elude me...
All of this information helped. It appears to be working and stable
(fingers crossed).
Ultimately here's what seemed to have worked - should it be helpful to anyone else.
Sonar 6.2.1 / Liquid Mix 2.0rc / XP
1) Uninstalled Liquid Mix
2) Search Files/Folders and removed everything that said "Liquid Mix"
3) Search Files/Folders and removed everything that said "Focusrite"
4) Physically found and deleted the Emulations folder (which was not found
in the searches)
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\LiquidMix
5) Downloaded Liquid Mix Software
LiquidMixWebSetup-2.0rc1.zip
6) Downloaded The 44 / 48 Emulations
7) Installed LiquidMixWebSetup-2.0rc1.zip
8) Rebooted Machine
9) Manually installed the Emulations
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\LiquidMix
10) Rebooted
11) Opened a new project, added a stereo instance, saved and reopened
project. IT WORKED!
12) Rebooted Machine
13) Opened my "trouble" project... NO PROBLEM!!!
AMEN.
I think what made the difference was:
DELETING EVERYTHING FROM ALL PREVIOUS INSTALLS INCLUDING THE EMULATIONS
It's possible I could repeat the steps above, again and try 2.2.1 - but
it's working... so I'm going to leave it alone.
The difference between my last attempt at 2.2.1 and 2.0rc was manually
deleting the emulation folder at
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\LiquidMix
and then reinstalling the emulations manually after running the installer.
THANKS AGAIN TO ALL.
I hope I am not speaking too soon!
-tbf
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RE: Liquid Mix hanging problem solved ANother Driver update
2008/07/18 08:46:56
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Awesome, glad you got it sorted. I am with you on the not changing it now its working. its gets worse once you have been using it a while.
I have projects with like 22 instances of it running, and I don't think I would be able to get the sounds i want without them.
Before I finished the Ep down in my signature I was getting cold sweats it was gonna break.
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RE: Liquid Mix hanging problem solved
2009/12/17 17:08:40
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Noel
Liquid Mix and Sonar 4 - are there any issues you have noticed in any of your work (testing?)?
I upgraded to S7 PE but my carillon TI+ can't handle the upgrade, CPU wise.
So back to Sonar 4 - and as consolation am thinking of getting an LM 16 channel version.
Thank you in advance
Alex
Alex Carillon TI+ Windows XP SONAR 7 PE EMU 0404 CME 5 Midi Keyboard Oxford, UK
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