Limited routing on V Studio 700

It shouldnt be about what Weather you use SOnar or protools your clients should be looking for the best sound on the budget ?

I know what you meen though Over here in scotland its like oooo pro tools then you say about sonar to some one and they just go blank like your talking another language

I started out useing Protools LE with a 003 factory got rid of it and got Sonar producer8.5 and the VS system I made the right choice

Protools are way behind the times have they even gone 64 bit yet ?

I get what your saying man but you said you are loseing clients ?

Why are you loseing clients ? Its not them who are using the DAW

So aslong as you can prove to them you can get a sond as good and I am sure alot better than pro tools then why cant they see that ?

I know protools was once classed as the "industry standard" but they are far from it now :)

I know over here in the Uk there is not a lot of top studios useing Sonar but from what I hear in america its more sonar than protools :)

i'm confused... are your clients end users... by that i mean do you give them a cd or mp3 when your done and they go their mary way... or are you doing some of their work and they take it else where to complete it... like another production house that uses pro tools HD?    if their end users then it doesn't matter what you use as long as the end result is good.  even if their having it mastered some where else. 

also, there is a huge difference between pro tools le and pro tools HD...   if your clients just think that pro tools is pro tools... then you need to inform them that as far as the LE version of pro tools go... sonar embarrasses it.

The DV toolkit for PT LE doubles track count, allows for trim automation and basically gives you an HD system without the HD hardware.  I already have that. And PT LE on my Macbook pro.  I also have a crummy M Box mini they gave me to work PT on. 
The bottom line is that I am losing clientele because I don't use PT.  Even when songs are complete, artists want their PT sessions.  They want to be able to have the sessions mixed elsewhere.  I had a client where I produced, recorded and mixed 4 songs, and then 6 months later he asked me for the session files to give to some guy that was going to do a remix.  The guy gave him an ear full when I gave him the consolidated files. 
I love Sonar as much as you guys do.  I think it ****s on PT.  That's not the point.  The point is A) PT is still the most widely used DAW software and having the ability to move sessions from studio to studio with ease is a big plus.  B) The ability to route your inputs to ADAT is a feature that was included in my FW1884, and that thing is damn near 10 years old.  Why Roland would have such limited usage on for the ADAT on their flagship product is beyond me.  What I'm trying to do is not that complicated, and I am simply saying that it really sucks that Roland did not include that feature. 

For the record, PT HD and LE are damn near the same thing as long as you have the DV Toolkit.  96 tracks, trim automation, some video stuff.  I haven't explored everything yet.  I don't like PT.  If I did, I would have kept my 003.  I like Sonar, but having the ability to have both would be awesome. 

Was that in the download? I didn't see it on the pages there. Many special versions relate to specific equipment combinations.

The only thing I was pointing is that a driver/firmware update is to be released soon.

They will probably get it out around the release date of the Octa-Capture since it is necessary to expand the v-studios.

There will be a vs-700C driver update
A vs-700C program update

vs700R cpu and dsp to 1.30 (very likely a dsp reverb and more routing option, like in the Octa-Capture)
 and Fantom to 1.30

Shure it will allow to use the Octa-Capture as an expansion but I'm shure there will be much more since Cakewalk always listen to their users and I'm pretty shure there will be a lot of very good surprises, very soon.

Dyonight


The only thing I was pointing is that a driver/firmware update is to be released soon.

They will probably get it out around the release date of the Octa-Capture since it is necessary to expand the v-studios.

There will be a vs-700C driver update
A vs-700C program update

I agree, there was recently an update released for the V-Studio 100 which specifically mentioned OCTA-CAPTURE support and lower latency. So I think its safe to assume that we should be seeing something similar for the VS-700 soon as well.


-e.B

Its done -  i was near by selling my unit because of the lack of direct monitoring and monitor mix.
 
Maybe this is a good sign. i ll put it on hold for couple of weeks
 
x my fingers for very good news VERY soon....

Here`s a link with updates to new version 1.3 on the V-studio 700
 
I dont know if there is any goodies but better drivers with ultra low latency  is promised...
 
Im going to download the upgrades and update my system tonite...
 
There is drivers etc for the new octacapture I/O 10/10
 
If there`s any goodies ill let you know
 
[link=http://www.roland.com/products/en/_support/dld.cfm?PRODUCT=VS%2D700SET&nstrw=1]http://www.roland.com/pro...S%2D700SET&nstrw=1[/link]

be careful when updating :-) own responsibility

 

Checking the version of the VS-700C console

[lang=ja][lang=ja]

Check the version of the VS-700C console, VS-700 I/O CPU, VS-700 I/O

DSP, and VS-700 I/O FANTOM VS.

If the version number is 1.30 or later, the update is not required.

the “ON” position (upward); this selects Update mode.

Normal setting Update mode

switches on the rear panel to the “OFF” position (downward).

Ive updateed my system and im on the run, everything seems ok. Ive updated the V-STUDIO VS 700 C / VS700R/VSFANTOM V1.30
 
*****Be very careful - this is not a game. It can mess up your system badly if it goes wrong******
 
My system is now up and running with the new updates - ive loaded som prosject and they seem to run ok.
 
Im sorry to say that i  so far have not found no goodies. But it promised too deliver less latency so ill try to compare with  old values.
 
We want an update of the direct monitoring on the I/O editor in the direct mix, like the Octa capture, with 4 seprate monitor mixes and possibility to ad some reverb and maybe some eq inside the direct mix, not trough sonar 
 
 Look here: From the V-Studio closer look.

Now if you wanted to give each musician his/her own separate headphone mix, that’s also

possible since the VS-700R provides 10 outputs (or 5 stereo pairs). You would just need a

headphone amp with multiple inputs. The only problem with this situation is that monitoring would

have to be through SONAR, rather than through the Direct Monitor Mixer. This could eventually

cause problems with latency depending on the number of tracks you’re working with, but I wanted

to be sure and mention that it is something that’s possible with the V-Studio 700 system.

Unfortunately, you can’t route to any of the individual outputs and the Mixer can’t be controlled via the Control

Surface – at least not entirely.
 

Hopefully, Cakewalk will find a different way to provide full Direct Monitor Mixer control from the Surface in a future

update. 

 

It would have been nice to know, if theres is going to be an update??? on the direct mix???

 it should have been included on a gear in this price segment. Or are all the VS users forced to by the the new I/O to get this option , or change to another brand.  

 
 

 

Shure it will allow to use the Octa-Capture as an expansion but I'm shure there will be much more since Cakewalk always listen to their users and I'm pretty shure there will be a lot of very good surprises, very soon

Shure it will allow to use the Octa-Capture as an expansion but I'm shure there will be much more since Cakewalk always listen to their users and I'm pretty shure there will be a lot of very good surprises, very soon
 
Dyonight: Ill Hope youll rigth about this

FreezeStudio

be careful when updating :-) own responsibility

 

Checking the version of the VS-700C console

[lang=ja][lang=ja]

Check the version of the VS-700C console, VS-700 I/O CPU, VS-700 I/O

DSP, and VS-700 I/O FANTOM VS.

If the version number is 1.30 or later, the update is not required.

1. Switch off the VS-700C’s power.

2. On the rear panel, set switch #8 of the “SETTING” switches to

the “ON” position (upward); this selects Update mode.

Normal setting Update mode

3. Switch on the VS-700C’s power.

4. The version is shown in the LCD display.

5. Switch the power off, then return switch #8 of the “SETTING”

switches on the rear panel to the “OFF” position (downward).

Hey I hope you can help I just checked and my versions are all 1.0.0.0 on the VS700 , Fantom and the console is 1.02

Could you like me to the down loads I need please? I can only find this linkhttp://www.cakewalk.com/S...Page.aspx?ID=VS7  and its not got the 1.30 drivers

Thanks for all your help

Norrie

Ryan Munnis [Cakewalk
]

Hi Everyone,

We are currently working on update instructions regarding the VS-700 Firmware and Windows Driver 2.0 updates. These instructions will help clarify the proper installation procedure.

The driver update requires the firmware updates, thus the careful attention we are taking to provide you with helpful instructions.

I will post an update as soon as this is available. In the meantime, please have patience as firmware updates are a delicate procedure that require careful attention.

Well, the cats out of the bag now. That's good news. I think I'll wait for the official release.