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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 02:53:15
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I don't know if z3ta is the best example, Noel specifically mentioned Drum Replacer & VocalSync as examples. But he also said maybe they would not have been included. The problem is no one, including Cakewalk, knows exactly what will appear in the future. As a result they will have to decide on a case-by-case basis. There have been things CW planned to do that didn't pan out and were shelved, and other things they that just kind of came out of nowhere and became part of the program. There's absolutely no way CW can make set-in-stone predictions about the future. What Brian Walton wrote shows insight into the reality of the situation: "Well they didn't offer Rapture Pro as part of the package and that was 'rolled out' during the subscription model. "I think Cake is smart enough to know that it will have to continue to include the occasional special feature (drum replacer, vocal sync) as part of the package to catch the eye of more new users. I'd expect them to pick and choose a little bit, just like they did with Rapture Pro.....where they gave us Rapture Session instead and Pro as a paid add on if you so choose." Also CW has to assess the reaction to the Platinum lifetime updates before taking the whole process to the next level. I think virtually no one who buys into the Platinum lifetime updates will be disappointed in terms of getting value for money. What I wonder is why anyone would rather pay for yearly renewals when they can pay once and not have to pay again. If they only use SONAR for 18 more months they still come out ahead. For Platinum users, I'll echo all those here who find buying the lifetime updates a no-brainer. It remains to be seen what happens with the rest of the programs and update options. Those haven't been announced yet. I assume that will happen on August 31st, after Cakewalk has had a chance to take stock of how this initiative fared. It wouldn't surprise me if ultimately, some add-ons that are unique (i.e., no one would have something similar from another company) would be considered an update for Platinum users but not Artist. Basically, that's the way things are now, except in the future there would be much more choice overall.
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 04:16:08
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What I wonder is why anyone would rather pay for yearly renewals when they can pay once and not have to pay again. If they only use SONAR for 18 more months they still come out ahead.
Totally agree Craig. My only hesitation was that having used Cakewalk products for 20 years plus, I have been absolutely thrilled with the rollout over the past 18 months, and the inclusions have encouraged me to integrate features that I probably never would have otherwise. Yes - an old dog learned a couple of new tricks! I was quite happy to continue paying yearly if there were more inclusions. There aren't, so the lifetime package represents a stunningly good deal. I reckon I have about 10 years till gig retirement - but who's to say I'll stop using Sonar then:)
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 06:44:48
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☄ Helpfulby eikelbijter 2016/06/04 07:05:22
Anderton
What I wonder is why anyone would rather pay for yearly renewals when they can pay once and not have to pay again. If they only use SONAR for 18 more months they still come out ahead.
Well, I can answer that straight away. My cost to go lifetime is around £150. Which is a good price. However, I don't have £150 going spare, and I might well not have any time before the end of August. But this has wandered off the point. The thread isn't asking for more talk about whether the lifetime membership is a good deal or not. As it stands, the fact of the matter is this. An annual / monthly membership for Platinum is about 50% more expensive than an annual / monthly membership for professional. But based on what's being said, it will not actually include anything new that won't also be in Professional. I'd really like to see this addressed with some clarity.
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 07:57:49
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As it stands, the fact of the matter is this. An annual / monthly membership for Platinum is about 50% more expensive than an annual / monthly membership for professional. But based on what's being said, it will not actually include anything new that won't also be in Professional.
I'd really like to see this addressed with some clarity.
Really? I presumed there was still to be a separate update package for each version John. I see your point about the disparity if there isn't. You could almost say the lifetime offer is the payoff for this, which doesn't help anyone that can't take it up in the next 90 days. From all of the info it seems things are still very much in flux. Hopefully someone will address these concerns soon. They are certainly measurable and quite different from the speculative threads that have filled the forum.
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 08:11:52
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yup a little confused here too.
lets hope for more info to clear the details up.
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 08:24:48
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This is a bit of a vain hope, I suppose, but I can't help feeling that these kinds of things could be worked out and cleared up a lot easier if there weren't all these "CAKEWALK SUDDENLY SELLS SOUL TO SATAN AND RIPS EVERYONE OFF" threads for them to firefight.
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 08:38:58
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 08:45:50
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Oh man you guys are way overthinking this and confusing yourselves and others with these mile long threads. Its very simple... Lifetime updates = Annual updates x infinity When you buy SONAR as a new user or as an upgrader we have always had some bundled extra's including 3rd party ones. We will continue to do so. Now I'm speculating here myself since we haven't hit that point in time yet, but in SUBSEQUENT years after the first year of the lifetime membership, any extras that have been added at that time, or new HIGH cost features, may or may not be offered free. The final decision for this is solely Cakewalk's of course, but the chances are very high that most add on's will be considered core features or be offered at highly discounted prices to lifetime members. Lifetime members are treated as premium valued customers so we want to give them the maximum value. As has been said countless times - we believe in happy customers. Now in response to the question of whether we will offer both lifetime and annual plans simultaneously, the answer is no. It would be too confusing to users and it provides no extra value to them. During the period that lifetime updates are being offered we will not offer an annual membership sku for new customers as well as existing users upgrading their membership. You can see that today on our store here. If you buy Platinum as a NEW customer this is what you get:
http://www.cakewalk.com/P...w/SONAR-Platinum#start
Lifetime Updates includedWhen you buy this version of SONAR Platinum, you will receive every new core feature, enhancement, and even fixes for all future versions of SONAR
Limited time offer: Lifetime Updates will be available only through August 31, 2016. Act now to secure your lifetime updates. Pricing and availability subject to change.
On the other hand if you are renewing SONAR platinum membership you get this: http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Renew
Add Lifetime Updates to SONAR Platinum which includes new core features, enhancements, and fixes for future versions of SONAR.
Notice that in both new user and upgrade cases only lifetime updates are being offered as opposed to an annual membership plan. I hope this clarifies the strategy going forward.
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 08:54:58
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/06/04 12:48:44
Thank You Noel for the clarification! They'll still be confused  T
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 08:55:15
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It doesn't really answer my question. I'm on the monthly plan, and am likely to stay on it. From this point going forward, what does the Platinum monthly membership offer than the Professional monthly membership doesn't?
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 09:03:50
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Monthly over lifetime offers pretty much nothing... You should switch to platinum lifetime if you plan on staying up to date since it offers you the highest value by far. The sole purpose of the monthly plan was for people who wanted to join and leave as they wish (paying a slightly higher price of course) or for those who didn't want to pay upfront and spread the payment out over time. It looks like you run a pro business and are committed to using SONAR so a monthly option actually creates more hassle for you, since you have to now keep your membership active or if it expires it will go into demo mode (you will own your last annual period of course). Of course if you want to pay us a bit more by going monthly I won't stop you :) EDIT: I see that you were asking about platinum/professional monthly plans. Nothing will change there. We will still distinguish features based on the product they are offered in. i.e some Platinum features wont be offered at all in professional. Eg features like drum replacer and vocal sync won't be offered in professional. We may allow you to purchase and add features ala carte in the future but that is to be determined.
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 09:20:46
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Well, in terms of running a pro business, here's where I am. I managed to give up my day job just over two and half years ago to go full time self-employed doing audio of various kinds.
As is to be generally expected when making such a move, the first thing that happened is my income dropped considerably, and has slowly started to crawl back up over a couple of years of building up the business. So yes, while the lifetime thing would make a lot of sense if I had £150 lying around, I just don't. Am still very much in a bootstrapping just-about-scraping-by phase. Which is nobody else's concern, of course.
Surely you can see, where the confusion arises. It's been said several times by Cakewalk that Platinum going forward will be more core stuff and add ons will be generally outside of that.
Now, going through the rolling updates page, there are about five things that were Platinum only. Drum Replacer, Vocal Synch, Lounge Lizard, Strum, and a couple of other odds and ends.
These are exactly the kind of things that seem to be deemed non-core. Which is fine, except, as I keep saying, it looks like the Platinum monthly deal offers nothing that the Professional doesn't, going by what Cakewalk reps have said.
I'm not accusing anyone of a rip off or anything, I just think this hasn't been thought through. In my position, why would I not just switch to Professional for the cheaper price?
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 09:24:27
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Thank You Noel for the clarification!
They'll still be confused
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Thanks for sycophantic post complete with pointless, condescending snark.
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 09:27:26
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"Oh man you guys are way overthinking this and confusing yourselves and others with these mile long threads."
This says it all. This offer is the definition of a no brainer.
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 09:29:02
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 09:40:03
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In my position, why would I not just switch to Professional for the cheaper price?
I guess it would depend on whether you plan to stay current and in business for more than a couple of years. And if the total return on the £150 would be greater by spreading the payments over time verses a single one time payment. You are the only one that can run the numbers for your situation and there are a couple of months to make the decision.
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 09:42:54
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I will be going to the lifetime SPlat next month.
The biggest reason is that most of the recent upgrades include a lot of things I really don't use. Since I play bluegrass the drum stuff is useless to me. Same for the electronic synths, and there is a host of other functionality I don't use.
I do like the idea of getting core updates without all the extras. If I need something I prefer to buy it separately.
I think Cake is going to a Pro Tools environment where they don't try to be everything to everybody. Cake will add value to the core, but their money will come from things like Vocal sync, etc. Microsoft did this years ago with Windows,Office and Visual Studio. Windows is free, but you have to pay big for Office and Visual Studio. Not every Windows user needs Visual Studio, so you pay extra if you need it.
Also, I have seen great knashing of teeth over lifetime memberships paying for Porting to OSX. I don't think that is the case. Does it make sense to you to charge your existing Windows customers to fund development on another platform? I think professional studios are starting to realize that Pro Tools might not offer the value it once did relative to Sonar, and Cake is going to capitalize on that big time. Notice Craig Anderton doesn't want the competition reading this forum because he doesn't want the competition gong to the same lifetime model.
Anyway, thanks Noel,Craig and the dev team for doing such great work. I look forward to the new lifetime distribution model.
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 09:53:19
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In my position, why would I not just switch to Professional for the cheaper price?
I guess it would depend on whether you plan to stay current and in business for more than a couple of years.
I don't see how that has anything to do with it. I dunno, perhaps I should give up. It seems like a simple question to me, but I'm clearly failing to communicate it somehow. I'll give it one last go. What will Platinum offer that Professional doesn't, going forward, given that all Platinum-only features to date, are precisely the things that Cakewalk are describing as non-core? Talking about the value of the lifetime membership is not an answer to this question.
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 09:56:03
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Everyone now knows now that the lifetime update is a no brainer. If you read John's post, that is not his question. I see what you are getting at John. I find it incredulous that others dont. There's a pretty big logical flaw in the monthly subscription plans as they have been layed out thus far with regard to differentiating between levels moving forward. Even for brand new users, after the first 12 months, how do you justify charging twice as much if there are no ongoing additional features added? No one thinks there is a conspiracy here - but the picture is far from complete. And please try not to tell us again that the lifetime updates are a no brainer. We know. This question relates not only to those that for whatever reason can't take advantage of the lifetime offer, but to every new user after August, when lifetime updates cease.
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 10:35:53
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Everyone now knows now that the lifetime update is a no brainer. If you read John's post, that is not his question.
I see what you are getting at John. I find it incredulous that others dont. There's a pretty big logical flaw in the monthly subscription plans as they have been layed out thus far with regard to differentiating between levels moving forward. Even for brand new users, after the first 12 months, how do you justify charging twice as much if there are no ongoing additional features added? No one thinks there is a conspiracy here - but the picture is far from complete.
And please try not to tell us again that the lifetime updates are a no brainer. We know. This question relates not only to those that for whatever reason can't take advantage of the lifetime offer, but to every new user after August, when lifetime updates cease.
Judging on how things have been handled previously - What is considered a core feature for Platinum will not always be considered a core feature for Professional. The way I understood it is the lifetime offer/pricing is for the existing customer base offered as a thank you for their previous support. New users do not fit that category.
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 10:38:59
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The way I understood it is the lifetime offer/pricing is for the existing customer base offered as a thank you for their previous support.
New users do not fit that category.
The lifetime offer is available to new customers in the store right now. I think what we can now say with some certainty is that there is a massive amount of confusion about what's going on. So many people have popped up with so many different interpretations, that at this point, telling people they're over-thinking it doesn't really stand up. Cakewalk are clearly under-explaining it.
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 10:41:50
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Yeah, thinking about it, I'll stick my cards down on that point.
I think the Mac thing is really great, I think the lifetime updates are really great, and I think the forthcoming features all look great.
But the roll out and communication of how this is going to work is, right now, an unholy mess. Sorry, but there it is.
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 10:44:40
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After writing and rewriting a reply, I think the best thing to do is I apologize for posting in this thread. Just ignore my posts. I see no reason to get involved in trying to create reasons for some else to buy a product.
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 10:51:44
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In my position, why would I not just switch to Professional for the cheaper price?
I guess it would depend on whether you plan to stay current and in business for more than a couple of years.
I don't see how that has anything to do with it.
I dunno, perhaps I should give up. It seems like a simple question to me, but I'm clearly failing to communicate it somehow.
I'll give it one last go.
What will Platinum offer that Professional doesn't, going forward, given that all Platinum-only features to date, are precisely the things that Cakewalk are describing as non-core?
Talking about the value of the lifetime membership is not an answer to this question.
I see what the problem is. At least I think I see. Its what is included in the lifetime update. Will it contain all of the Platinum features we expect? I think this has been answered but with all the noise it may have been hard to hear it. It will be as it is now. That is my understanding. What comes with Platinum will come with the lifetime version. There maybe new synths or plugins that are not included but that is no different from how it is now. I hope this has cleared that up. I'm uneasy about adding this bit but I think its important. If you are subscribed to a monthly payment plan and you are getting Professional I would make the jump to Platinum Lifetime if only to save a lot of money. You may not need Platinum but I don't believe there is a Professional Lifetime offer.
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 10:53:11
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Well, I'll say it one last time. "Talking about the value of the lifetime membership is not an answer to this question."
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2016/06/04 10:53:53
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With respect, John, you can't clear it up, as you are no more informed than any of us. It needs Cakewalk to clarify it.
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 11:03:38
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With respect, John, you can't clear it up, as you are no more informed than any of us. It needs Cakewalk to clarify it.
So as a peer to peer forum no member can answer a question? Not a host or anyone else? Sorry I have to reject that as a notion. If you want to talk to CW you need to contact them by other means. You may not accept my answer but I sure can answer. So can anyone else.
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 11:04:43
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No, you're free to say whatever you like, but you don't actually know the answer to what I'm asking.
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 11:23:40
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Re: Lifetime updates vs Yearly Membership payment.
2016/06/04 11:34:38
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Will a LifeTime license allow me to run Sonar on more than one machine. If possible, how is a non-core purchase run on a different; e.g. Cubase, on same machine. For instance, Vocal Sync which is ARA dependent (I assume) is built to run on Sonar, but a synth like Rapture Pro can run on said Cubase. So what if Cakewalk makes a synth which needs ARA to run, it will be non-core but Sonar only.
Then the coming Mac. Will LifeTime be required a separate purchase should a person desire too.
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