drewfx1

BenMMusTech


There is no such thing, it's like asking what is your most hated beethoven tune or mozart.

We are talking about the formost composers of the 20th century, even Ringo's contributions were better than anything you hear today, Octopus's Garden, and Don't Pass Me By.

I think Bapu started this thread, just to rile me.

What more can I say, Rocky Racoon, so it's not the best song but lets compare it to Fireworks by Katy Perry and her team of writers, I know what I would pick.

Neb calling in from the planet Neb

Sorry it was Drew who Started this thread, sorry Bapu and sorry Drew

Ben, you're a wee bit touchy here.

"Least favorite" doesn't mean "the worst song ever written". 

It just means "I personally like all the other Beatles songs better than this one".

MNorman


Why Don't We Do it in the Road

jamesg1213

drewfx1

BenMMusTech


There is no such thing, it's like asking what is your most hated beethoven tune or mozart.

We are talking about the formost composers of the 20th century, even Ringo's contributions were better than anything you hear today, Octopus's Garden, and Don't Pass Me By.

I think Bapu started this thread, just to rile me.

What more can I say, Rocky Racoon, so it's not the best song but lets compare it to Fireworks by Katy Perry and her team of writers, I know what I would pick.

Neb calling in from the planet Neb

Sorry it was Drew who Started this thread, sorry Bapu and sorry Drew

Ben, you're a wee bit touchy here.

"Least favorite" doesn't mean "the worst song ever written". 

It just means "I personally like all the other Beatles songs better than this one".

Ben is in the running for the..

Moshkaie Award for Completely Over the Top Bludgeoning Home of a Point about a Favourite Band Which No-one was Actually Disputing Anyway.

Or, the MACOTBHOPAFBWNWADAs .

"That was John Lennon's favorite Paul Mc song"

MNorman

"That was John Lennon's favorite Paul Mc song"

 
Hmm...I can't find evidence of that, albeit after a relatively short search.  Rather, John was a bit put out by his lack of involvement in the recording, according to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_Don't_We_Do_It_in_the_Road%3F

MakeShift


I remember JL saying the same thing about "Do It In the Road"  Called it one of the most bloody honest songs Paul ever wrote.  John did change his mind a lot.  His answers seem to change based on the mood of the day.

Least favorite, would have to be a toss up between #9 (there you go Ben) of Savory Truffle.

Rain

BenMMusTech


And no I am not being superior but the firstt thing we are told as academics is DONT USE WIKIPDIA!! 
 
Sorry Nebula 

Ben, I will be honest here - that above is exactly why you come across as you do, even if it's not your intention.


First: You always make a distinction between yourself and the rest of the world: "we as academics". Sorry to rain on your parade bro, but education is common in most developed countries. Some people here are probably way more educated than you are. Like, way way way more.

Just drop it, man.

Second: Some of us figured out by themselves that Wiki isn't the be-all-end-all source of knowledge. We didn't even need to be told. And we don't need someone who was told not to use wiki to generously dispense that wisdom to us.

That's the attitude that you have to enlighten us again, which implies that you know more.

Thirdly: You seem to assume that the Beatles are this mysterious thing that you have to explain to the rest of us. That they have secrets that only you and a few silent others know about. 

But any of the books that you've read has been read at some point by someone else. None of that stuff is top-secret or confidential. And some people probably read just as much as you did. I know I did read my share of them.

Fourthly: You assume an awful lot in terms of "knowing" what Lennon meant. Your assumption is that you understand it better than most. 

If you've seen the little movie Imagine John Lennon (I'm sure you have), there's a guy lurking in their backyard assuming that there's some sort of connexion between Lennon and him and that he got Lennon's message, and that it all makes sense. Another of those guys who thought he "knew" Lennon too well ended up shooting him. 

Any claims at authority on the subject are totally subjective and entirely yours, unless you have a paper from Lennon himself stating that you are authorized to speak in his name.


Sorry man, but you don't own the Beatles or Lennon. There are people out there who know just as much as you do on the subject, more than a few, and who've been as into them as you are since the 60s. It's inevitable - we're not talking about a local band form your hometown here - as you said it yourself, Time Magazine ranks Lennon 8th on their Man the 20th century list. I guess a few people must know about him.

backwoods


I've never heard of a MMusTech degree before. 

"Everyone is ignorant, just on different subjects."- Will Rogers

jamesyoyo

BenMMusTech


And no I am not being superior but the firstt thing we are told as academics is DONT USE WIKIPDIA!! 

Funny, I thought academics eventually learn spelling at some point. Dude, you undermine your credentials constantly by having some of the worst grammar on these boards (and man oh man is that saying sumthin!).

Rain

BenMMusTech

Rain 

Oh Lord Please Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood!! 
 
Ok I am going to across as some know it all wanka, at a masters level, that is beyond an undergraduate degree, we are classified as academics.  That is why we get to have intials after our name to denote we have reached a certain level. 
 
Does that mean I am better than you??  To quote Lennon: "I'm not better or greater, I just said what I said and now there is all this". 
 
Lets get this straight as well and this will make me unpopular, we are still divided by class, they're the lower socio econmic groups who tend and I say tend to be undeucated, then they're the middle classes "I'm alright Jack keep your hands off my stack" The upper rich classes and most will never see their ivory palaces and then they're the academic classes. 
 
And lets get this straight they are as equally protective of their status as the upper classes and we should not denigrate the academic classes, most have strangely wired brains, thats what make us good at analysis, working things out and putting the picture togther. 
 
Remember:  "I'm not better or greater, I just said what I said and now there is all this" 
 
But I am going to protect my posistion on the ladder of socity, my family come from the lower socio economic group and are uneducated, some could even be called retared.  I am the only one to climb out of that sludge. 
 
So one again I will protect the posistion I have climbed on socities ladder for all it's worth and even if it makes me unpopular, lets get this straight, I know my degree's are cornflake packet degree's but they open doors and I can get my toe in where possibly a person without MMusTech at the end of their name will have it slamed.  I know this because all I have been doing for the last three weeks is opening doors with MMusTech. 
 
Remember: "I'm not better or greater, I just said what I said and now there is all this" 
 
As for the Lennon thing I know the scene well, once again as an academic, it is my job to analyse, so I have drawn a conclusion that I understand when he is being sarcastic and when he is not.  Am I right who know's I won't until I ask him when I reach that great gig in the sky and we have that jam. 
 
Remember: "I'm not better or greater, I just said what I said and now there is all this" 
 
Neb 

See, that's exactly it Ben.


A - you don't need to quote Lennon to me as: I've read all I wanted or needed to know about him, and secondly, in this very case it just achieves the opposite of what you say you're trying to achieve - you are, once more, appropriating Lennon, his words, to lend YOURSELF credibility.


B - The last thing I need when I come here is a lecture on classes. I went to school and I studied all that stuff. And I'm sure it's the same for a lot of folks here.


C- I don't even know how you manage to once again make this spiral into a class-related issue. No one bring that up - you're the one bringing that crap up all the time and making it into a "me against the world". No one is trying to rob you of anything, of your "position", of your knowledge - but you don't OWN the Beatles, no matter how special you think your knowledge makes you. You're just a fan among millions of them Ben. And thousands of them know as much as you do.


D - Your job as an academic?  I can't believe you still bring that. Again. It's the Coffee House - the place is full of musicians, a lot of them could teach you a thing or two and have 10 times your credentials. 


FWIW - I studied philosophy Ben. I've also studied literature and classical music. I've played jazz. I speak my native language French, but also your language English (which I manage to spell correctly unlike certain academics - and I do type fast ;) - also bit of Spanish. Learning German these days. 


I've had music in documentaries that were shown not only in my native Canada, but in Europe. Among other things. I'm currently writing music for a lady who has a few gold records hanging on our studio walls. 


And like you, I've read dozens of books about The Beatles. I don't put letters after my nickname though. I know that there are countless folks here who can teach me a lot of things. Everyone is bound to know things I don't know.

Anyway, you do as you wish, Ben. The folks here have been prompt to accept you as one of us, to demonstrate how much they care and sympathize (I included). I would have hoped that you would have realized that you didn't have to try and look special by constantly using The Beatles and rambling about classes and academics and such. People can be incredibly kind around here, they all treat you as an equal, as one of the guys, and you're constantly roughing them to boost your ego when it's what makes them uncomfortable - not you, your frickin' attitude.

Clearly, you don't want to sit back and realize that you are among friends enjoy a coffee w/ the rest of us, so I'm leaving this "table".