Things I am absolutely depending on:
 

• Screensets
• Meter pre/post
• Drum maps
• Mute groups
• Fader touch
• Being able to snap to triplets

 

+1 on loving X2a.  Every program has nuances and takes a bit to get used to.
 
+1000 on loving the user forum -- this forum alone makes Sonar awesome.  I don't post much but I ALWAYS find solutions to my problems, or get quick responses when I do post.  It's like having tech support sitting next to me all the time.  I would never even cross my mind to change.

Daylaa
Some of you, not all, are forgetting that for some, including me, Sonar is completely un usable. People who leave do it publicly in a desperate attempt to feel heard. Cake are completely silent. We have spent money, time, blood sweat and tears trying to sift through the endless possibilities of what could be causing the issues. We have tried. If sonar works for you, you're lucky. Be graceful with your good fortune and thankful. Spare a thought for those of us who feel cheated, alone, drained, angry and powerless and keep your smug opinions to yourselves. Shame on you.

If its that bad why not post in a thread what the problem is?  You say have spent lots of money? Where have you spent it, on what?
 
Then I think it is also important to know that Sonar X2 does work.
 
I'm reminded how I began building my latest computer.  The first thing I did was find out what hardware gave the least trouble to those on this forum. I kept notes. I read way too many reviews and then assembled the parts.  
 
 

I've had a pretty easy time of it. There are Pro Channel issues that are well documented, but nothing fatal to my work flow. I love the PC actually and when you add in FX chains it's a pretty awesome setup. I had ADK built my computer. They did the install on Win 7 and Sonar, and they picked the interface. Most problems are hardware or Windows related I would think.

I’m also loving X2a on my w8 machine
 
But if I could get it to work properly on my Atari ST1040 then  I’d be over the moon 

If you're having DAW problems, I feel bad for you son
- I got 99 problems but da DAW ain't one!

Daylaa

John
 
If its that bad why not post in a thread what the problem is?  You say have spent lots of money? Where have you spent it, on what?
 
Then I think it is also important to know that Sonar X2 does work.
 
I'm reminded how I began building my latest computer.  The first thing I did was find out what hardware gave the least trouble to those on this forum. I kept notes. I read way too many reviews and then assembled the parts.  
 

John, I'm surprised a Platinum member like yourself hasn't already spotted the threads I've started and contributed to over the last 3 months with all of my Sonar issues. And Jlien X - my PC is a custom built Audio PC with Sonar X2 already installed. Forgive me for trusting Cakewalk. So much hostility! I hope you remember what attitude you guys have decided to take towards people like me when YOU experience the same calibre of difficulties. I hope people don't mock you or kick you when you're down. 
 
And for the record - I've not left Sonar. I've simply put it in the background until it gets updated. I've gone back to the stability of Home Studio 7. It's like paradise in comparison. I don't want to start a war here - I think it's a good thing that so many people CAN make Sonar work. Just don't be 'bad winners'. There are people on here who feel really crappy about having thrown money they barely own down the drain. Don't call them 'whiners'. 

 
Well, the hostile attitude came from YOU. I was just a mirror. You should have explained your situation clearly if you wanted nice replies. Don’t expect everyone to read your thread. Don’t say things like “Shame on you” when the problem could be due to your own fault. You use a custom built PC with X2 already installed? How about X2a? Update your signature block. Who sold you the PC and guaranteed stable performance of X2? Before buying the product did you check if the seller offers after-sales support? Checked their refund policy, too? What do you mean by CW are complete silent? You sent them email and got no reply or are you talking about their response on this forum? This is a user forum so they don’t HAVE to show up. And who are this “we” in your first post? Did they also buy a custom built PC and the seller disappeared after they sold it? I think most of the “we” purchased and installed X2 themselves, and if the 30-day free trial worked fine the copy they bought should work fine, too.

Daylaa

John
 
If its that bad why not post in a thread what the problem is?  You say have spent lots of money? Where have you spent it, on what?
 
Then I think it is also important to know that Sonar X2 does work.
 
I'm reminded how I began building my latest computer.  The first thing I did was find out what hardware gave the least trouble to those on this forum. I kept notes. I read way too many reviews and then assembled the parts.  
 

John, I'm surprised a Platinum member like yourself hasn't already spotted the threads I've started and contributed to over the last 3 months with all of my Sonar issues. And Jlien X - my PC is a custom built Audio PC with Sonar X2 already installed. Forgive me for trusting Cakewalk. So much hostility! I hope you remember what attitude you guys have decided to take towards people like me when YOU experience the same calibre of difficulties. I hope people don't mock you or kick you when you're down. 
 
And for the record - I've not left Sonar. I've simply put it in the background until it gets updated. I've gone back to the stability of Home Studio 7. It's like paradise in comparison. I don't want to start a war here - I think it's a good thing that so many people CAN make Sonar work. Just don't be 'bad winners'. There are people on here who feel really crappy about having thrown money they barely own down the drain. Don't call them 'whiners'. 

 
The reason I took up your post to answer is because this thread is about people enjoying X2. There are plenty of threads that are not looking at it that way. 
 
It seems that when ever anyone posts something good someone feels the need to post the opposite. Over time that becomes a tiresome thing for many of us.
 
Also I thought your post was rude.
 
If you have tried to fix you problems on this forum by posting them good for you. But keep in mind we are just users like yourself. We are not tech support though we do have a good track record in helping. 
 
I hope you get your problems solved and can join us in liking how well X2 does its job.  

Dalaa wrote:
I'm gonna duck out of this thread. I apologise, You're probably right, I shouldn't have posted here in the first place. Like I said before, I wasnt referring to everyone, just a minority. Peace out.

 
Good !


And the next time you should think about that before.
 
Have fun
 
X2 is awesome!

doncolga
Just installed the upgrade to X2 and so far everything is working.  Really smooth and snappy.  Hooray!

Are you talking about the upgrade from X2 to X2a? Why did you wait so long to upgrade? It's been out sine last year IIRC.

Jlien X

Daylaa
We have spent money, time, blood sweat and tears trying to sift through the endless possibilities of what could be causing the issues. We have tried. If sonar works for you, you're lucky.

Anyone who didn't try the 30-day free trial before buying or upgrading to the product should blame himself. :-)

Maybe Daylaa could have toned down his angst a bit in this thread,but I feel his anger(as I had an impossible time with Acoustica Mixcraft 6 & had no choice but to throw in the towel) and to be fair,I did try the X2 Producer trial and had no problems...but when I tried the Studio X2 and X2a versions,I began to have issues.
The demo and paid versions are very different from each other(especially given the fact that your only option for a demo,is specifically the Producer version) & I bought the Studio version & then updated to X2a.
 
I realize that my own inexperience with Sonar is a factor with my particular issues,but then again..DAW's like Reason & Presonus S1 will run smoothly on ANY computer and if you stress out your CPU by running a heavy load on these DAW's,the worst that will happen,is that you hear a few pops & crackles,but they will never crash.

Jlien X

Daylaa
We have spent money, time, blood sweat and tears trying to sift through the endless possibilities of what could be causing the issues. We have tried. If sonar works for you, you're lucky.

Anyone who didn't try the 30-day free trial before buying or upgrading to the product should blame himself. :-)

Maybe Daylaa could have toned down his angst a bit in this thread,but I feel his anger(as I had an impossible time with Acoustica Mixcraft 6 & had no choice but to throw in the towel) and to be fair,I did try the X2 Producer trial and had no problems...but when I tried the Studio X2 and X2a versions,I began to have issues.
The demo and paid versions are very different from each other(especially given the fact that your only option for a demo,is specifically the Producer version) & I bought the Studio version & then updated to X2a.
 
I realize that my own inexperience with Sonar is a factor with my particular issues,but then again..DAW's like Reason & Presonus S1 will run smoothly on ANY computer and if you stress out your CPU by running a heavy load on these DAW's,the worst that will happen,is that you hear a few pops & crackles,but they will never crash.

Jlien X

Daylaa
We have spent money, time, blood sweat and tears trying to sift through the endless possibilities of what could be causing the issues. We have tried. If sonar works for you, you're lucky.

Anyone who didn't try the 30-day free trial before buying or upgrading to the product should blame himself. :-)

Maybe Daylaa could have toned down his angst a bit in this thread,but I feel his anger(as I had an impossible time with Acoustica Mixcraft 6 & had no choice but to throw in the towel) and to be fair,I did try the X2 Producer trial and had no problems...but when I tried the Studio X2 and X2a versions,I began to have issues.
The demo and paid versions are very different from each other(especially given the fact that your only option for a demo,is specifically the Producer version) & I bought the Studio version & then updated to X2a.
 
I realize that my own inexperience with Sonar is a factor with my particular issues,but then again..DAW's like Reason & Presonus S1 will run smoothly on ANY computer and if you stress out your CPU by running a heavy load on these DAW's,the worst that will happen,is that you hear a few pops & crackles,but they will never crash.

Jlien X

Daylaa

John
 

 
Who sold you the PC and guaranteed stable performance of X2? Before buying the product did you check if the seller offers after-sales support? Checked their refund policy, too? What do you mean by CW are complete silent? You sent them email and got no reply or are you talking about their response on this forum? This is a user forum so they don’t HAVE to show up. And who are this “we” in your first post? Did they also buy a custom built PC and the seller disappeared after they sold it? I think most of the “we” purchased and installed X2 themselves, and if the 30-day free trial worked fine the copy they bought should work fine, too.

Before I begin this reply,I just want to apologize for the mess of duplicate posts,as my initial hit of the submit button didn't seem to be going through,& as a result,I repeatedly clicked on said button,in an effort to make it go through.
 
@Jlien X,
 
Did you happen to notice Daylaa's computer specs?First of all,Rain PC's are specifically designed for DAW use & he has one with majorly robust power,so it can't be a hardware issue.
You should be made aware as well,that the companies who are truly dedicated to providing 5 star customer service,do in fact,become involved in the forums...which is the case with Presonus and Acoustica(they don't always have solutions)..but then,some companies don't spare their bankroll to hire the most experienced employees.
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Well,enough about bugs and such and onward with the topic at hand....despite my current debacles,I really love the layout of Sonar and one of my favorite features thus far,is the window configuration presets...brilliant!
Though I don't especially like Rapture or Dimension...I do overall,think that the sound libraries are very usable,in contrast to what was included in my $400 Presonus S1 DAW and the fact I only paid $100 for Sonar StudioX2,is a superb deal..especially so,since Sonar supports video.
 
I think once I make it over the few hurdles I have in my way,I believe Sonar will grow on me in a major league way. 
 

elwoodblues1969 
@Jlien X,
 
Did you happen to notice Daylaa's computer specs?First of all,Rain PC's are specifically designed for DAW use & he has one with majorly robust power,so it can't be a hardware issue.
You should be made aware as well,that the companies who are truly dedicated to providing 5 star customer service,do in fact,become involved in the forums...which is the case with Presonus and Acoustica(they don't always have solutions)..but then,some companies don't spare their bankroll to hire the most experienced employees.

 
Well, first, although Rain Computers may be well-known where you are, it is not popular at all here so it didn’t help me a bit. Yet I googled it a little before posting and knew it was a custom built PC but that was all I knew and had no idea how and by whom his PC was sold, that's why I asked him in the post. He could have answered what you explained but he instead chose to apologize, which was nice.
 
I think if you have an issue and if you want to fix it, you should contact tech support or whoever responsible for support. You can post your issues here but it's not tech support so even if you can't solve the problems you shouldn't bash the product and rant.
 
As for the demo, I mentioned it because he and many others who claim Sonar doesn't work use the Producer version. If the Essential/Studio version doesn't work as advertised, you have the right to rant (although I don't). Of course, Producer users too can complain if it doesn't work as it’s supposed to, since it's not possible to check everything in 30 days. But the issues he reported in his recent thread (http://forum.cakewalk.com...m2855381.aspx#2863139) and the claims of many Sonar haters I recently witnessed in other forums (KVR and Studio One) are about basic things like drop outs, latency, which you can check within 30 days.
 
About Sonar and S1, I think a lot of users don’t realize that these daws are different products and used by different types of users. In short, S1 is a simpler, smoother and more stable daw where Sonar is more feature-packed. Users who don’t need all these features in Sonar might be very happy with S1, but in my case, features like Inline PRV, screensets, and the flexible grouping features, etc. etc. are quite important and also S1 is missing very basic things like the MIDI panic button and the pause button (and….if you visit their FR forum now you can see my humble request for the [X] button to close the current project). So even though Sonar is not as smooth and stable as S1, I’m more and more using X2 these days. It’s just that different users have different needs and Sonar can’t be S1, and S1 can’t be Sonar, either (yet).
 
Finally, are you saying that CW should provide better services and bakers should chime in their user forums a lot like PreSonus does? Let me tell you my personal experiences. When I started using S1 I sent a few email inquiries, and got no reply at all. I’ve been checking S1 forums quite often and have posted a number of times in the general discussion forum, FR forum, etc. but I personally have never seen them chiming in the threads I engaged in, but that’s maybe because I don’t check all of S1 forums (they have several S1 forums and I suggested combining them into one or two forums, but no response from them). Also, I have never seen them conduct a user survey. I’ve seen bakers chiming in this forum many times and one of them even sent to me a PM when they conducted a survey for Producer users recently and asked for my opinions about X2 Essential that I use (this is because I commented in the survey thread that they should also listen to Studio/Essential users’ opinions). So, to me, PreSonus is much more “silent.”
 
Anyway, I think this thread is supposed to be a positive one about X2, so I hope there’ll be no more unnecessary criticism or Ryan will chime in and lock the thread once again.