• SONAR
  • Feature Requests + Improvements [New 29/3/2018] (p.50)
2018/05/25 22:41:56
abacab
dubdisciple
This never worked with Gibson, Roland or original owners,but....
Cakewalk needs an integrated sampler to compete. Not having one is basically ignoring huge chunk of Hip-Hop, Pop, EDM and even some modern rock acts. To be perfectly clear, one can create any genre in any DAW. Whether that creation is practical and intuitive is another thing altogether. Even with Cakewalk being free, it is a hard sell to youth because the hoops I have to jump through to demo modern pop and Hip-Hop are too much.

The people of this forum represent Cakewalks faithful, traditional user base which was not enough to keep cakewalk competitive. Repeating mistakes of past will likely see similar results. The foundation of cakewalk is solid, but needs a major overhaul when it comes to modern music production. Someone like Anderton can come up with clever solutions, but most DAWs have these things implemented out of the box. I can recreate over half of current top 40 songs using FL Studio, Logic, Ableton, Reason, Bitwig and Studio One out the box with no major workarounds. I can’t do that with Cakewalk or even SPLAT. The process requires major third party assistance. I have used Geist paired with Sonar but even that has limitations and again, requires additional purchase without being truly integrated. I have little experience with Ableton and over 20 years with Cakewalk and it was easier for me to show a kid what he wanted to do with the former.

I’m not talking full Kontakt or other advanced product. FL Studio has the simplest integrated sampler with little deep editing ability beyond pitch and envelope but it is effective and super quick. Sample One and Simpler are nowhere near the level of EXS24 but just work. The fact that Sonar has a step Sequencer gives it a foot in the door but falls far short without useful sampler. For now I literally cannot give product away.



It looks like PreSonus just doubled down by improving their pop production features in Studio One 4:
Sample One XT sampler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96OMEiuHLHM
Impact XT drum sampler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhKnUOKLCMY
and a new integrated pattern sequencer.
2018/05/26 01:36:22
abacab
ChrisBlack
AAF support please? That would help tons importing and working with files from other DAWs.




Yup, I would agree that is probably an important feature to include.  PreSonus just added support for AAF to Studio One 4.  PreSonus Studio One 4 Webcast—AAF and Song Import Data https://youtu.be/qJme1qag-CU
 
Advanced Authoring Format
https://en.wikipedia.org/...anced_Authoring_Format
 
AAF is an enhancement to the older OMF format.  https://en.wikipedia.org/..._Framework_Interchange
 
That means that leading DAWs such as Pro Tools, Logic, and Studio One, as well as video editors from Adobe, Apple, and Avid, etc., can exchange files.  Cakewalk should adopt this format in order to remain an option for professional digital post production tools, and smooth the workflow between professional DAWs.
2018/05/26 22:43:22
e-AudioProductions
Hello,
 
Nice to see this improvements idea. Thank you for this.
 
What would be great is a feature with faster or slower playback. Windows Media Player has this option with very good playback speed options. This would help a lot. 
One more thing is a more customizable control bar. For example when editing if you want to toggle the feature Ripple Edit On/Off you need to click the drop down menu of options and go from there. A customizable control bar with any command would be perfect. You could add a button and assign it to what you want. The button would light color when the command is on and turn off when off. Just like hat standard ones in the basic control bar.
 
Thanks for your time!
2018/05/28 10:21:02
CookiesnMilk
Unless if I am missing something, it would be great to have a global snap to scale feature as well. When you edit midi, it can be quite tedious having to change all midi tracks snap settings.
2018/05/28 11:28:07
mariogag
Keep in memory which midi hw is connected to which port. Right now if you don't on your devices in the same sequence, or leave it on all rhe time, you have to re'configure the port assignement.

What should happen is that once device A is assign to port 1 with instrument A assign to it it stays like that no matter what. If it is off the device could simply be "greyed" and/or be unchecked until the device is turned on.

For me who doesn't keep all its hw on all the time the cuurrent dynamic approach is un-productive.

I haceCbB installed and running.

Mario
2018/05/29 11:24:16
parco
Bug - A files naming bug in 24.4.1.28 [2018.04], with Asian languages names other than English, as I'd ever posted on this thread: http://forum.cakewalk.com/A-files-naming-bug-in-244128-201804-with-Asian-languages-names-other-than-English-m3757994.aspx
Feature - More toolbars in the keyboard lane dialogs respectively, not just the toolbars in the main window.
Feature - Event inspector in the keyboard lane dialogs respectively, not just the one in the main window. More editable parameters in this keyboard dialog event inspector, for all notes, CC commands and automation commands, and support group modification for multiple selected.
Feature - Support more group editing and batch process for multiple selected.
Feature - Individual regular wave editor popup dialogs (not loop construction view), some kind similar to the one in cubase or Sound Forge, with basic audio editing functions like fade, auto trim/crop, channel convertor, DC offset, mute, offline FX apply, etc.......
Feature - Fader automations selective base on dB or linear.
Feature - more editing functions and toolbars in event list and tempo editor, especially batch/group editing like group modifying and compression/expansion.
Feature - Draw-able new midi clips without midi recording.
Feature - optimize the screen for small resolution monitors, notebooks and tablets.
Feature - A new more stable and flexible export output range selector, like loop selector or punch selector, which is differentiated from the general selection, never be cancelled by click other places, and auto export all tracks if no tracks are selected.
Feature - Quick selective upsampling multiples for FX plugins and instrument plugins like 2x, 4x, 8x, 16x, etc......
Feature - Also apply dithering when the export or bounce bit depth target is 24bit. 
Feature - integrate with Izotope MBit+ dithering and Izotope 64bit SRC resampling if possible.
Feature - support encoding AAC and the open format Opus exporting if possible (maybe migrate the export encoding engine to FFmpeg which support MP3, AAC, Opus, wma, ALAC, real audio, FLAC, Ogg, DSD, etc.......? Even the freeware Foobar2000 uses FFmpeg...)
2018/05/29 21:09:12
e-AudioProductions
MAJOR FIX NEEDED FOR THE WAY SONAR SEES MIDI DEVICES AND CONTROLLERS
 
Sonar identifies MIDI devices by names. So it is confused by several of them with the same name. This means that if you have two identical devices you can only use one at a time as Sonar sees them as one.
The problem is known for years where as other DAWs have fixed this way before.
 
For example I have two Behringer X Touch Mini devices (control surfaces) When both connected Cakewalk doesn't see them as two different devices. It can only use one at a time. When I try them in Studio One though they are both seen as two different devices and both work as separate devices. However cakewalk in the midi devices sees only one of them. Sometimes it sees two midi inputs of xtouch mini but thinks it is the same one. But always sees only one midi output. So you can't use both of them in Sonar. But in Studio One, Cubase and ProTools you can use them both.
 
An update/fix for all people working with controllers is needed. And for some people it can be a reason to use other DAWs 
 
2018/05/30 18:57:41
RexRed
I am trying to capture Cakewalk by Bandlab in OBS Studio so I can post tutorials on Youtube and OBS studio cannot properly recognize the Cakewalk .exe. I try and have OBS Studio capture just the Cakewalk .exe and it only sees it in a tiny window. When I try and enlarge that window the mouse goes all haywire. OBS Studio will capture Cakewalk by capturing one of my displays @4k (I have two displays). Capturing only the .exe window is a better method than capturing the display but it does not work. Perhaps you could look into this. I am sure I am not the only person who will try and capture Cakewalk by Bandlab for posting Youtube tutorials and OBS studio seems to be the best (free) industry standard program for doing this. 
2018/05/30 20:41:03
oeai
Changing Audio Device Profiler. my ASIO supports 100ms and with WASAPI or KS driver i can get 300+, so with high load i have to switch and each time it gets list of devices and supported modes, while i'm not changing devices at all.
So i propose that this function was called once and all setup was stored in .xml somewhere, so if new hardware will be added, then a button "find new hardware" should work fine.
also a quick button to switch from ASIO to WDM/KS or WASAPI/e without changing all other settings (cards, freq, bits) would be nice i guess, maybe this can be as a quick bar menu module with +buffer size change in.
2018/05/30 21:41:07
JoseC.
oeai
Changing Audio Device Profiler. my ASIO supports 100ms and with WASAPI or KS driver i can get 300+, so with high load i have to switch and each time it gets list of devices and supported modes, while i'm not changing devices at all.
So i propose that this function was called once and all setup was stored in .xml somewhere, so if new hardware will be added, then a button "find new hardware" should work fine.
also a quick button to switch from ASIO to WDM/KS or WASAPI/e without changing all other settings (cards, freq, bits) would be nice i guess, maybe this can be as a quick bar menu module with +buffer size change in.


I think that you have not really understood how this works. If your soundcard supports ASIO all you need to do is open its control panel and increase the buffer. There are no other settings to change, and there should be no need to go switching back and forth between WDM or WASAPI and ASIO. If you, for some reason, decide to use those, all you need to do is run Wave Profiler once, and then use the latency slider from within CbB, IIRC.
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