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Lakeshore Drive

* Update* - Added field recording of Lakeshore Drive at night to intro - 09/24/2017
 
This song was written way back in 1997. I was in a jazz/smooth jazz/new age phase and I always liked how this one turned out. Back then, I didn't mix...at all. All tracks were 100% midi recorded in realtime to a DAT machine from physical midi devices. Any "mixing" I did was midi based volume and panning. It was a pretty primitive setup compared to what I do now, but it worked for me at the time.
 
So, I decided to re-record the song and actually mix it. I thought it would be easy since I'd written it before and knew how the thing ended. But no, it took a heck of a lot longer than I'd planned to redo this song because I just couldn't help but change things as I went along.
 
https://dancumpian.bandcamp.com/track/lakeshore-drive
 
I hope you enjoy the listen!  Any feedback is always welcome.
 
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Dan
post edited by dcumpian - 2017/09/24 13:49:25

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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/08 17:40:19 (permalink)
    Good, bad or indifferent the piano sounds like Bruce Hornsby to me.
     
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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/08 17:52:41 (permalink)
    Definitely has that New Age Yanni sound. I'm glad you released this as I enjoyed the listen and the mix sounds good here.

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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/08 18:16:04 (permalink)
    Very nice track Dan. Clean and groovin'
    Nice changes.
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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/08 19:56:04 (permalink)
    bapu
    Good, bad or indifferent the piano sounds like Bruce Hornsby to me.
     
    No crits here.




    The original version had an electric piano. This one has a very resonant piano from Sampletekk. Now, if you're saying I play like Bruce, I'll take it
     
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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/08 21:08:10 (permalink)
    Hey Dan,
    Yeah, I hear a little Hornsby and some Yanni in there.
    Beautiful arrangement, great listen.
     

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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/09 04:05:01 (permalink)
    Wow is that mix punchy! The drums are amazingly well mixed I think.  The background oooohing and aaaaahing from whatever choral patch fills everything out so well.  Bass is tight and yes, punchy! 
     
    I listened on headphones and again on big speakers. Great vibe and feel on this!
     
    My headphones listen was where I might suggest something, the intro piano seems like most of the notes are velocitied above 100, maybe more dynamics there would be a thought. The piano comes in a little hot and compressed right at the very beginning - I don't know if it's compression or just midi hitting the upper 90's or 100's ?  
     
    In the rest of your piece, where the piano is accompanied, the piano volume seems to blend just great with the rest. I'd dearly love to see a screenshot of your mix, because all those tracks and your effects upon them seem very well placed.
     
    This piece made me want to go there, and then.  :)
     
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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/09 11:13:36 (permalink)
    Other than the Piano sounding a little overly bright and hot in the intro I enjoyed this Dan, nicely constructed track well captured.

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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/09 12:40:22 (permalink)
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    Definitely has that New Age Yanni sound. I'm glad you released this as I enjoyed the listen and the mix sounds good here.




    Thanks Adrian! Glad to hear you liked it!
     
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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/09 15:30:05 (permalink)
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    All tracks were 100% midi recorded in realtime to a DAT machine from physical midi devices. Any "mixing" I did was midi based volume and panning.




    Hi Dan,
     
    This is pretty much how I used to work. Only difference being I recorded my MIDI "performance" onto my hard drive using Sound Forge. Oh, and my stuff sounded blooming awful, mix wise haha... So glad I mix "in the box" nowadays
     
    Loving Lakeshore Drive. I always know I am going to be listening to lovely clean mixes and really great tunes when I call into your posts here Dan
     
     
    cheers
     
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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/10 04:15:21 (permalink)
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    Very nice track Dan. Clean and groovin'
    Nice changes.




    Thanks Steve!
     
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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/10 11:12:38 (permalink)
    Well worth re-recording Dan, really good stuff, enjoyed that.

     
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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/10 13:28:47 (permalink)
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    Wow is that mix punchy! The drums are amazingly well mixed I think.  The background oooohing and aaaaahing from whatever choral patch fills everything out so well.  Bass is tight and yes, punchy! 
     
    I listened on headphones and again on big speakers. Great vibe and feel on this!
     
    My headphones listen was where I might suggest something, the intro piano seems like most of the notes are velocitied above 100, maybe more dynamics there would be a thought. The piano comes in a little hot and compressed right at the very beginning - I don't know if it's compression or just midi hitting the upper 90's or 100's ?  
     
    In the rest of your piece, where the piano is accompanied, the piano volume seems to blend just great with the rest. I'd dearly love to see a screenshot of your mix, because all those tracks and your effects upon them seem very well placed.
     
    This piece made me want to go there, and then.  :)
     
    cheers,
    -Tom
     
     
     
     


    The velocities in the intro range from 65 to 95. Like I mentioned earlier, the piano I used is very resonant because I knew the mix was going to be a bit dense, so I wanted it to cut through. I might ride the levels s bit more in the intro, and maybe automate an EQ as well. That piano does have a bite.

    Glad you like the bass/drums mix. That took me longer than usual to get because I was looking for a more intimate sound than what I usually use. If there is anything you'd like to know, feel free to ask.

    Thanks again Tom!

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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/11 11:06:39 (permalink)
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    Hey Dan,
    Yeah, I hear a little Hornsby and some Yanni in there.
    Beautiful arrangement, great listen.
     




    Thank you Arlen! I appreciate it!
     
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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/11 13:14:36 (permalink)
    Great tune. Very uplifting!

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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/12 11:05:35 (permalink)
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    Other than the Piano sounding a little overly bright and hot in the intro I enjoyed this Dan, nicely constructed track well captured.




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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/13 11:04:47 (permalink)
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    All tracks were 100% midi recorded in realtime to a DAT machine from physical midi devices. Any "mixing" I did was midi based volume and panning.




    Hi Dan,
     
    This is pretty much how I used to work. Only difference being I recorded my MIDI "performance" onto my hard drive using Sound Forge. Oh, and my stuff sounded blooming awful, mix wise haha... So glad I mix "in the box" nowadays
     
    Loving Lakeshore Drive. I always know I am going to be listening to lovely clean mixes and really great tunes when I call into your posts here Dan
     
     
    cheers
     
    andy




    Thanks for that Andy! I appreciate the kind words...
     
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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/13 17:26:28 (permalink)
    Dan,
     
    Great work as always.   Mix is really good too.  I really like the funky wah guitar in there.  The guitar application in that regard reminds me a little of Barry White's Love Theme, or any Bee Gees song:)   Sounds good.
     
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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/14 11:18:19 (permalink)
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    Well worth re-recording Dan, really good stuff, enjoyed that.




    Thanks James!
     
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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/15 17:49:31 (permalink)
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    Great tune. Very uplifting!




    Thank you!
     
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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/16 12:43:15 (permalink)
    Lovely way to start my day, thanks!
    Quite a lot going on here, very nicely done.
     
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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/16 19:27:56 (permalink)
    Hi Dan
    Great arranging & thematic development as your song plays through ..Real nice mix. Love the Sweet New Age Progressive type Vibe .
     
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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/17 15:27:58 (permalink)
    Nice one Dan. :)
    Really like when it evolves at 1:37.

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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/18 11:14:09 (permalink)
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    Dan,
     
    Great work as always.   Mix is really good too.  I really like the funky wah guitar in there.  The guitar application in that regard reminds me a little of Barry White's Love Theme, or any Bee Gees song:)   Sounds good.
     
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    Thanks Mark!  Funny you should reference Barry White. The original version of this had some cheesy synth strings attempting to imitate that style. I decided not to revive that part of the original, lol. Doing the wah guitar was a lot of fun though!
     
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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/19 12:17:39 (permalink)
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    Lovely way to start my day, thanks!
    Quite a lot going on here, very nicely done.
     
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    Thanks Tom!
     
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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/19 12:41:41 (permalink)
    Took another listen, section 2 if you like (1:10 ish),
    the Strat (I assume the Strat) is very ethereal.
    Mind revealing the signal chain on that?
     
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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/19 20:25:19 (permalink)
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    Hi Dan
    Great arranging & thematic development as your song plays through ..Real nice mix. Love the Sweet New Age Progressive type Vibe .
     
    Kenny




    Thanks Kenny! I appreciate the listen and your comments!
     
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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/19 22:14:35 (permalink)
    Beautiful sound~ 
    It is a feeling of driving with a cool river wind.
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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/21 04:10:12 (permalink)
    Dan,
    You know I dig it!  Really cool.  Opening piano tone reminded me of Super Tramp.  I bought it.  An easy purchase! 

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    dcumpian
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    Re: Lakeshore Drive 2017/09/21 11:15:57 (permalink)
    kloon
    Nice one Dan. :)
    Really like when it evolves at 1:37.




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