List of capabilities that have been removed in X1 (second try)

Lets do this: If you want to discuss the meaning of capabilities or functions etc... the other thread is quite active. For this every just make a list capabilities that have been removed in X1. Here are mine so far:
 
1) Inability to change Key+/- for multiple tracks
2) Inability to make changes to drum maps such as velocity while hearing results
3) Inability to customize colors to the extent of 8.5
4) Inability to customize the ribbon

Full customization capabilities for colour, toolbar and etc....

In X1 it is no longer possible to Arm, Solo or Mute a track via a keybinding WITHOUT both selecting it AND make it the active track. In S8 you could do this from ANY window and you could switch to any track by pressing arrow up/down and press a new MSR keybinded key WITHOUT clicking on the track each time you moved to a new track.

Heh, yeah, I see how this works. Nobody else who was talking sense in the other thread is going to be bothered to argue through all this guff again, so you end up with a thread bereft of counter arguments. Meaning you must be right! Lunatics.

1. I can no longer monitor the percentage of my CPU Usage like I could in 8.5. It is now a graphical representation that kind of leaves you guessing.

2. I am no longer capable of customizing the Tool Bar like I could in 8.5.

3. I am no longer capable of monitoring or changing Interleave from the Track Header like I could in 8.5.

4. I am no longer capable of changing Phase from the Track Header like I could in 8.5.

5. Envelopes are no longer labeled like they were in 8.5.

6.  I can no longer access all envelopes at once like I could in 8.5.

7. Almost all of the buttons are missing from the Tool Bar that were there in 8.5.

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Soundfont management support for hardware MIDI synths such as those found in the Creative Labs soundcards.

Maximize button removed from the track header.

MIDI icon missing from track header to distinguish a MIDI track from and audio track with the same name. (Although presence of the waveform preview button can serve the same purpose, assuming it's visible.)

Track layer toggle removed from track header.

Can no longer insert an automation envelope via context menu. (Yes that qualifies as lost functionality.)

You guys are all nuts!!!!  Leave it alone, Cakewalk, Roland have won.  I have not moved on from 8.5 and it is looking like a long time before I will.  Whats the point????  The only thing Cakewalk can do is give us, those of us who have been with this company and do not like the paradigm shift, is give us a legacy veiw.  This is my feature request, am actually realising how hard this could be if so much funtionality has been removed.

But honestly, this is a moot argument and you know why???  8.5 and whatever computer as long as the parts are reasonable and you have Windows Seven, this setup will last you for at least another two years.  Learn what you have got before going off and buying a new bike!!!!

When Windows 8 comes along and everything is 64 bit, then this disscussion would be more pertiniant,  at the moment the only thing any of us can do is stop buying Cakewalk products until they get it right, unfortunatly you have all gone out and spent your 100 bucks and Capt Cakewalk and his Right Hand Man Roland are laughing all the way to the bank!!! 

Peace Ben

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I'm actually a big fan of X1. The concept is great. I love Silverlight. The implementation was rushed and not completely worked out IMO. When MS Office went to the ribbon etc... It was an easy transition because they have for a long time now gone to great lengths to make long time users comfortable. And you can add any command to the little strip above the ribbon allowing as much customization as I'm likely to ever need. There were tutorials and previous version keystrokes available. Cakewalk totally dismissed all the long time users. It's a disturbing trend. The have been dismissing all the people clamoring for better video and notation and now they dismissed the loyal customers altogether.
 
Anyway back to the list...
 
 

This may sound strange to some - but even though I am NOT using X1, I do think they could turn it into a very very powerful and well accepted DAW if they want to.   Sonar is very feature rich (as is Ableton Live, for example).  But Sonar tends to appeal to the bands, vocalists, hobbyists mostly - whereas Live (as example) appeals to a much more pro level user.  Meaning pros who actually are visible, and major (top level DJs, producers, etc).

That doesn't mean there aren't pros using Sonar (there are - we know that) - just there are SO many more pros using other software.   Don't take my word for it.   Google your heart out researching this stuff.

I think CW (or Roland) made a choice about who they would appeal to and accept that it wasn't going to be the biggest DJs or biggest producers en mass, etc.    They may have also felt that NOT appealing specifically to those would let them grab a bigger share of the hobbyist market (which I suspect they have and will continue to have).   So all in all, it was probably a good "business" decision (though not necessarily a great design or musical one).

To have removed some of the very good functionality from previous versions (customization is a biggie for many) seems a strange decision.   Having some of the track and bus names condensed into unintelligible dribble also seems a strange decision to me.   Some of the things being discussed in this thread are more examples.

Yet, with all the things one may point to as negatives or lacking, there are still very loyal users (I suspect mostly newer ones) and very vocal X1 lovers.   That really shouldn't surprise anyone if you consider the market they were shooting for.

So - no matter what THIS thread may point out as having been removed, I suspect CW is not concerned.  They made decisions and as the old saying goes:  "That's their story and they're sticking to it" ;)

So onward we go - and it is my hope that there will be more "upward pressure" from users -- meaning, like this thread, to point out the things we really want back as well as for the future (new things).  

I think too much of the "I love X1" stuff keeps CW lazy, so to speak.   It's fine to love it.  Just don't let CW get too lazy!

Brandon has said they do notice and read these threads...and seem to be getting the point.

And who knows what changes Roland might have made in their direction or mission statement. Also, although most companies won't talk about it, this economy has a huge effect on what can be developed and the time frames.

> 1. I can no longer monitor the percentage of my CPU Usage like I could in 8.5. It is now a graphical representation that kind of leaves you guessing.


This graphical representation is perfectly fine when working live. You can read it quickly. With more and more cores being bundled with CPU's nowadays it's the only way to go. How else are you going to see 16 core's for instance next year? You want to see sixteen numbers blinking in rapid secession do you?
But if you really want to monitor your CPU then install this which is a Windows task manager replacement (nb EVERYBODY should install this in my view):
 
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653

This graphical representation is perfectly fine when working live. You can read it quickly

I think you mean YOU can read it quickly.  Not everyone else can.

I really wish people would speak solely for themselves and not assume others think/feel/see/hear/believe the way they do (without proof).

One can do something.  I can do something.

But when someone says "You can [fill in the blank]" it suggests one is demanding or expectingn the same of another.

Nuh uh ... :P

It's a practical necessity, when designing something, to have some sort of sense of minimum level and types of capability of users. Obviously, a bad design is one that gets that wrong somewhere to the unnecessary exclusion of generally capable users.

This brings to mind two questions:

Is "read this graph rather than this number" an unreasonable expectation? Is it too demanding of people's ability?

Also, I'm curious. What problems does having CPU as a graph rather than a number cause? In what situations is the number a superior option?