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Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
I have a Mesa Boogie Blue Angel amp that I'd like to get serviced (possible tubes needing replaced etc...) as I've never had it done (ever) since buying it brand new. I haven't used it in years and the last time I tried to power it on (last summer), the fuse(s) kept blowing. I'm planning on fixing it up so I can sell it. I've contacted a local repair guy here in Orlando, Bird_Dog_Bobby (LOL!....), who charges $65 per hour (amps) which is applied towards the repair (not including parts), if done within the 1st hour. (Of course, with a name like Bird Dog Bobby, how can I go wrong??!!!) I also have an electric with a Floyd Rose tremolo that needs some adjusting and he charges $85 (start to finish). Since I don't have much experience in these pricings, are these fairly reasonable fees for this service? I'm not sure how good the guys at Guitar Center are and haven't contacted them yet, but wanted to see what you all think before calling them??
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/14 12:07:41
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I'd say stay away from GC and try this guy out. His amp repair is a bit high in my opinion, but his guitar set-up is about spot on. I charge the same price here for set-ups, but they include: Action set up Intonation set up Truss rod adjustment Pup adjustment if needed (sometimes people have them too high and they wonder why they hear two tones when they try to play or tune) You bring your own strings Complete cleaning of the body, neck and hardware But that amp repair price....I have a certified Fender guy in my area who is one of the most sought after amp guys around here...he doesn't come close to that price and he's been fixing this stuff for 40 years. Heck he just fixed one of my mixing consoles while on his back like a car mechanic and came to my studio to do it for $60 total. I don't know man....maybe AmpFixer will stop in and give you his take. I'm not saying these amp guys aren't worth $65 an hour..but that seems a little high to me. -Danny
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/14 12:17:47
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For what it's worth... I have a GC about 2 miles from me and a place called The Starving Musician (about the same distance) which I've traded with for over 10 years. If it were me I would choose the the local shop and prefer to give them some business provided I hadn't heard any bad reviews about their ability/service. I would just want it done right the first time regardless on any minimal price delta. Ultimately, it becomes a judgment call on our part. That's my take on it.....good luck.
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/14 13:54:51
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I always went with one of the local shops. I've seen how some things get worked on at GC...
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2013/06/14 14:06:11
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True story: Several years ago I walked into a local guitar center and just happened to be standing at the repair counter talking to the guys. A youg man walked in and wanted a new set of strings put on his electric guitar. (No Wammy bar) and the repair guys had no idea of what to do.....I offered to change them right there and then for $10......it took them twenty minutes to decide to let me do it since they could not..... I do not drop anything off at guitar center to be repaired! I find a quality tech.... In Tampa here we have a guy who does some nice work.....he used to work for a local shop jus down the block from GC but the shop closed down and now he just works out of his won shop. I need to get my stuff over there to be set up soon..... Clifford
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/14 14:22:41
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@Danny, thanks so much for giving me something to gauge on. Regading the amp repair, what I'm afraid is if I have to replace a lot of tubes + his hourly rate, it might get costly. Quaz, Criag, & Clifford, GC seems to be the winner here <cough, cough, sarcasm cough>. I'm so glad I asked in here.....I should check around and see if there are other "reputable" local shops in the area.
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/14 15:21:15
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craigbI've seen how some things get worked on at GC. Hmm....I'm scared already. Although I've bought a few things from GC over many years none of it actually required any real service on their part. Product was in stock (mixers, monitors) so my experience was "like a duck mating". (Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins). My perception would be that the turnover at GC may have (3) different people working on it before you got your amp back. Sarcasm accepted. :) Good luck with the repair job. Carry on....
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/14 15:52:25
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Mesh If it is just tubes to be replaced. I would write all the tube numbers down, then google them and find out who has the best price on them and order and replace..... If you cannot find the tube numbers then get out the manual.....if you have lost your manual then go to the Mesa website and look for it in PDF format....or google that .....trust me you should be able to find it some where inside of 15 or 20 minutes......the manual should state what the numbers or kind of tubes are in that thing....if not......Google (is your friend) then and you should be able to find this information out......I do it all the time......and tubes are not really that expensive.....unless you really go for the absoulte high end!!!!!! Now if it is electronics ummm that would be out of my league... But if it is dirty pots then go to radio shack and get some spray cleaner and clean them up... Maybe take a vacum cleaner (and VERY Carefully) vacum out all the dust bunnies and such.... Many times it is only a couple of screws and the electronic base will come out of the amp....a dry paint brush will brush all the dust out....run the vacum while you do this...the pots on the front panel may just need some spray cleaner....the tubes just pull out and push in......After you clean .... Maybe look for some broken wires or poor soldered joints and all it may need is to be resoldered..... A lot of times it is some very simple repairs you can do yourself......if it does get too complicated you can ALWAYS go to the tech to have what you do not know or understand fix for you.....but you could be money ahead by just looking and trying yourself.... Just saying brother....but at least try... Cclifford
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/14 16:16:49
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Do not forgot that you can kill himself poking around inside a tube amp... even when it is unplugged from the wall. Just saying. best regards, mike edit grammar
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/14 18:37:11
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A burned out tube is usually like a burned out fuse, the current no longer flows. Why that would cause a fuse to blow repeatedly is a mystery. Maybe a melt down that causes an internal contact between a cathode and anode inside the tube? Typically a fuse blows when the current is escaping from the protected circuit to ground, or the circuit resistance is dramatically reduced. It is hit or miss whether a chain store like Guitar Center will have anyone on staff to do the repair. More likely they will subcontract it to some local tech (or ship it to a repair center) and mark up his fee so both can make a profit on the final bill to you.
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/15 01:20:20
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2013/06/16 11:03:32
Man, I'm always late to the threads I can actually contribute to. If it's not to late, here's my take. Those amps run hot and a tube failure is not unlikely. A very common failure is a short between the filament supply, 6.3 vac and one of the high voltage DC elements like a screen grid. You get an internal short and blow a fuse. Another common failure is with the rectifiers. Sometimes the surge current is high enough that a diode will short. A shorted power supply cap will also blow fuses. There's many possible causes. What I would do in this case is pull the power tubes and see if the amp still blows the fuse. If it doesn't blow the fuse then you've isolated the problem. Past that point you should take it to somebody that knows what they're doing. The pain of a high voltage shock is major, trust me. If you have an underlying heart condition you don't know about it truly could be fatal. IS your safety worth $60? And yes, even unplugged there are lethal voltage/current values stored in the power supply caps. I had one discharge on my finger and it burned a perfect little hole in it, just like somebody took a red hot pin and stabbed me. I'd go with a private guy that knows what they're talking about. I've seen the caliber of tech's that stores hire for minimum wage. Funny enough, when I do a job and calculate the time and money, I often find that I'm working for $3-$4 per hour. Get somebody that really loves working on gear and has good ears. Don't replace your tubes with Mesa branded tubes. They are usually Chinese and have nothing special going on. There's nothing wrong with them but they're overpriced. Tung Sol, Gold Lion, Electro Harmonics and Sovtek are all the same company in Russia. JJ is eastern Europe. Ruby is a re-brander with high standards. Groove tubes is now a Fender company with not so high standards (IMO). The country that gave us Telefunken is now selling Chinese tubes under the TAD brand> they are very good and have some proprietary deals with China. I'm about the only guy in my area that doesn't have a $60/hr standard fee. I actually do a complete service and all maintenance for around $60 plus parts for 2 output tubes. For 4 output tubes it's usually $75 - $100. If I run into a hard to find or intermittent problem it's my loss, but how can I expect the customer to pay for my lack of trouble shooting ability. Good luck.
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/15 03:09:26
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Mesh @Danny, thanks so much for giving me something to gauge on. Regading the amp repair, what I'm afraid is if I have to replace a lot of tubes + his hourly rate, it might get costly. Quaz, Criag, & Clifford, GC seems to be the winner here <cough, cough, sarcasm cough>.  I'm so glad I asked in here.....I should check around and see if there are other "reputable" local shops in the area.
Hey Mseh, who's Criag?
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/15 07:25:22
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"If I run into a hard to find or intermittent problem it's my loss, but how can I expect the customer to pay for my lack of trouble shooting ability." Hi John, I finally got the Jack Darr reprint with the service mans guide to trouble shooting guitar amps step by step... I like it because it formalizes the procedure and makes me feel like, all things considered, I have made the best use of time even if the issue does become hard to identify. :-) I think Mesh should ship you the amp and have it done right. :-) best regards, mike
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/15 09:26:34
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Hahaha see Mesh, Ampfixer to the rescue. I so wish he didn't live in Canada...I'd send all my stuff to him. Plus...he's got trustworthy looking text! Hahahahaha! -Danny
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/15 10:30:35
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Its a very interesting question. My thoughts are, "do you know for a fact that the local shop is good?" What if the local shop is an idiot? Its happened before. If your local shop is good, "go local." If your local shop is an idiot, "go guitarcenter." ("This post has been scientifically proven by Dr. Phase");
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/15 11:49:00
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I am living proof that anyone can be an idiot, on any given day. There's lots of good people doing work on gear. I've found that the real screw ups' quickly get identified and the word gets out. Some of the best guys I know work out of their homes and garages. I closed my shop about a year and a half ago because there wasn't enough work to justify the overhead. Now I only do work for guys I know, or those that hunt me down. Talk to local musicians and they will usually tell you who to avoid. Never take one bad report as the final word. I have found that every tech runs into a difficult repair or a crazy customer. For some reason people feel that cheap gear should come with cheap maintenance and repair costs. I often have to tell people that the cost of a repair is worth more than what they paid for their amp. Just because slaves build them, doesn't mean slaves will fix them.
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/15 16:46:48
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I love GC for somethings, but I always try to support local business first.
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/17 23:25:33
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I only take my guitars to certified and trusted luthiers for repair work but I found that learning how to do your own adjustments saves time and money. For the amps, if there are major issues then a certified repair person from the manufacturer will do. Unfortunately, my SSS manufacturer is difficult to reach and it's gooped anyway. Most of the other stuff I repair myself, no need for some Canadian ampfixer.
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/18 09:34:14
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mike_mccue "If I run into a hard to find or intermittent problem it's my loss, but how can I expect the customer to pay for my lack of trouble shooting ability." I think Mesh should ship you the amp and have it done right. :-) best regards, mike
I'd definitely send it John if the shipping isn't so expensive. At least I'll have a peace of mind knowing that it's in trustworthy hands and done right. I'll keep searching for a reliable "ampfixer" in my local area..... BTW pistolpete, this isn't just "some" Canadian ampfixer, but rather THE Canadian Ampfixer.
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/18 09:36:07
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2013/06/18 09:45:13
If you carry it to GC they will very likely farm it out anyway. Our local GC has a guy come in one day a week to work on stuff. He's a local repairman with his own shop in town. On the amp blowing fuses. Generally the Mesa stuff is built like a tank.... so a quick check at home would be to pull all the POWER TUBES out.... the biggest ones, usually either 2 or 4 of them in there. I see that BA MB uses 2 6L6 and 4 EL84 in the output stage..... Replacing all the tubes could be a bit costly. Get a couple of packs of fuses to experiment with. More than you will need.... maybe a dozen or so. Probably the easiest and fastest way to find that bad tube is to pull the power tubes out... put a new fuse in and turn it on. The fuse should not blow. If it blows, pull ALL the tubes, install a new fuse and turn it on again. If it does blow at this point, the short is somewhere else in the amp and a service tech should look at the amp. Assuming the fuse holds.... turn it off and insert the 2 6L6 tubes and turn it on. If it holds, those tubes are good. Shut it off. Leave the 6L6's in and insert 2 of the EL84's in the sockets that are furthest apart. Turn it on again. If it holds, pull them out and insert the other 2 84's in their place. turn it on again. At some point, the fuse should blow when the shorted tube is installed. By trial and error, you should be able to find it quickly. Always turn it off, insert the tubes and turn it back on. Tubes can get hot very quickly so be careful not to burn yourself on the glass envelopes. You can then replace the tube(s) yourself and save the shop's hourly bench fee. If you have enough fuses, you can substitute the tubes with one good one and find and replace the bad one if you're in a pinch for money. If I was selling the amp, I would replace ONLY the power tube that was bad. The repair shop will generally replace the bad tube only unless you instruct them to replace them all. I will probably start a war here, but, I don't see any use in replacing all the tubes in an amp "just because"..... I say replace the bad one and let it roll. It is generally not going to be a noticeable difference in the sound either way, but one way is certainly going to cost a bunch more money to do. I have run tube amps for many, many years. I always kept spare fuses (lots of them) and spare tubes as well. Generally one output tube and a few preamp tubes because they do go bad. I have also run some 100w 4 tube amps with 2 tubes when one of the quads went bad and I had no spare. Tube amps are designed to handle lots of abuse so don't worry about damaging the amp with the swapping and missing tubes. I have replaced all the tubes in my Mesa studio 22 (as well as other amps I have owned) and personally noticed no change in performance or tone from the old, supposedly worn out tubes to the brand new factory, high dollar matched set replacements. It is for THIS reason, I say to simply replace the bad tube and put the amp up for sale if that is your goal. I replace tubes only when they burn out the heater, short out, crack the glass envelope, become microphonic in the preamp stages, or short internally. Yes... I do agree there is a difference in tone between brands of tubes, and also from very old tubes to brand new ones. When selling the amp, that is generally not in play. The casual listener and the guy buying the amp will base their judgement and decision to buy the amp on the sound they hear when they plug in and play through it. I have never had a single person discuss the tubes in the amp when I sold the amps I have had. If that person wants, later, they can play with the tube brands to their heart's desire. If I have spare tubes for that amp that I don't need for any other amps I own, I will include the spares in the sale. Anyway... try the process above and replace that bad tube if it is a tube. Save the bench fee. If you are selling the amp, repair it as inexpensively as possible. You will NOT recover the cost of new tubes all the way around in any amp you are selling. Kinda like putting new, top of the line, tires on a used car before trading it in.... a waste of money.
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/18 09:43:26
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I had a guy from New jersey send me a 100% stock 1975 Princeton Reverb with 6V6 Russian tubes in it. They lasted about 2 hours before they shorted out and had a lightning show banging away inside them. Didn't hurt the fuse though... so I fixed it with some 6V6 tubes that actually worked in the amp.
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2013/06/18 09:53:29
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Thanks Herb....excellent points/tips there. Haveing never done this (pulling out tubes etc..) and of course the warning above about getting fried, I'm a bit worried on doing this myself. Generally, I'm ok with fiddling around and getting things to work, but if my life or there was bodily harm that could come out of it, I'd rather have a "professional" look at it. You guys are all experts and have a lot of experience in doing this and I don't........so, I'm obviously a bit hesitant....
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/18 16:28:00
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You won't get zapped by the high voltage just swapping tunes in and out. I said to shut the amp off between the tube swaps so that if the tube was shorted, the "pop" that happens when you install the tube in a "hot" circuit would occur in the fuse and not there at the tube. It might scare you, but won't hurt you.... so shut it off and that is not a factor. Do be careful since tubes get hot fast and can burn your fingers. If the amp has an even number of output tubes.... it has a classic "push pull" power section and needs to have one tube on each side of the transformer to function properly. Be sure to note which tubes are where so the amp sounds like it's supposed to after the tube swaps. Hopefully the sockets are marked for the tubes. Like Mike said, power tubes can go at any time due to the voltage on the plate and grids, and the current through them. They do get beat up. It's not as common (in my experience) to have preamp tubes go bad but they can, and do on occasion. I've never had a tube amp go bad where it needed a tech to repair it, it has always been tubes since they are the most fragile part of the amp. I don't think I have had a preamp tube fail... other than to become microphonic to the point where it was feeding back at higher gain settings. Good luck....
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/18 16:47:06
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Mesh I have a Mesa Boogie Blue Angel amp that I'd like to get serviced (possible tubes needing replaced etc...) as I've never had it done (ever) since buying it brand new. I haven't used it in years and the last time I tried to power it on (last summer), the fuse(s) kept blowing. when i needed my boogie serviced, i contacted boogie directly to find out who was an 'authorized' repairman in the area.... the guy i found, was very knowledgeable, very nice, very quick, and very cheap.
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/18 16:56:03
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mesh, you have a unique amp there.. before i would sell it, i'd run it clean and fresh, and then decide...... if i were you, and i could find a repair guy i trusted, i'd have him go over the whole thing.... check the caps, look for any cold solder joints, see if everything is in spec, and then clean it up, and re-tube it... experiment with the different sides of the amp, the el84 side, and the 6v6 side.... try 12at7's in the V2, V3 and V5 positions..... is this a combo, or a head? i like heads, for the ability to change out the speakers and cabs at will, plus it's easier to portage. i know there is a 4x10 version, i'd at least put it into a 1x12, 2x12 or 4x12 cab to see what THAT does for the sound.
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2013/06/18 20:06:30
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I don't know where you are but I know a GREAT tech in Indiana. He goes by Admiral Ballsy online but if you are in that area I can give you his real name. I am in the south but I sent him my CVR (Vibrolux), he swapped the tubes for the better, added Iwith my permission) a switch to the back panel that adds/removes a negative feedback loop, made it where it only has reverb on channel 2 which makes the verb much deeper and adds a bit of extra gain to channel 1. It was very good work. About GC... it is like any other business, they may have a good tech or may not. When MARS was in business the Marietta store had a really good luthier. I am in the exterminating business and it is the same thing... the company is whoever the tech is. Some are great, some don't know what they are doing. I know someone else in the midwest from online, known him for years and I think he does good work. In the PNW, Wolfe at Wolfetone pickups would know who is good. He is a good guy. Good luck with it... Julien
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jbow
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/18 20:07:49
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batsbrew
Mesh I have a Mesa Boogie Blue Angel amp that I'd like to get serviced (possible tubes needing replaced etc...) as I've never had it done (ever) since buying it brand new. I haven't used it in years and the last time I tried to power it on (last summer), the fuse(s) kept blowing. when i needed my boogie serviced, i contacted boogie directly to find out who was an 'authorized' repairman in the area.... the guy i found, was very knowledgeable, very nice, very quick, and very cheap.
I didn't see this post but it is very good advice. IMO. J
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/18 20:53:06
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Ditto on Bat's advice. I'd think long and hard before getting rid of a nice Boogie...... I paid $550 for my Studio and have been offered twice that much for it. I thanked them for the compliment and turned the offer down. Last time I looked the new small Boogs were selling for over $1000 in GC. I try to stay out of music stores..... it's much too hard to resist buying some new gear which I have to try and explain to my wife.......
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Re: Local guitar & amp shops or go to Guitar Center??
2013/06/18 21:42:32
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Boogies are excellent amps. I hadn't heard of the Blue Angel, so I just looked it up. Looks like a nice little rig.
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