• SONAR
  • [Solved] Return sorting method Default All Plugins! (p.4)
2016/09/04 11:38:29
Anderton
It works for me, and does exactly what I expect. I don't understand what kind of organization you want that the PIM can't do. I'd like to help, but you have yet to describe what "does not work properly and allows a lot of mistakes." Meanwhile, check out Week #78 in Friday's Tip of the Week. While some of it is obsolete because the new method allows for what I was doing, you still might find it helpful.
2016/09/04 14:28:06
Bristol_Jonesey
Vyacheslav
Anderton
Vyacheslav
Thank you. I know. But I do not want to do sort again. I just want to work in their work environment.

 VST3 is going to replace VST2 eventually, and Steinberg decided that categorization is the way to go. Cakewalk cannot change the VST3 spec. However, Cakewalk can - and did - provide the tools to arrange the plug-ins any way you want.

Handy way to me now is not present - need me how to sort simply deleted.
I realize you don't want to sort again, but if you spend an hour (or probably less) creating the exact layout you want in the Plug-In Manager and save it, then you can call it up any time. I did that one afternoon many years ago, and aside from adding to it periodically, it's still what I use for most of my projects.

I repeat... - Sonar PluginManager does not work properly and allows a lot of mistakes.


You need to be a LOT more specific.
 
What mistakes does it make? Why do you say it doesn't work properly?
2016/09/05 04:47:32
Vyacheslav
You need to be a LOT more specific.
What mistakes does it make? Why do you say it doesn't work properly?

You have read the previous topics? I have already written...
Unfortunately, I did not speak very well in English. And I find it hard to describe all the details. But one of the glitches it is the loss of some plugins from the user menu -  I see plugin(s) in Sonar PluginManager, and on the Menu - not.. And nothing is not corrected. I'm tired of fighting with this glitch. So I installed the plug-ins are not a default, and to the desired me folder. This order Sonar sees correctly and in my opinion. 
Now Sonar does not see my folders properly. In new sorting methods not see separately VST2 and VST3 - they are now jumbled.

2016/09/05 11:59:20
Anderton
Vyacheslav
But one of the glitches it is the loss of some plugins from the user menu -  I see plugin(s) in Sonar PluginManager, and on the Menu - not.

 
Never seen that happen, unless I forget to save :) Perhaps some plug-ins are proprietary to other programs, which means they'll show up buy SONAR can't load them?
 

Now Sonar does not see my folders properly. In new sorting methods not see separately VST2 and VST3 - they are now jumbled.

 
I truly believe the PIM is capable of creating whatever layout you want. It certainly has for me over the past several years. 
2016/09/06 04:22:23
Vyacheslav
Never seen that happen

Never saw? Look

unless I forget to save :)

Not funny.
Perhaps some plug-ins are proprietary to other programs, which means they'll show up buy SONAR can't load them?

Oh really?
2016/09/06 09:50:21
Anderton
First of all, thanks for making the video. Now I see what you're talking about. However, it's still not what I see. I'm not trying to be sarcastic or rude, I simply could not experience the problem you seem to have, so I couldn't understand what you were talking about.
 
I made a .pgl layout with only three folders: VST3, VST2, and DirectX. Then I populated each folder with those FX types, created some sub-folders within those folders, and saved the layout as "Test." When I go to insert a plug-in, if I call up the "Test" layout, I get those folders whether using the Browser or using the Insert menu in the rack:
 

 
Unless I'm really misunderstanding, that's what you want to see, yes?
 
 
2016/09/06 10:13:54
scook
This problem was reported during the 22.8 Early Access Release period. I recall being able to replicate the problem then. The current release is 22.8.0.30. I cannot replicate the problem using the current release.
 
edit: found the old report http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3464071
2016/09/06 10:36:42
pwalpwal
i don't see a "Default All Plugins" option in the right-click/plugin layouts menu?

2016/09/06 10:50:14
scook
"Default All Plugins" is not part of the current release. That is not the only issue with the video.
2016/09/06 11:10:07
Anderton
I may have found the issue the OP is experiencing. If there are no plug-ins in the VST2 folder, it will not show up when you call up the layout. 
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