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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/20 22:56:39 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BassDaddy 2016/01/21 08:46:53
I like IK Products...

The company...not so much...


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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/20 23:58:19 (permalink)
We sure like your company, L-man.

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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/21 00:22:33 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/01/21 07:28:40
Remember children...this software shows you that the sum is greater than the parts and allows you to get from one point in space and time to another. It allows you to take your project, which sounds one way, and make it sound another way...by simply TURNING KNOBS!!!!!!

Let's have no more of this petty denigration. This is a well respected mastering engineer we are speaking of. Did you not see him in the video demo actually TURNING GIANT KNOBS???? Are you oblivious to the obvious? This product will exist ON YOUR DESKTOP!!!! You will be ABLE TO SEE IT!!! And turn an emulation of THE VERY SAME KNOBS!!!! Making your sound ACTUALLY CHANGE IN SOME MEANINGFUL WAY!!!

I ask you, who here does not want their sound to change in some meaningful way???


WHO?

That's what I thought. So I assume the answer is obvious...GET BIGGER KNOBS!!!

And then TURN THEM!!!!!!

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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/21 08:47:14 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/01/21 09:37:58
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I like IK Products...

The company...not so much...


Since when?

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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/21 08:50:45 (permalink)
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Remember children...this software shows you that the sum is greater than the parts and allows you to get from one point in space and time to another. It allows you to take your project, which sounds one way, and make it sound another way...by simply TURNING KNOBS!!!!!!

Let's have no more of this petty denigration. This is a well respected mastering engineer we are speaking of. Did you not see him in the video demo actually TURNING GIANT KNOBS???? Are you oblivious to the obvious? This product will exist ON YOUR DESKTOP!!!! You will be ABLE TO SEE IT!!! And turn an emulation of THE VERY SAME KNOBS!!!! Making your sound ACTUALLY CHANGE IN SOME MEANINGFUL WAY!!!

I ask you, who here does not want their sound to change in some meaningful way???


WHO?

That's what I thought. So I assume the answer is obvious...GET BIGGER KNOBS!!!
 


And then TURN THEM!!!!!!

Maybe this should have been in that Dolly Parton fred.

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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/21 09:37:19 (permalink)
Better leave Fred out of there.

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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/21 09:38:27 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BassDaddy 2016/01/23 15:17:36
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Remember children...this software shows you that the sum is greater than the parts and allows you to get from one point in space and time to another. It allows you to take your project, which sounds one way, and make it sound another way...by simply TURNING KNOBS!!!!!!

Let's have no more of this petty denigration. This is a well respected mastering engineer we are speaking of. Did you not see him in the video demo actually TURNING GIANT KNOBS???? Are you oblivious to the obvious? This product will exist ON YOUR DESKTOP!!!! You will be ABLE TO SEE IT!!! And turn an emulation of THE VERY SAME KNOBS!!!! Making your sound ACTUALLY CHANGE IN SOME MEANINGFUL WAY!!!

I ask you, who here does not want their sound to change in some meaningful way???


WHO?

That's what I thought. So I assume the answer is obvious...GET BIGGER KNOBS!!!
 


And then TURN THEM!!!!!!

Maybe this should have been in that Dolly Parton fred.



Talk about large Knobs...


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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/21 10:18:31 (permalink)
This ginger is going places too.

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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/21 16:20:48 (permalink)
If anyone in this thread is seriously trying to minimize Gavin's mastering skills, you may not have taken a look at (or listen to the work in) his credits.  Maybe I misread or it was sideswiping him to take a crack at IK but Gavin's a top engineer with an amazing set of credits (same with Reuben from Lurssen Mastering) so if anybody is seriously doubting Gavin's abilities you may want to take a look at his credits and a listen to some of his work.  And he was deeply involved in this project, not just lending his name to it.
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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/21 16:32:12 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/01/21 18:11:51
I don't think anyone here would question Lurssen's expertise or his involvement with the IK Mastering project, Peter.
This "Ginger and Fred" thread is just one of CW forum's peculiar niceties.

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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/21 16:53:13 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/01/21 18:12:01
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I don't think anyone here would question Lurssen's expertise or his involvement with the IK Mastering project, Peter.
This "Ginger and Fred" thread is just one of CW forum's peculiar niceties.

And that is why we have a Euro Goober Lawyer with a retainer. I mean on retainer.

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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/21 18:25:15 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BassDaddy 2016/01/21 23:30:40
No retainer for the Father of Braces!

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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/21 18:29:10 (permalink)
There are some iPad "mastering" apps already out there, I have one, that I barely use. I have taken a lot of my Sonar-based stuff and ported it into the iPad for live performance using Cubase, and it's really not bad at all, IMO. As for this software from IK, I downloaded the free version and took a look. There seems to be no way to get any stuff from Cubasis to the program, it allows importing files from iTunes library, etc. but that's not what I want to do. I can mixdown to .wav  on from cubasis, but even AudioShare, Audio Copy, didn't seem to have any way to interact with the Lurssen software. Also, it does not appear to be Audiobus compatible, and that is probably a deal-breaker for me, unless they are planning on it soon, and/or will use IAA (also not supported yet, it seems, not sure), or the new equivalent of VST on iPad, the Audio Units. Seems it only would interact with GarageBand for now, and I don't feel that program is even in the same universe as Cubasis.

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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/21 18:40:01 (permalink)
@thepianist53,
 
Thank You for the quick review. This answers several questions for me and I think I may just watch this product for now.
 
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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/21 21:29:06 (permalink)
As I said in my initial post Peter, I actually admire Gavin and his mastering techniques a great deal. I've always considered him one of the best...and still do. But, I'm sorry...and this may be just my opinion (though I doubt it)...the pseudo philosophical tripe he spouts in your/his video is beyond eye rollingly-bull hockey coughingly-cringe worthy. This is a perfect example of the old adage that warns of meeting your so called idols in person...while they still might possess great talents...they might as easily be pretentious dimwits. YMMV.

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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/22 09:46:13 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Skyline_UK 2016/01/23 05:29:58
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If anyone in this thread is seriously trying to minimize Gavin's mastering skills, you may not have taken a look at (or listen to the work in) his credits.  Maybe I misread or it was sideswiping him to take a crack at IK but Gavin's a top engineer with an amazing set of credits (same with Reuben from Lurssen Mastering) so if anybody is seriously doubting Gavin's abilities you may want to take a look at his credits and a listen to some of his work.  And he was deeply involved in this project, not just lending his name to it.


No need to resort to a strawman argument to defend the concept of a simplified process informed by experienced practitioners. 
Whatever skepticism you encounter here is entirely about the paradigm you're trying to sell. It has nothing to do with the qualifications of those involved in its design.
I visited your booth yesterday, and saw plenty of young people obviously digging the concept of a studio you can carry in a backpack. Thats  just not this crowd. 
Don't  be discouraged. It took me 20 years to accept the notion that a computer was an acceptable substitute for a tape recorder.


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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/22 13:53:15 (permalink)
So is there any video of this iPad app and audio from this?  I looked but couldn't find anything.  I don't have an iPad so I can't try their demo but I am curious about this.
 
The desktop version might be interesting if it included the five hardware units as T-Racks modules, but I'm guessing IK would think each of those is another $150 plugin.
 
Still seems strange that every web article and video interview with Gavin seems to be about how analog is the only domain to master audio in, are there no world class mastering engineers that work in-the-box?

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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/22 15:36:03 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby rtucker55 2016/01/22 16:16:21
Bitsy and Bapuji, can we expect some more Namm floor buzz?

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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/22 16:59:38 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Fleer 2016/01/22 19:35:59
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Bitsy and Bapuji, can we expect some more Namm floor buzz?


Yeah,
 
Did you get a Demo of Indiginus Instruments RENEGADE?

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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/22 17:40:58 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby rtucker55 2016/01/22 17:56:01
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Bitsy and Bapuji, can we expect some more Namm floor buzz?


Yeah,
 
Did you get a Demo of Indiginus Instruments RENEGADE?


We NEED a Bitsy & Bapuji THREAD... come on, B&B... start your NAMM B&B thread for consolidated reporting purposes...

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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/22 18:13:23 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Fleer 2016/01/22 19:36:15
I will not respond to "bitsy", sorry.


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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/22 18:23:21 (permalink)
First celebrity sighting was yesterday - Stevie Wonder. I was only 3 ft away but the phalanx of bodyguards made a photo difficult. I have 4 shots that may or may not include his bald head poking out of the crowd. Won't  know  until I get home and can zoom in on a larger screen. He's kinda short and his posse enormous.
 
The crowds make me feel claustrophobic, I can't  imagine  what it feels like to be blind and endure that chaos. Much denser human herds than any previous show I've  attended.  Tried to hear Graham Nash last night but could only get about 100' from the stage. My buddy got right up front & said it sounded great. Maybe better luck tonight.
 


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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/22 18:39:23 (permalink)
So did you get to the Indiginus Instruments booth 7708? Were they showing RENEGADE?

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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/22 19:11:42 (permalink)
Might you at least tell us what the Renegade is Mr. Tucker?

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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/22 19:26:17 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BassDaddy 2016/01/23 15:20:04
I will not respond to "Mr. Tucker", sorry. 
 
Seriously, 'RENEGADE' is the New electric guitar soon to be released by Indiginus.  I am hoping it is a similar gem as Renaxxance is.
 
Note: That is Tucker with a 'T'
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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/22 19:26:19 (permalink)
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I will not respond to "bitsy", sorry.


bitsy!

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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/22 19:28:52 (permalink)
Edith says: let him watch a bit of tube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOfI48IWESo
 

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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/22 20:32:00 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Fleer 2016/01/22 21:38:45
Fleer... that's friggin' priceless!
 
to be clear:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOfI48IWESo
post edited by Vastman - 2016/01/22 23:50:30

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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/23 00:04:02 (permalink)
How's about "itsy bitsy spider"?? That's got a nice ring to it. No...that's not quite right. What about Bit-O-Honey?? That's pretty sweet.

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Re: Lurssen Mastering Console - New unique approach to mastering on iPad, Mac & PC 2016/01/23 01:45:10 (permalink)
"itsy bitsy bapy"?  Bit and Bap? 

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